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Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:09 pm
by Prokorov
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Starters:
** Brooklyn **
James Harden
Jevon Carter
Kevin Durant
Bruce Brown
Blake Griffin

** Dubs **
Steph Curry
Jordan Poole
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Kevin Looney


Injuries:
Kyrie Irving - OUT (Funnelling money to Adams campaign fund)
Nic Claxton - OUT (illness)
Joe Harris - OUT (Ankle)
Paul Milsap - OUT (Birth of Child)
Klay Thompson - OUT (Achilles)
James Wiseman - OUT (Knee)

Frenemies

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Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:42 pm
by Prokorov
First game back home is like the last game of a road trip with the travel back home. Dubs just lost to the hornets. obviously playing well but havent beat a ton of good teams. i like our chances even without Joe. new rules help gaurding curry around screens. KD abused draymond last year. they arent big but they play hard so even without size i expect rebounding to be an issue

if Harden plays well, we should win.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:19 pm
by ecuhus1981
There's no place like home.

After a long road trip, I'm sure our guys are glad to be back on Brooklyn. This one should be an highly competitive game in terms of strategy, though neither team has their full roster available.

Jevon will get the start on place of the recently injured Harris, even though none of us are particularly thrilled about Carter's level or style of play when in an expanded role. At minimum, JC allows us to have two point-of-attack defenders in the 1st unit, along with Bruce. In this way, both Curry and Poole see 94-foot defensive attention. Patty is clearly the better player, but he doesn't offer that level of ballhawkiness. Plus, his offensive synergy with LaMarcus buoys the entire 2nd unit, and we need that balance to prevent momentum shifts from the opposition.

Like always, we need James to be James, in order to beat a tough opponent. KD has been on a mission all season, and I think he'll be particularly motivated tonight. Not because he's facing his former team, but because he wants to establish himself as the leading candidate for MVP. The best way to do that is to outduel the main challenger. Beyond that, our guys know their roles. We don't need anyone to play above their heads, just because we are down a couple of key players. Do your job to the best of your ability, and trust in your teammates. We are enough; attempting to do too much is a recipe for disaster.

Some would say the Dubs are our toughest matchup to date; they own the league's best record, the best +/- and they are the deep stats darlings of the early season. They certainly have the stars, the athletes and the shooters to boat race us, if we fail to bring our best.

The secret sauce to their success is their bench. Iggy looks rejuvenated in the Bay, playmaking and hustling like the good ol days. Payton II is a defensive ace and open court highlight reel. Lee, Porter and Bjelica can't stop hitting 3's. They rebound well, they don't turn it over and they even heat up passing lanes. If we allow their bench to pummel us with body blows, Steph is the master of re-entering the game with a knockout punch.

Of course, the general rule for bench units is that they play better at home than away. Golden State has only had 4 road games so far (compared to our 8), and 2 of those were in the state of California. I would expect some regression to the mean here.

Also, their strength of schedule through 13 games has been low. The two LA teams sound good on paper, but neither have been very good. Still, the wider margin of victories, and the fact that they've only lost by 3 and 4 points suggests that they're pretty legit.

Vegas and 538 have us as 3 to 3.5 point favorites, despite Joe's absence. I'll take their word for it, though keep in mind: GSW were never known to be the most gracious of losers. BCB's better be ready to fight for this W. Go Brooklyn!

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:28 pm
by Prokorov
It is crazy that Harden is "struggling" yet is posting:

20/10/8 on 60 TS%

I think we sometimes lose sight of how great our stars are relative to other players. the "struggling" version if harden is better then any pre-bgi 3 nets player since prime jason kidd/VC.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:31 pm
by MrDollarBills
If we can pull out a win here tonight, we can rest KD versus the Cavs tomorrow because all of their good players are injured (Mobley and Allen are out).

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:32 pm
by MrDollarBills
Prokorov wrote:It is crazy that Harden is "struggling" yet is posting:

20/10/8 on 60 TS%

I think we sometimes lose sight of how great our stars are relative to other players. the "struggling" version if harden is better then any pre-bgi 3 nets player since prime jason kidd/VC.



Imagine struggling your way to multiple triple doubles?

the narrative around Harden is so tired. Dude is elite

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:43 pm
by Prokorov
MrDollarBills wrote:If we can pull out a win here tonight, we can rest KD versus the Cavs tomorrow because all of their good players are injured (Mobley and Allen are out).


Sexton has been out too.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:13 pm
by Jay555
Let’s get this W.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:37 pm
by ducler
Read on Twitter

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:22 pm
by Karate Diop
The Warriors have done a good job meshing older and younger players together which has resulted with them playing with a lot of energy on both ends of the court... I wish Nash and Co. would do something similar, as there are dividends to be received down the line if they were to do so...

Will take a disciplined 48 minutes of defense to win as the younger Warriors players are hungry.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:24 pm
by Karate Diop
Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:If we can pull out a win here tonight, we can rest KD versus the Cavs tomorrow because all of their good players are injured (Mobley and Allen are out).


Sexton has been out too.


I think he was only talking about their "good" players :wink:

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:50 pm
by Paradise
This game tonight is a true definition of a barometer test. Especially, for guarding the three point line and pick and roll.

I’m so sad I won’t be able to watch this game with this new night time work schedule I’m on.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:53 pm
by Prokorov
Paradise wrote:This game tonight is a true definition of a barometer test. Especially, for guarding the three point line and pick and roll.

I’m so sad I won’t be able to watch this game with this new night time work schedule I’m on.


we are #1 in the NBA guarding the three this year. but obviously, curry is a different animal. they did great on Trae.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:30 am
by Stone

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:30 am
by MrDollarBills
Karate Diop wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:If we can pull out a win here tonight, we can rest KD versus the Cavs tomorrow because all of their good players are injured (Mobley and Allen are out).


Sexton has been out too.


I think he was only talking about their "good" players :wink:


Correct, although Sexton tore us last year

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:33 am
by ecuhus1981
Paradise wrote:This game tonight is a true definition of a barometer test. Especially, for guarding the three point line and pick and roll.

I’m so sad I won’t be able to watch this game with this new night time work schedule I’m on.

If Kerr hits us with a steady diet of pick and roll, that would be a shock. They rarely ever run it, especially now that Wiseman is out injured. But yes, we need to be assignment-sound when guarding at the 3pt line. Never, EVER tag or stunt to stop a dribble drive. Just let them get the layup, instead of a likely weak side corner 3.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:36 am
by Stone
Sounds like a lot of Steph/Warriors fans at the Clays tonight.

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:54 am
by MrDollarBills
TNT sucks Warrior balls. I wish YES was covering the game

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:54 am
by Jay555
How did Steph make those shots? WTF...

Re: Nets v. Warriors | 11.16.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT/YES

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:55 am
by HardenGoat
This is like a playoff game. Their defense so far has been stifling and Curry is on fire as usual. I’m praying our bench shows up cause that will decide the game.