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Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or retire
It is clear to me that the Nets aren't getting the offer they are demanding for this cowardly f*ck, and I totally understand because gutting your team to acquire Durant defeats the purpose of even trading for him.
So, it's time to have a come to Jesus moment with Durant. He can either act like a professional and honor his contract until the right offer is made, or he can retire.
There's zero in between. We actually have a good team on paper as is, which makes his trade request even more ludicrous, so either he can try to win here with what we have or he can end his career at age 34.
Call his bluff.
So, it's time to have a come to Jesus moment with Durant. He can either act like a professional and honor his contract until the right offer is made, or he can retire.
There's zero in between. We actually have a good team on paper as is, which makes his trade request even more ludicrous, so either he can try to win here with what we have or he can end his career at age 34.
Call his bluff.
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If it comes to it, I think he'd play and compete. He's a hooper through and through. This is also a contender on paper right now with more talent than any team he would be going to.
If Kyrie is on the roster I think he'd play too. He's a FA next offseason which means this is a very important season for him if he wants another max going forward. Sitting out or creating a distraction wouldn't make sense, which is why I wouldn't trade him just because.
If Kyrie is on the roster I think he'd play too. He's a FA next offseason which means this is a very important season for him if he wants another max going forward. Sitting out or creating a distraction wouldn't make sense, which is why I wouldn't trade him just because.
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I think everyone here and in the organization is tired of the drama and the nonsense.
I was happy to run it back if KD was committed to the team but if he's not, I'm done with it. We don't have a chance to do anything with an unhappy Kyrie and KD. It's just a waste of time. Trade them. Bringing him into camp is an injury risk and could just hurt his trade value.
Marks needs to do his job and get a good trade out of this. We got a pretty light return for Harden considering Philly thought they were turning into a potential championship contender. If he can't get a monster return for an MVP level player, he should be fired. We don't need to play these games.
I was happy to run it back if KD was committed to the team but if he's not, I'm done with it. We don't have a chance to do anything with an unhappy Kyrie and KD. It's just a waste of time. Trade them. Bringing him into camp is an injury risk and could just hurt his trade value.
Marks needs to do his job and get a good trade out of this. We got a pretty light return for Harden considering Philly thought they were turning into a potential championship contender. If he can't get a monster return for an MVP level player, he should be fired. We don't need to play these games.
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MGrand15 wrote:I think everyone here and in the organization is tired of the drama and the nonsense.
I was happy to run it back if KD was committed to the team but if he's not, I'm done with it. We don't have a chance to do anything with an unhappy Kyrie and KD. It's just a waste of time. Trade them. Bringing him into camp is an injury risk and could just hurt his trade value.
Marks needs to do his job and get a good trade out of this. We got a pretty light return for Harden considering Philly thought they were turning into a potential championship contender. If he can't get a monster return for an MVP level player, he should be fired. We don't need to play these games.
If there isn't anything compelling then you keep both and play out the season imo
The Nets have a contender on paper. Durant wants to win. Kyrie wants the max. Irrespective of feelings, the season playing out well with no drama would be in alignment with the best interests of everyone involved.
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MGrand15 wrote:I think everyone here and in the organization is tired of the drama and the nonsense.
I was happy to run it back if KD was committed to the team but if he's not, I'm done with it. We don't have a chance to do anything with an unhappy Kyrie and KD. It's just a waste of time. Trade them. Bringing him into camp is an injury risk and could just hurt his trade value.
Marks needs to do his job and get a good trade out of this. We got a pretty light return for Harden considering Philly thought they were turning into a potential championship contender. If he can't get a monster return for an MVP level player, he should be fired. We don't need to play these games.
The deal probably isn't out there.
I'm all for jettisoning Irving and I'd do it for next to nothing. With Durant however, if the price isn't being met then he needs to stfu and play. This team right now on paper even without Kyrie is loaded.
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I'm bouncing between the two options because there's good sense to both. I think what I'd do at this point (as Marks) is to tell Durant "we need to talk" and explain the situation and see if there's any feedback & re-evaluation on his end.
Maybe Durant could stomach playing for the team with the idea that Marks will continue to look for the right deal, with the idea that a better one might arise near the trade deadline. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie gets back on board.
Also, if the team's really cooking by that point, they both might decide to just make a full go of it and try one more time for a title, then revisit this stuff again next offseason.
It's frustrating that it's come to this, and the injury risks are real, but whadyagonnado?
Maybe Durant could stomach playing for the team with the idea that Marks will continue to look for the right deal, with the idea that a better one might arise near the trade deadline. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie gets back on board.
Also, if the team's really cooking by that point, they both might decide to just make a full go of it and try one more time for a title, then revisit this stuff again next offseason.
It's frustrating that it's come to this, and the injury risks are real, but whadyagonnado?
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He has a four year deal. Simply tell him (in kinder words) that if he wants to play another game in the NBA before he turns 38, it will have to be as a Brooklyn Net. Durant won't sit out, fake injury, or dog it. I just can't see it.
And perhaps he will realize that his best chance to win and best chance to save his legacy is with Brooklyn.
Irving/Mills
Harris/Curry/Thomas
Simmons/O'Neal
Durant/Warren
Claxton/Sharpe
It's missing a real center, but that is an excellent team on paper.
And perhaps he will realize that his best chance to win and best chance to save his legacy is with Brooklyn.
Irving/Mills
Harris/Curry/Thomas
Simmons/O'Neal
Durant/Warren
Claxton/Sharpe
It's missing a real center, but that is an excellent team on paper.
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Its a slap to the face that the franchise put his people, his coach and his offensive ideals and still wants to be traded....
like, you had a hand in this mess....
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As for Kyrie, it's clear he wants another big contract, and the only way for him to get that will be to play. If the Nets keep him, he will have no choice but to be a good soldier if he really does want that deal. Nobody will offer him a sizable deal if he sits out or continues to be a disruptor for yet another season.
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Leaning more and more towards calling KD's bluff and trading Kyrie for more pieces.
**** what they want.
We did everything they wanted for the last 3 season and we got jack **** to show for it.(Even gave DJ 40 **** million $)
Unless we get exactly what we want, no trade.
**** what they want.
We did everything they wanted for the last 3 season and we got jack **** to show for it.(Even gave DJ 40 **** million $)
Unless we get exactly what we want, no trade.
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Educator wrote:As for Kyrie, it's clear he wants another big contract, and the only way for him to get that will be to play. If the Nets keep him, he will have no choice but to be a good soldier if he really does want that deal. Nobody will offer him a sizable deal if he sits out or continues to be a disruptor for yet another season.
For sure. If the Lakers want him then pony up your remaining draft picks unprotected. Otherwise Kyrie can just sit and rot
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I took a lot of heat in this forum over the past few years for insisting Kyrie was a cancer.
His behavior since day one, just not showing up whenever he didn't feel like it, was absolutely toxic. Forever finding reasons NOT TO PLAY, like he was the only guy in the NBA who had a social conscience, when PLENTY OF GUYS DO, BUT THEY STILL SHOWED UP TO PLAY, and I knew he was slowly tearing this team apart ... so NONE OF THIS surprises me.
Just like I wasn't surprised when James Harden was the first to refuse an extension and said get me the hell out of here.
I hate to say I told you so, but I've been saying it for years, Kyrie is the worst thing that ever happened to the Nets.
I even had that in my signature for most of Kyrie's tenure, from the moment he started his little disappearing acts.
NONE OF THIS would be happening if it wasn't for Kyrie.
Heck, if he wasn't such a selfish narcissist we would have won a championship with this team Marks put together.
Kyrie blew the whole thing to hell. Now you see why I never stopped blasting him, despite the heat I received.
His behavior since day one, just not showing up whenever he didn't feel like it, was absolutely toxic. Forever finding reasons NOT TO PLAY, like he was the only guy in the NBA who had a social conscience, when PLENTY OF GUYS DO, BUT THEY STILL SHOWED UP TO PLAY, and I knew he was slowly tearing this team apart ... so NONE OF THIS surprises me.
Just like I wasn't surprised when James Harden was the first to refuse an extension and said get me the hell out of here.
I hate to say I told you so, but I've been saying it for years, Kyrie is the worst thing that ever happened to the Nets.
I even had that in my signature for most of Kyrie's tenure, from the moment he started his little disappearing acts.
NONE OF THIS would be happening if it wasn't for Kyrie.
Heck, if he wasn't such a selfish narcissist we would have won a championship with this team Marks put together.
Kyrie blew the whole thing to hell. Now you see why I never stopped blasting him, despite the heat I received.
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Whiskey Slick wrote:I took a lot of heat in this forum over the past few years for insisting Kyrie was a cancer.
His behavior since day one, just not showing up whenever he didn't feel like it, was absolutely toxic. Forever finding reasons NOT TO PLAY, like he was the only guy in the NBA who had a social conscience, when PLENTY OF GUYS DO, BUT THEY STILL SHOWED UP TO PLAY, and I knew he was slowly tearing this team apart ... so NONE OF THIS surprises me. ...
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the signings, and then in the very first day or two of training camp, Kyrie was asked to wear some kind of bio-tracking device that would help the performance team better-craft each player's ideal workouts & routines, and Kyrie just straight-up refused to cooperate according to the ND article three years ago. When I read that, I just tilted my head up, drew my palm back and... *kersmack!*
If Durant wasn't so completely out of touch, he might better understand that Nets fans almost immediately put aside their distrust of Irving, and fully welcomed him. BRK and its fans gave him a third chance to find a home and an ideal space, and he had to work hard to screw that all up. Now KD's acting like the aggrieved party on behalf of his friend, but it's such a clueless, pathetic, cowardly move on his part. A true betrayal, in effect.
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gigantes wrote:Whiskey Slick wrote:I took a lot of heat in this forum over the past few years for insisting Kyrie was a cancer.
His behavior since day one, just not showing up whenever he didn't feel like it, was absolutely toxic. Forever finding reasons NOT TO PLAY, like he was the only guy in the NBA who had a social conscience, when PLENTY OF GUYS DO, BUT THEY STILL SHOWED UP TO PLAY, and I knew he was slowly tearing this team apart ... so NONE OF THIS surprises me. ...
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the signings, and then in the very first day or two of training camp, Kyrie was asked to wear some kind of bio-tracking device that would help the performance team better-craft each player's ideal workouts & routines, and Kyrie just straight-up refused to cooperate according to the ND article three years ago. When I read that, I just tilted my head up, drew my palm back and... *kersmack!*
If Durant wasn't so completely out of touch, he might better understand that Nets fans almost immediately put aside their distrust of Irving, and fully welcomed him. BRK and its fans gave him a third chance to find a home and an ideal space, and he had to work hard to screw that all up. Now KD's acting like the aggrieved party on behalf of his friend, but it's such a clueless, pathetic, cowardly move on his part. A true betrayal, in effect.
It's childish as f*ck
Kyrie f*cked his own money up by behaving like a lunatic. Durant trying to white knight for Kyrie to be paid is beyond the pale and it shows that Durant clearly lives in a bubble outside of reality as well.
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As a fan of a team who's forum has produced a record amount of posts in a period of just three days, I've come to the conclusion after meditating on this that its best for the league short and long term that the Nets do precisely what you suggest.Claud wrote:Leaning more and more towards calling KD's bluff and trading Kyrie for more pieces.
**** what they want.
We did everything they wanted for the last 3 season and we got jack **** to show for it.(Even gave DJ 40 **** million $)
Unless we get exactly what we want, no trade.
Its not good for the image of the NBA that teams let this go on. And as much as I want KD, he's a tainted player who has an unpredictable nature that just rubs you the wrong way.
I'm genuinely sorry you guys are going through this but at some point you have to stand your ground and simply refuse (in the most polite and cordial way anyone can).
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It's childish as f*ck
Kyrie f*cked his own money up by behaving like a lunatic. Durant trying to white knight for Kyrie to be paid is beyond the pale and it shows that Durant clearly lives in a bubble outside of reality as well.
Agreed 100%
How can he expect the Nets to give Kyrie a max extension after he bailed on this team for more games than he played?
KD is delusional and I've lost a lot of respect for him over this. NOT OVER ASKING FOR A TRADE, but the reason (Kyrie, who betrayed him too!), even if it's only part of the reason, and I used to hold KD in the highest regard as a player and person.
There's NO WAY IN HELL he should expect the Nets to offer Kyrie a max extension after all the money he has STOLEN from the Nets, and the degree to which he totally undermined this teams chances of winning a championship (or two).
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With how the roster is shaping up, this is the best time to try again. When things don't work out well in the end, then we trade both and start over.
Both the Nets as well as KD/Ky will benefit greatly by running it back one last time. For the Nets, this would probably be our last opportunity to do so (assuming both bolts next season). For 7-11, this is the best place to get their rings playing together as teammates (reason why they decided to join forces in the first place).
It's absolutely a no-brainer!
Both the Nets as well as KD/Ky will benefit greatly by running it back one last time. For the Nets, this would probably be our last opportunity to do so (assuming both bolts next season). For 7-11, this is the best place to get their rings playing together as teammates (reason why they decided to join forces in the first place).
It's absolutely a no-brainer!
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I really like how the Roster is shaping up and thinking if both stay the Nets are looking good.
Then I start thinking the locker room with these two guy's still in it is a big problem.
Also on the floor I envision them being more and more selfish.
Make the Trade Marks , the team will be fine without these cancers.
Also well done on the last few signings.
Then I start thinking the locker room with these two guy's still in it is a big problem.
Also on the floor I envision them being more and more selfish.
Make the Trade Marks , the team will be fine without these cancers.
Also well done on the last few signings.
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Rastas wrote:I really like how the Roster is shaping up and thinking if both stay the Nets are looking good.
Then I start thinking the locker room with these two guy's still in it is a big problem.
Also on the floor I envision them being more and more selfish.
Make the Trade Marks , the team will be fine without these cancers.
Also well done on the last few signings.
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The idea is to keep them happy and show them the Nets want to compete for a championship and Marks will do what he can to help them. It's up to them to maintain a positive attitude and spirit.
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Lol Retire? That’s dramatic and unnecessary.