"I think one thing that happened at the trade deadline that I heard was that they were very close to a deal with Toronto that would have sent Claxton to Toronto for a first round pick and some protections on it," said Zach Lowe on his podcast. "I think their intention was to sort of refit the roster by maybe flipping that pick for another wing, another shooter. Robert Covington's name was mentioned. And sort of balance it out. That trade fell apart and Toronto went in another direction."
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So, the idea was to flip the 1st rounder from Toronto to the Clippers?
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Paradise wrote:So, the idea was to flip the 1st rounder from Toronto to the Clippers?"I think one thing that happened at the trade deadline that I heard was that they were very close to a deal with Toronto that would have sent Claxton to Toronto for a first round pick and some protections on it," said Zach Lowe on his podcast. "I think their intention was to sort of refit the roster by maybe flipping that pick for another wing, another shooter. Robert Covington's name was mentioned. And sort of balance it out. That trade fell apart and Toronto went in another direction."
I'm glad we didn't though, we need Claxton for teams that have elite PGs.
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MrDollarBills wrote:Paradise wrote:So, the idea was to flip the 1st rounder from Toronto to the Clippers?"I think one thing that happened at the trade deadline that I heard was that they were very close to a deal with Toronto that would have sent Claxton to Toronto for a first round pick and some protections on it," said Zach Lowe on his podcast. "I think their intention was to sort of refit the roster by maybe flipping that pick for another wing, another shooter. Robert Covington's name was mentioned. And sort of balance it out. That trade fell apart and Toronto went in another direction."
I'm glad we didn't though, we need Claxton for teams that have elite PGs.
Additionally, why did take until now for the Nets to realize that they should make a move for a versatile 3&D wing to help KD?
It feels like Marks kicked his legs up and relaxed after getting KD & Kyrie thinking “Job well done,” when he should’ve pressed a bit harder to finish the task by surrounding them with players who best complement their skills and can take the burden of doing other tasks (e.g. defending the opposition’s best player) off of their shoulders.
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NyCeEvO wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Paradise wrote:So, the idea was to flip the 1st rounder from Toronto to the Clippers?
I'm glad we didn't though, we need Claxton for teams that have elite PGs.
Additionally, why did take until now for the Nets to realize that they should make a move for a versatile 3&D wing to help KD?
It feels like Marks kicked his legs up and relaxed after getting KD & Kyrie thinking “Job well done,” when he should’ve pressed a bit harder to finish the task by surrounding them with players who best complement their skills and can take the burden of doing other tasks (e.g. defending the opposition’s best player) off of their shoulders.
I dont think thats the case... i think the teams that have those guy are good, those guys are rare, and those guy arent easy to get. like the offseason im sure if we could we would. like if you make a call asking about crowder, you get laughed at.
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Prokorov wrote:NyCeEvO wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
I'm glad we didn't though, we need Claxton for teams that have elite PGs.
Additionally, why did take until now for the Nets to realize that they should make a move for a versatile 3&D wing to help KD?
It feels like Marks kicked his legs up and relaxed after getting KD & Kyrie thinking “Job well done,” when he should’ve pressed a bit harder to finish the task by surrounding them with players who best complement their skills and can take the burden of doing other tasks (e.g. defending the opposition’s best player) off of their shoulders.
I dont think thats the case... i think the teams that have those guy are good, those guys are rare, and those guy arent easy to get. like the offseason im sure if we could we would. like if you make a call asking about crowder, you get laughed at.
I was referring to previous off-season, not so much mid-season deals.
I’m of the opinion that there are plenty of players we could’ve acquired relatively easily who are better than the likes of Bruce Brown and James Johnson, but Marks didn’t pursue them. KD clearly has tremendous pull. I don’t know why we haven’t utilized it to our advantage more often.
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Covington would have been a good add. But seems like it was a no go.
I don't think Claxton could bring much back. And he will be useful in the playoffs for sure.
I don't think Claxton could bring much back. And he will be useful in the playoffs for sure.
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What's been going on with Claxton this year? seems like there has been both some injury and mystery to his ability to become a consistent and rotational guy.
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NyCeEvO wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Paradise wrote:So, the idea was to flip the 1st rounder from Toronto to the Clippers?
I'm glad we didn't though, we need Claxton for teams that have elite PGs.
Additionally, why did take until now for the Nets to realize that they should make a move for a versatile 3&D wing to help KD?
It feels like Marks kicked his legs up and relaxed after getting KD & Kyrie thinking “Job well done,” when he should’ve pressed a bit harder to finish the task by surrounding them with players who best complement their skills and can take the burden of doing other tasks (e.g. defending the opposition’s best player) off of their shoulders.
It's not all Marks; don't blame him at all, he did his job by getting stars here and it's always on the star players, ala KD/Kyrie. Marks knew by getting those two, he wanted to go all in and build a superteam, hence he got Harden. You can blame the likes of Kyrie, Harden and yes even KD for all of the hoopla. It's not Marks fault Kyrie promised and then lied to him about eventually get the jab. It's not Marks fault that Harden/Kyrie promised to sign enabling him to prematurely make the comment they will all be signed, no this is on the players behind the scenes pulling the damn strings and Marks has to bear the brunt of it. If anything, Marks is doing a great job of handling all of their nonsense and reworking the roster around Kyrie's bull and Harden's quitting and KD's demands. Marks is the best GM in Nets history.
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I'm glad they didn't trade Claxton for a pick - he's the most active/athletic center they have and there could end up being a role for him. If he's on the floor with Simmons, KD, Kyrie he should get a lot of lobs and easy dunks. He may also be a towel waver, but even if that's the case I think he'd have enough value to bring back a 1st round pick in the offseason.
Maybe there was a good enough player out there worth the 1st round pick he could have brought back at the deadline, but im not really seeing it. maybe divincenzo? but id probably say no on Ibaka. Covington is a maybe but that would have had to happen pre-Harden trade so that was sort of an unresolvable timing issue.
at one point i saw deandre hunter rumors somewhere - that I would have been all about - and may be willing to trade the philly pick for him if Atlanta is looking to make a move at the draft. but remember all of the bigs are also up in the offseason and Claxton on the QO may be the most likely to be back.
Maybe there was a good enough player out there worth the 1st round pick he could have brought back at the deadline, but im not really seeing it. maybe divincenzo? but id probably say no on Ibaka. Covington is a maybe but that would have had to happen pre-Harden trade so that was sort of an unresolvable timing issue.
at one point i saw deandre hunter rumors somewhere - that I would have been all about - and may be willing to trade the philly pick for him if Atlanta is looking to make a move at the draft. but remember all of the bigs are also up in the offseason and Claxton on the QO may be the most likely to be back.
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Clax has been so injury prone so I can understand why we wanted to move him.
Getting Drummond is good insurance in case Clax goes down again.
Clax's primary strength is being able to switch and defend the PnR at a high level which should prove useful come playoffs time.
I think Clax/Drummond/LMA is a very solid C rotation. They all have different strengths which adds to our versatility.
Getting Drummond is good insurance in case Clax goes down again.
Clax's primary strength is being able to switch and defend the PnR at a high level which should prove useful come playoffs time.
I think Clax/Drummond/LMA is a very solid C rotation. They all have different strengths which adds to our versatility.
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Claud wrote:Clax has been so injury prone so I can understand why we wanted to move him.
Getting Drummond is good insurance in case Clax goes down again.
Clax's primary strength is being able to switch and defend the PnR at a high level which should prove useful come playoffs time.
I think Clax/Drummond/LMA is a very solid C rotation. They all have different strengths which adds to our versatility.
Claxton is a free agent. a first round pick for a 3 month rental of an injured claxton would be a great deal.
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Prokorov wrote:Claud wrote:Clax has been so injury prone so I can understand why we wanted to move him.
Getting Drummond is good insurance in case Clax goes down again.
Clax's primary strength is being able to switch and defend the PnR at a high level which should prove useful come playoffs time.
I think Clax/Drummond/LMA is a very solid C rotation. They all have different strengths which adds to our versatility.
Claxton is a free agent. a first round pick for a 3 month rental of an injured claxton would be a great deal.
Agreed but since it didnt go down, we at least have another piece to try to win in the playoffs.
We don't have another big as good as him when it comes to switching. Should prove useful at some point if LMA/Drummond struggle vs. a certain matchup.
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I like Clax and hope he stays long term but he's just been far too injury prone. As Prok, swapping Clax for a FRP would be a no brainer move. However, it's not the worst thing in the world that he is still on the roster for match-up reasons. I just hope he/Nash can keep him engaged and ready to play a role when needed.
Also going forward, there is no guarantee that LMA and Blake will be back next season. I can see the Nets keeping Clax if those guys retire/go elsewhere. He can obviously still be flipped for something after the season too...
Also going forward, there is no guarantee that LMA and Blake will be back next season. I can see the Nets keeping Clax if those guys retire/go elsewhere. He can obviously still be flipped for something after the season too...
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right they will likely qualify him. not a lot of teams have cap room. if he's mostly a towel waver the rest of the year there's a good chance nobody tries to poach him. a team may try to poach him if he plays and plays well - but isn't that the rub? If he plays and plays well isn't that preferable to a pick anyway?
if he plays great and helps the team win i dont mind competition for his services.
if he doesn't then he's likely back on the QO and a tradeable asset next year.
so the only reason to trade him for the pick was if the pick was going to be moved for a more useful player right away.
if he plays great and helps the team win i dont mind competition for his services.
if he doesn't then he's likely back on the QO and a tradeable asset next year.
so the only reason to trade him for the pick was if the pick was going to be moved for a more useful player right away.