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Round 1, Game 3 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) v Boston(2) @ 7:30 PM on ESPN/YES 

Post#1 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:29 pm

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Starters:
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Seth Curry
Kyrie Irving
Bruce Brown
Kevin Durant
Andre Drummond

** Celtics **
Marcus Smart
Jaylen Brown
Jason Tatum
Al Horford
Daniel Theis

Injuries:
Ben Simmons - OUT (Back)
Robert Williams III - OUT (Knee)


Obviously a must win. Need superstar performances from KD and Kyrie. Nash needs to not F us over

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Post#2 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:37 pm

Mark Jackson no. Ty Lue? Yes. He should have been the first one Marks called up.

KD and Kyrie wanted a hands off buddy/peer to let them do whatever they wanted. Now KD is being humiliated on the national stage and it doesn't look like anything will change the end result.

"We really don't need a coach".

Sure Kyrie.
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Post#3 » by cam24thomas » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:30 pm

Boston won't even be the clear favorite to win this series if we tie this at 2-2..... because these first 2 games have proven that we can win at Boston, even without KD shooting well.
So being down 0-2 is not a bad situation to be in, because we are favorite to win at home and level the series :wordyo:
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Post#4 » by GTR11 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:43 pm

1. Clown A Myth didn't say a damn word when Chauncey Billups got HC gig just because he's Dame's friend.

2. We see KD trying to Iso from top... we can take brooms out and start evaluating available options for HC spot.

3. Dre unplayable with all the switches they do. If Blake or LMA won't be getting min instead, chances will decrease significantly. He also shoots less than 50% from FT line. Thinking matching LMA vs Theis and Nic vs AL is best case scenario here.

4. Dragic has to play 35+ min from now on. I don't mind him coming from the bench, it's the min and closing games what matters. Either him or Kyrie has to initiate things. Watching KD turn the ball over has me flipping. He also literally quit last game.
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Post#5 » by GTR11 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:59 pm

Read on Twitter
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Any thoughts on him?

I only know that he has ties to Sean during San An days. Seemed to have very good relationship from what I heard few times.
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Post#6 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:50 pm

Gotta play fast and with purpose...

The ball needs to be brought up by Ky or Dragic or Brown... someone else to free up Durant to move around....

Dragic should be seeing a heavier dose of minutes in order to properly facilitate the ball movement, initiate the offense. That of course is contingent if we have an offense to execute.

Gotta play Blake or LMA... gotta do something different. I'd say Edwards too for his energy n hustle..... cuz what was the stupid point of dropping JJ then?

Drummond is not adding enough offensive impact, either figure to get him going or tell him, don't even try to be fancy or you're out.
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Post#7 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:52 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Any thoughts on him?

I only know that he has ties to Sean during San An days. Seemed to have very good relationship from what I heard few times.

some franchises man...

The guy had a constant 10 win improvement over the years:"Over the past three seasons, Borrego oversaw 10-game improvements for the Hornets year-over-year. Charlotte went from 23-42 in 2019-20 to 33-39 in 2020-21 to 43-39 this season."

wow.

I'll take him!
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CalamityX12 wrote:Gotta play fast and with purpose...

The ball needs to be brought up by Ky or Dragic or Brown... someone else to free up Durant to move around....

Dragic should be seeing a heavier dose of minutes in order to properly facilitate the ball movement, initiate the offense. That of course is contingent if we have an offense to execute.

Gotta play Blake or LMA... gotta do something different. I'd say Edwards too for his energy n hustle..... cuz what was the stupid point of dropping JJ then?

Drummond is not adding enough offensive impact, either figure to get him going or tell him, don't even try to be fancy or you're out.


I'd suggest, even with KD off ball, dont go to him as the primary option. run a kyrie pick and roll, some action for seth or kyrie iso. Durant has INSANE gravity even off ball. he creates a ton of space for those things. let his shots come secondary, in transition, and organically. Let him focus on being an elite defender.

when the mismatch comes or the ball finds him attack. he can still get 20 shots that way.

I mean, KD is better then Kyrie... but in half court offense kyris is one of the 3 best in the league himself. run kyrie as a first option until they adjust. they cant double both of them
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Post#9 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:15 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=fPBAMo1VoOnXhcNbKfHfcQ

Any thoughts on him?

I only know that he has ties to Sean during San An days. Seemed to have very good relationship from what I heard few times.

some franchises man...

The guy had a constant 10 win improvement over the years:"Over the past three seasons, Borrego oversaw 10-game improvements for the Hornets year-over-year. Charlotte went from 23-42 in 2019-20 to 33-39 in 2020-21 to 43-39 this season."

wow.

I'll take him!


I would take him in a heartbeat
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Post#10 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:16 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Gotta play fast and with purpose...

The ball needs to be brought up by Ky or Dragic or Brown... someone else to free up Durant to move around....

Dragic should be seeing a heavier dose of minutes in order to properly facilitate the ball movement, initiate the offense. That of course is contingent if we have an offense to execute.

Gotta play Blake or LMA... gotta do something different. I'd say Edwards too for his energy n hustle..... cuz what was the stupid point of dropping JJ then?

Drummond is not adding enough offensive impact, either figure to get him going or tell him, don't even try to be fancy or you're out.


I'd suggest, even with KD off ball, dont go to him as the primary option. run a kyrie pick and roll, some action for seth or kyrie iso. Durant has INSANE gravity even off ball. he creates a ton of space for those things. let his shots come secondary, in transition, and organically. Let him focus on being an elite defender.

when the mismatch comes or the ball finds him attack. he can still get 20 shots that way.

I mean, KD is better then Kyrie... but in half court offense kyris is one of the 3 best in the league himself. run kyrie as a first option until they adjust. they cant double both of them


The fact that we don't run any screen action with KD and Kyrie is just proof that Nash is really bad
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Post#11 » by cam24thomas » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:47 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Gotta play fast and with purpose...

The ball needs to be brought up by Ky or Dragic or Brown... someone else to free up Durant to move around....

Dragic should be seeing a heavier dose of minutes in order to properly facilitate the ball movement, initiate the offense. That of course is contingent if we have an offense to execute.

Gotta play Blake or LMA... gotta do something different. I'd say Edwards too for his energy n hustle..... cuz what was the stupid point of dropping JJ then?

Drummond is not adding enough offensive impact, either figure to get him going or tell him, don't even try to be fancy or you're out.


I'd suggest, even with KD off ball, dont go to him as the primary option. run a kyrie pick and roll, some action for seth or kyrie iso. Durant has INSANE gravity even off ball. he creates a ton of space for those things. let his shots come secondary, in transition, and organically. Let him focus on being an elite defender.

when the mismatch comes or the ball finds him attack. he can still get 20 shots that way.

I mean, KD is better then Kyrie... but in half court offense kyris is one of the 3 best in the league himself. run kyrie as a first option until they adjust. they cant double both of them

I agree, that's like KD's Golden State role, but I mean everyone was off-the-ball in GS offense, because the ball kept moving.
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Post#12 » by dWadeOwnzYou » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:07 pm

You guys will win this one easily. KD and kyie are due for a good game together for once. Book it.
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Post#13 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:15 pm

KD and KAI NEED to take more 3's. I know they are incredible mid-range shooters but Boston knows this and are loading up to their favorite spots. More 3's can help neutralize that and keep the ball movement from the 1st half going for the whole game!

Dragic needs to play 30+ mins while Ben is out. Less Drummond too

HORRIFIC LINEUP:
Durant, Irving,Drummond, Curry, Brown = 104.3(OFF) 116.7(DEF) -12.3(NET) in 34 mins!! EFG= 54% OPPFG=58% YUCK


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Durant, Dragic, Irving, Brown, Claxton = 100.0 (OFF) 87.5 (DEF) 12.5 (NET) in 6mins EFG= 55% OPPFG=43%
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Post#14 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:25 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:KD and KAI NEED to take more 3's. I know they are incredible mid-range shooters but Boston knows this and are loading up to their favorite spots. More 3's can help neutralize that and keep the ball movement from the 1st half going for the whole game!

Dragic needs to play 30+ mins while Ben is out. Less Drummond too

HORRIFIC LINEUP:
Durant, Irving,Drummond, Curry, Brown = 104.3(OFF) 116.7(DEF) -12.3(NET) in 34 mins!! EFG= 54% OPPFG=58% YUCK


MORE OF THIS:
Durant, Dragic, Irving, Brown, Claxton = 100.0 (OFF) 87.5 (DEF) 12.5 (NET) in 6mins EFG= 55% OPPFG=43%


too small of a sample to use O/D RTG. just look at kyrie. 1 super elite game 1 game you forgot he was even on the team.

Drummond needs to play. he was good game 2 and he draws alot of fouls and we need those extra possessions.Claxon is getting the majority of center minutes. we are fine at the C spot.

we need more dragic, maybe start him.
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Post#15 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:28 pm

Kyrie saying what we have all been thinking:

“It’s not all on Kev. I take accountability. Everybody on our team takes accountability,” Kyrie Irving said. “I’ve got to get him to his spots and make the game a lot easier. I believe I can do that with the assistance of my other coaches, having a game plan to attack this defense.”
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Post#16 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:54 pm

Prokorov wrote:Kyrie saying what we have all been thinking:

“It’s not all on Kev. I take accountability. Everybody on our team takes accountability,” Kyrie Irving said. “I’ve got to get him to his spots and make the game a lot easier. I believe I can do that with the assistance of my other coaches, having a game plan to attack this defense.”

same guy who 2 seasons ago said they(he n KD?) didn't need a coach?

the old stuff is coming back to bite his ass.....
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Post#17 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:03 pm

Prokorov wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:KD and KAI NEED to take more 3's. I know they are incredible mid-range shooters but Boston knows this and are loading up to their favorite spots. More 3's can help neutralize that and keep the ball movement from the 1st half going for the whole game!

Dragic needs to play 30+ mins while Ben is out. Less Drummond too

HORRIFIC LINEUP:
Durant, Irving,Drummond, Curry, Brown = 104.3(OFF) 116.7(DEF) -12.3(NET) in 34 mins!! EFG= 54% OPPFG=58% YUCK


MORE OF THIS:
Durant, Dragic, Irving, Brown, Claxton = 100.0 (OFF) 87.5 (DEF) 12.5 (NET) in 6mins EFG= 55% OPPFG=43%


too small of a sample to use O/D RTG. just look at kyrie. 1 super elite game 1 game you forgot he was even on the team.

Drummond needs to play. he was good game 2 and he draws alot of fouls and we need those extra possessions.Claxon is getting the majority of center minutes. we are fine at the C spot.

we need more dragic, maybe start him.


Playoff sample sizes are inherently small but that doesn't mean the stats is useless.. It also matches the eye test that the defense looks best with KD-Dragic-Clax-BB.

The starting lineup is clearly not working for long stretches. Drummond has 8! rebounds in 2 games(41 mins). His effort on the boards isn't there. He doesn't move the needle if he's not getting rebounds and easy paint pts. He's not even a lob threat like Clax is.

Yes, he can still get mins but he should be getting even less minutes than he is now.
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Post#18 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:13 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Kyrie saying what we have all been thinking:

“It’s not all on Kev. I take accountability. Everybody on our team takes accountability,” Kyrie Irving said. “I’ve got to get him to his spots and make the game a lot easier. I believe I can do that with the assistance of my other coaches, having a game plan to attack this defense.”

same guy who 2 seasons ago said they(he n KD?) didn't need a coach?

the old stuff is coming back to bite his ass.....


i think people took those comments way to literally. they also said in that same interview Kyrie needs 15 post touches a game and KD said he needs to run point. it was all tongue in cheek. even the coach part was "we dont need a coach" not "the team doesnt need a coach"
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Post#19 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:18 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:KD and KAI NEED to take more 3's. I know they are incredible mid-range shooters but Boston knows this and are loading up to their favorite spots. More 3's can help neutralize that and keep the ball movement from the 1st half going for the whole game!

Dragic needs to play 30+ mins while Ben is out. Less Drummond too

HORRIFIC LINEUP:
Durant, Irving,Drummond, Curry, Brown = 104.3(OFF) 116.7(DEF) -12.3(NET) in 34 mins!! EFG= 54% OPPFG=58% YUCK


MORE OF THIS:
Durant, Dragic, Irving, Brown, Claxton = 100.0 (OFF) 87.5 (DEF) 12.5 (NET) in 6mins EFG= 55% OPPFG=43%


too small of a sample to use O/D RTG. just look at kyrie. 1 super elite game 1 game you forgot he was even on the team.

Drummond needs to play. he was good game 2 and he draws alot of fouls and we need those extra possessions.Claxon is getting the majority of center minutes. we are fine at the C spot.

we need more dragic, maybe start him.


Playoff sample sizes are inherently small but that doesn't mean the stats is useless.. It also matches the eye test that the defense looks best with KD-Dragic-Clax-BB.

The starting lineup is clearly not working for long stretches. Drummond has 8! rebounds in 2 games(41 mins). His effort on the boards isn't there. He doesn't move the needle if he's not getting rebounds and easy paint pts. He's not even a lob threat like Clax is.

Yes, he can still get mins but he should be getting even less minutes than he is now.


He played really good defense in game 2 and drew 4 fouls. he had 3 steals, several deflections and 2 blocks.
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Post#20 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:22 pm

Thank god. this was a year overdue

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