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ecuhus1981 wrote:Here is a realistic deal that closes the chapter on HWSNBN in Brooklyn, and maximizes our franchise from the present to the future. It works starting December 15th, when new contracts are tradeable:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7495059

https://fanspo.com/nba/s/nets/trades/CjnQRW9YCF21uQ/fo-fo-fo-nets-and-pelicans

!rving, Carter, Johnson and Claxton

for

Graham, Satoransky, Hayes, Louzada, 22SAC2nd, 22CLE2nd, 24LAL1st, 24MIL1st

The money works, and creates a new $35mil TPE that we could use this season or next, to relieve a cap-strapped team and add a different disgruntled star.

Devonté is a facsimile of the role we're missing, and allows Patty to slide back into his natural fit as a 2nd unit assassin. Tomas is a versatile wing. Jaxson could fill Nic's role, and Didi is a 15th man who we could keep for energy, or cut off a prominent veteran took a buyout and wanted to come here.

What do you think? Rip off the band-aid, wave goodbye to the sugarplum Dynasty dreams, and create a cohesive contender with options to improve.

MrDollarBills wrote:

ecuhus1981 wrote:Here is a realistic deal that closes the chapter on HWSNBN in Brooklyn, and maximizes our franchise from the present to the future. It works starting December 15th, when new contracts are tradeable:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7495059

https://fanspo.com/nba/s/nets/trades/CjnQRW9YCF21uQ/fo-fo-fo-nets-and-pelicans

!rving, Carter, Johnson and Claxton

for

Graham, Satoransky, Hayes, Louzada, 22SAC2nd, 22CLE2nd, 24LAL1st, 24MIL1st

The money works, and creates a new $35mil TPE that we could use this season or next, to relieve a cap-strapped team and add a different disgruntled star.

Devonté is a facsimile of the role we're missing, and allows Patty to slide back into his natural fit as a 2nd unit assassin. Tomas is a versatile wing. Jaxson could fill Nic's role, and Didi is a 15th man who we could keep for energy, or cut off a prominent veteran took a buyout and wanted to come here.

What do you think? Rip off the band-aid, wave goodbye to the sugarplum Dynasty dreams, and create a cohesive contender with options to improve.

I dunno. I would rather see what Indiana is looking for since they are about to blow it all up.

HardenGoat wrote:I also think NOLA is the only legitimate destination for HWSNBN. Fire up the trade machine and go for Turner and another guard with Indiana involved.

TheNetsFan wrote:

HardenGoat wrote:I also think NOLA is the only legitimate destination for HWSNBN. Fire up the trade machine and go for Turner and another guard with Indiana involved.

NOLA was trying to make a play for pretty every PG this past off-season. It's still their biggest need. While not fair value in normal situations, a combo of Graham + Turner/LeVert for Kyrie at least provides rotational depth. Indy might dump LeVert for free if it returns an expiring. They'd probably seek value for Turner. The question would be how willing would NOLA be to trade value for Kyrie.

Prokorov wrote:that 35M TPE is useless. its not going to bring back talent. we would have nothing to add to the salary to give value for a star to be absorbed in that. maybe you get liek kevin love or some other washed up over priced has been?

this is not the deal you give up kyrie for.

your better off rolling the dice that the plant base vaccine is available by playoff time.

ecuhus1981 wrote:

Prokorov wrote:that 35M TPE is useless. its not going to bring back talent. we would have nothing to add to the salary to give value for a star to be absorbed in that. maybe you get liek kevin love or some other washed up over priced has been?

this is not the deal you give up kyrie for.

your better off rolling the dice that the plant base vaccine is available by playoff time.

Of all the reasons to decline this deal, I did not expect "that $35mil TPE is useless". Though you're a very smart dude, your hubris is naive realism.

If I were Marks, and I had secured a $35mil TPE, I would target Siakam, Hayward, McCollum and Wiggins. For various reasons, those solid vets could be available. Beyond that, we cannot predict what star player will demand a trade, but that TPE would facilitate a deal for almost anyone.




By the way, you don't really believe that the plant based vaccine will get HWSNBN to return, do you? If you do, I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn....

ecuhus1981 wrote:

Prokorov wrote:that 35M TPE is useless. its not going to bring back talent. we would have nothing to add to the salary to give value for a star to be absorbed in that. maybe you get liek kevin love or some other washed up over priced has been?

this is not the deal you give up kyrie for.

your better off rolling the dice that the plant base vaccine is available by playoff time.

Of all the reasons to decline this deal, I did not expect "that $35mil TPE is useless". Though you're a very smart dude, your hubris is naive realism.

If I were Marks, and I had secured a $35mil TPE, I would target Siakam, Hayward, McCollum and Wiggins. For various reasons, those solid vets could be available. Beyond that, we cannot predict what star player will demand a trade, but that TPE would facilitate a deal for almost anyone.




By the way, you don't really believe that the plant based vaccine will get HWSNBN to return, do you? If you do, I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn....

ecuhus1981 wrote:We're receiving 2 1sts and 2 2nds in this deal, that's more than enough sweetener for a future deal of this magnitude. Plus, we may want to include one of the players in this deal, for that future deal as part of the value exchange. There are a million varieties and iterations that you do not seem willing to acknowledge.

Prokorov wrote:

ecuhus1981 wrote:We're receiving 2 1sts and 2 2nds in this deal, that's more than enough sweetener for a future deal of this magnitude. Plus, we may want to include one of the players in this deal, for that future deal as part of the value exchange. There are a million varieties and iterations that you do not seem willing to acknowledge.

all those assets plus claxton/cam i dont think gets you close to any of the names you mentioned.

TheNetsFan wrote:

ecuhus1981 wrote:

Prokorov wrote:that 35M TPE is useless. its not going to bring back talent. we would have nothing to add to the salary to give value for a star to be absorbed in that. maybe you get liek kevin love or some other washed up over priced has been?

this is not the deal you give up kyrie for.

your better off rolling the dice that the plant base vaccine is available by playoff time.

Of all the reasons to decline this deal, I did not expect "that $35mil TPE is useless". Though you're a very smart dude, your hubris is naive realism.

If I were Marks, and I had secured a $35mil TPE, I would target Siakam, Hayward, McCollum and Wiggins. For various reasons, those solid vets could be available. Beyond that, we cannot predict what star player will demand a trade, but that TPE would facilitate a deal for almost anyone.




By the way, you don't really believe that the plant based vaccine will get HWSNBN to return, do you? If you do, I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn....

100%. There is no reason to believe that he'll be at the front of the line to receive a plant based vaccine. His research will tell him that he needs a longer track record of observation to understand side effects or some other lame excuse.

gigantes wrote:I don't even know what the point of a "plant-based vaccine" is anyway in terms of CV19. From what I gather, plant-based vaccines are typically developed and used, you know... for plants.

Meanwhile, your basic vaccine works by introducing dead cells of the pathogen in order to create an effective immune response. Worth mentioning that a virus isn't an animal, but it isn't a plant, either.

I do see something called "CoVLP" that presumably uses plant materials to produce "toxins or surface proteins" that have the desired vaccine effect, but also note that they seem significantly less-effective than standard models towards preventing CV19 infection.

Speaking as a vegetarian (who does cheat a bit, hah), it's embarrassing to me that vegetarians and vegans are willing to risk human life amidst a deadly pandemic, fooling around with alt meds in this case. This is neither the time nor case, you wackadoodles!

Also, getting back to the premise, hasn't Kyrie in fact said that he's not against vaccines in theory, it's that in this case he's being 'forced, against his will' to take it? I.e., the mandate?

gigantes wrote:I don't even know what the point of a "plant-based vaccine" is anyway in terms of CV19. From what I gather, plant-based vaccines are typically developed and used, you know... for plants.

Meanwhile, your basic vaccine works by introducing dead cells of the pathogen in order to create an effective immune response. Worth mentioning that a virus isn't an animal, but it isn't a plant, either.

I do see something called "CoVLP" that presumably uses plant materials to produce "toxins or surface proteins" that have the desired vaccine effect, but also note that they seem significantly less-effective than standard models towards preventing CV19 infection.

Speaking as a vegetarian (who does cheat a bit, hah), it's embarrassing to me that vegetarians and vegans are willing to risk human life amidst a deadly pandemic, fooling around with alt meds in this case. This is neither the time nor case, you wackadoodles!

Also, getting back to the premise, hasn't Kyrie in fact said that he's not against vaccines in theory, it's that in this case he's being 'forced, against his will' to take it? I.e., the mandate?