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Six questions-- what are your Net expectations for the '22-23 season? 

Post#1 » by gigantes » Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:58 pm

1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

3) What will our win total roughly be?

4) How far will we ultimately go?

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?
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Post#2 » by gigantes » Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:36 pm

I'll give it a shot, FWIW:

1) Talent-wise, yes. Seems like we're getting back to the '20-21 model, featuring better shooting, but with significantly better defensive talents than that team had.

2) As weirdly unpredictable as Kyrie has been since he came here, I see him having a strong, no-nonsense contract year. It's gotta be Simmons, then.

3) I'm gonna go with ~52 wins,
maybe with some dramatic peaks & valleys that swing the right way by the end of the season.

4) Knocking on the door of the ECF, maybe even to the finals if things come together well.
This isn't a long-time 'baked-in' team like the Bucks, Heat and Celts, so I don't feel that pressure / rewards.

5) I'm perfectly okay trading our stars and resetting, which could happen with a terrible start. Still, barring injury, it's hard to see. Aside from that, could Steve Nash be the next David Blatt? I'm down!

6) Just that I love it when young players defy expectations and become useful / integral.
Hoping for Sharpe and Edwards to really click, maybe even Duke, too. (not a big Cam fan, but we'll see)
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Re: Six questions-- what are your Net expectations for the '22-23 season? 

Post#3 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:11 pm

1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

As constructed, yes.

2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

The defense: Royce/Claxton/Simmons

3) What will our win total roughly be?

53

4) How far will we ultimately go?

the Finals if everyone is healthy and buying in.

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

I hope not

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?

It's hard to predict. I just hope that we can maintain health.
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Re: Six questions-- what are your Net expectations for the '22-23 season? 

Post#4 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:25 am

1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

It should be. But I don't see it working wise due to a lack of coaching, chemistry and injuries.

2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

Can KD/Kyrie/Simmons play 60+ games and be ready to go for the playoffs.

3) What will our win total roughly be?

48 wins

4) How far will we ultimately go?

2nd round exit

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

Nash may get fired if we start out bad

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?

KD may demand a trade again
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Post#5 » by Stone » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:29 am

1) Is this team a title contender?

Yes

2) What is the biggest X-factor?

X-factor good: Since defense was mentioned, passing. X-factor bad: Any losing streak more than three or four games. We are dealing with already strained relationships.

3) What will our win total be?

51

4) How far will this team go?

Championship until proven otherwise

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline?

Marks is not really known for deadline moves. Answer-No

6) Any surprises or interesting developments?

Patty, Marks and Ben caught in huge Vegemite smuggling ring. An international investigation reveals that Seth Curry and his brother wendell set them up and were behind the plot all along.
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Post#6 » by MaxZaslofskyJr » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:52 pm

1) Is this team indeed a title contender?
Yes. Maybe not the favorite but a contender.

2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?
Will age (and perhaps that injury) catch up with Durant?

3) What will our win total roughly be?
I'm going for 60. This team has had talent the last couple of years to reach that but somehow got derailed. Fingers crossed, this is the year they stay on track.

4) How far will we ultimately go?
Hmm. somewhere between ECF elimination and NBA champs.

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?
Hopefully, Nash gets shown the door.

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?
People will be talking about the play of Nets' young centers... Claxton & Sharpe. The match-ups where they will be outclassed will be the match-ups where pretty much anyone would.
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Post#7 » by NetsWorld » Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:49 pm

1) Is this team indeed a title contender?
Yes, in fact, if health permits and everyone buys in, they will remind the world that this is the monster team no one in the league wanted to see. This team resembles the 20-21 Nets but with better defense. And no, Harden fell off a cliff so he doesn't matter anymore.
2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?
Health and Kyrie Irving being available. Those two things need to happen for this team to win.

3) What will our win total roughly be?
Ideal world, 60, realistically speaking, 54 wins

4) How far will we ultimately go?
Healthy, a championship, if there are any detriments, probably second round

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?
Depends. If Harris is on and off with his injuries, Nets won't stay stagnant with him not being available. They may end up trading him and many teams will be tanking for Wembanyana....So they should be buyers at the deadline if they have a very good record

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?
Not as of yet.
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gigantes wrote:1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

3) What will our win total roughly be?

4) How far will we ultimately go?

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?

1. No, i don't believe or think Steve Trash can adjust or Kyrie to stay healthy entire season.
2. Nash and Kyrie.
3. Around 50, +/- 5 games depending on set backs.
4.ECF should be at least. Chip is a goal.
5. No
6. Banking on Cam to step up as a playmaker.
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Post#9 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:15 pm

Honestly, Harris is the person I'm worried about the most. Another foot issue??
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Post#10 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:48 pm

gigantes wrote:1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

3) What will our win total roughly be?

4) How far will we ultimately go?

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?


1 They better be with second largest payroll in the league

2 Kokoskov , is his presence is enough to cover Nash huge shortcomings

3 -47

4 heart says a chip , mind says first round exit

5 yes , Nash being fired

6 Kokoskov gets promoted and lead us to a championship
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Post#11 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Honestly, Harris is the person I'm worried about the most. Another foot issue??


Joe been a good Net , he got his payday with us but if the foot problems continues I don’t see how he’s here beyond trade deadline
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Post#12 » by Stone » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:58 pm

Joe is a crucial piece of this seasons squad. Bottom line we need a solid 15 PPG from him.
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Post#13 » by Papi_swav » Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:47 am

1) Is this team indeed a title contender?
Yes I think we are, we just need some time to gel. I think Ben is a perfect fit with our team here.

2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?
Kyrie, KD and Ben Simmons fragile ego. Are they going to play or is Kyrie going to skip a game for his sisters girl party. Oh and Steve Nashs crappy coaching. I think Claxton is a X factor, if he can be the big man we need him to be we'll be fine. He needs to continue to do what he does, play great defense all over the floor but definitely need for his strength and rebounding to improve alot if he's going to be our starting Center for the whole year.

3) What will our win total roughly be?
I'll say around 50. If we're healthy for the year I'll say 50 moreless, maybe 48ish.

4) How far will we ultimately go?
I'm hoping finals but I'll say ECF. There are tough teams out there Bucks, Sixers, Celtics, HEAT, Cavs. If everything clicks I think we can beat all those teams.

5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?
If things blow up Nash is definitely getting fired. I think we make a move by the deadline either way. If things are going right I think we'll trade either Harris, Seph or Patty for a big man or whatever a bigger need is at that moment. If we suck then I see a blowup.

6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?
I think Day'ron Sharpe will carve out a role and force for some playing time.
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Re: Six questions-- what are your Net expectations for the '22-23 season? 

Post#14 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:07 am

I like this thread! OK, here goes:

gigantes wrote:1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

Yes, barely. I've heard that the historical indicators of legitimate contention are being top 10 on both sides of the ball, and having a .700 record (58-24, or better). I think that we'll be a top 4 offense. On defense for the season, I see us as maybe top 12. For all of Nash's faults, he has inspired a higher level of play on that end in our 2 postseasons. Hopefully, he can give us into the 10 when it counts.

gigantes wrote:2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

Gotta be Ben. He's looked solid so far, as the defensive backbone and playmaking engine. In order for us to work, he's going to have to be more aggressive, especially in transition and in the dunker spot. It's the tenacity to finish through contact, and the willingness to go to the FT line, and convert.

gigantes wrote:3) What will our win total roughly be?

58-24, good for 3rd in the East. By talent, we project to win 62 games. But going through the schedule game by game, I can't see it. Vegas has our betting line at 50.5 wins, obviously influenced by our organizational dysfunction. So, I'm splitting the difference, with a slight lean toward optimism.

gigantes wrote:4) How far will we ultimately go?

AlL tHe WaY, bAbEeEeEe!!!!!!!

Nah, seriously, I think we're on a collision course with Philly. I don't think there's a world where this year's BRK beats this year's PHI in a 7-game series. Whether we meet them in the 1st round or the Coherence Finals, that's our stop.

gigantes wrote:5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

I kinda hope so. We desperately need a culture reset. I am relatively high on this team's ability to gut out one last stand, but GEEZ LOUISE! As a fan, without a serious shakeup this season is gonna be a rough watch.

gigantes wrote:6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?

Team sale. To Roman Abramovich.
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Post#15 » by NetsWorld » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:25 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:I like this thread! OK, here goes:

gigantes wrote:1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

Yes, barely. I've heard that the historical indicators of legitimate contention are being top 10 on both sides of the ball, and having a .700 record (58-24, or better). I think that we'll be a top 4 offense. On defense for the season, I see us as maybe top 12. For all of Nash's faults, he has inspired a higher level of play on that end in our 2 postseasons. Hopefully, he can give us into the 10 when it counts.

gigantes wrote:2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

Gotta be Ben. He's looked solid so far, as the defensive backbone and playmaking engine. In order for us to work, he's going to have to be more aggressive, especially in transition and in the dunker spot. It's the tenacity to finish through contact, and the willingness to go to the FT line, and convert.

gigantes wrote:3) What will our win total roughly be?

58-24, good for 3rd in the East. By talent, we project to win 62 games. But going through the schedule game by game, I can't see it. Vegas has our betting line at 50.5 wins, obviously influenced by our organizational dysfunction. So, I'm splitting the difference, with a slight lean toward optimism.

gigantes wrote:4) How far will we ultimately go?

AlL tHe WaY, bAbEeEeEe!!!!!!!

Nah, seriously, I think we're on a collision course with Philly. I don't think there's a world where this year's BRK beats this year's PHI in a 7-game series. Whether we meet them in the 1st round or the Coherence Finals, that's our stop.

gigantes wrote:5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

I kinda hope so. We desperately need a culture reset. I am relatively high on this team's ability to gut out one last stand, but GEEZ LOUISE! As a fan, without a serious shakeup this season is gonna be a rough watch.

gigantes wrote:6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?

Team sale. To Roman Abramovich.



Interesting, and you think Brooklyn's size, depth and star power isn't enough to overcome a Philly team with Embiid who always chokes and mails it in when it matters and Harden who always comes up small... I feel comfortable saying Nets over Philly in a generous six games. Two lucky wins, nothing more. Brooklyn would devour Philly, without question. Tucker, Harrell and Milton won't be enough to get Philly past Brooklyn.....But OK.
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Post#16 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:03 pm

NetsWorld wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:I like this thread! OK, here goes:

gigantes wrote:1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

Yes, barely. I've heard that the historical indicators of legitimate contention are being top 10 on both sides of the ball, and having a .700 record (58-24, or better). I think that we'll be a top 4 offense. On defense for the season, I see us as maybe top 12. For all of Nash's faults, he has inspired a higher level of play on that end in our 2 postseasons. Hopefully, he can give us into the 10 when it counts.

gigantes wrote:2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

Gotta be Ben. He's looked solid so far, as the defensive backbone and playmaking engine. In order for us to work, he's going to have to be more aggressive, especially in transition and in the dunker spot. It's the tenacity to finish through contact, and the willingness to go to the FT line, and convert.

gigantes wrote:3) What will our win total roughly be?

58-24, good for 3rd in the East. By talent, we project to win 62 games. But going through the schedule game by game, I can't see it. Vegas has our betting line at 50.5 wins, obviously influenced by our organizational dysfunction. So, I'm splitting the difference, with a slight lean toward optimism.

gigantes wrote:4) How far will we ultimately go?

AlL tHe WaY, bAbEeEeEe!!!!!!!

Nah, seriously, I think we're on a collision course with Philly. I don't think there's a world where this year's BRK beats this year's PHI in a 7-game series. Whether we meet them in the 1st round or the Coherence Finals, that's our stop.

gigantes wrote:5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

I kinda hope so. We desperately need a culture reset. I am relatively high on this team's ability to gut out one last stand, but GEEZ LOUISE! As a fan, without a serious shakeup this season is gonna be a rough watch.

gigantes wrote:6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?

Team sale. To Roman Abramovich.



Interesting, and you think Brooklyn's size, depth and star power isn't enough to overcome a Philly team with Embiid who always chokes and mails it in when it matters and Harden who always comes up small... I feel comfortable saying Nets over Philly in a generous six games. Two lucky wins, nothing more. Brooklyn would devour Philly, without question. Tucker, Harrell and Milton won't be enough to get Philly past Brooklyn.....But OK.


Nets have length all across the board. I'm not worried as long as we're healthy and Nash doesn't f*ck this up
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Post#17 » by NetsWorld » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:14 pm

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ecuhus1981 wrote:I like this thread! OK, here goes:


Yes, barely. I've heard that the historical indicators of legitimate contention are being top 10 on both sides of the ball, and having a .700 record (58-24, or better). I think that we'll be a top 4 offense. On defense for the season, I see us as maybe top 12. For all of Nash's faults, he has inspired a higher level of play on that end in our 2 postseasons. Hopefully, he can give us into the 10 when it counts.


Gotta be Ben. He's looked solid so far, as the defensive backbone and playmaking engine. In order for us to work, he's going to have to be more aggressive, especially in transition and in the dunker spot. It's the tenacity to finish through contact, and the willingness to go to the FT line, and convert.


58-24, good for 3rd in the East. By talent, we project to win 62 games. But going through the schedule game by game, I can't see it. Vegas has our betting line at 50.5 wins, obviously influenced by our organizational dysfunction. So, I'm splitting the difference, with a slight lean toward optimism.


AlL tHe WaY, bAbEeEeEe!!!!!!!

Nah, seriously, I think we're on a collision course with Philly. I don't think there's a world where this year's BRK beats this year's PHI in a 7-game series. Whether we meet them in the 1st round or the Coherence Finals, that's our stop.


I kinda hope so. We desperately need a culture reset. I am relatively high on this team's ability to gut out one last stand, but GEEZ LOUISE! As a fan, without a serious shakeup this season is gonna be a rough watch.


Team sale. To Roman Abramovich.



Interesting, and you think Brooklyn's size, depth and star power isn't enough to overcome a Philly team with Embiid who always chokes and mails it in when it matters and Harden who always comes up small... I feel comfortable saying Nets over Philly in a generous six games. Two lucky wins, nothing more. Brooklyn would devour Philly, without question. Tucker, Harrell and Milton won't be enough to get Philly past Brooklyn.....But OK.


Nets have length all across the board. I'm not worried as long as we're healthy and Nash doesn't f*ck this up


I was responding to ecuhus because I think its laughable to say Philly can beat Brooklyn in the playoffs. Two playoff closers will ALWAYS get it done against two playoff chokers.
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Post#18 » by Riconet » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:50 pm

1) Is this team indeed a title contender?

No. In theory, they should be, but too many semi-unlikely things need to go their way. I think it's less than 20% likely that (i) Kyrie stays healthy and engaged and doesn't undermine the team with his BS, (ii) Simmons finds his all-star form, (iii) Harris gets healthy, (iv) Curry gets healthy, (v) Claxton and/or Sharpe deliver credible play at C AND (vi) KD doesn't get PO'd and demand another trade -- and the Nets need all of those things to happen in order to be contenders.


2) What's the biggest x-factor for the Nets?

Whether Simmons can regain his all-star form.


3) What will our win total roughly be?

47


4) How far will we ultimately go?

Bounced in 2nd round of playoffs, possibly 1st. I don't see them beating the Celtics, Bucks or Heat (again, unless all of the contingencies go their way, in which case they can beat anyone). I can see them beating the 76ers, but they could easily lose that series as well.


5) Will there be a major shakeup before the deadline, such as Nash being fired, or KD / KI / Harris / etc being shipped out?

No. Kyrie will probably try to keep the drama under control so he can get a contract from some foolish team next summer, the Nets aren't going to take a cheapo package for KD, and no one will give them anything for Harris if he isn't healthy (and if he is healthy, he'll be too valuable to trade). Nash won't be fired because Tsai isn't interested in letting the inmates run the asylum any longer.


6) Any other surprises or interesting developments you foresee?

I can see Claxton and/or Sharpe being pretty solid.
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Post#19 » by mg » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:26 pm

This team will get to the EC Finals. It's all luck, health, etc at that point.
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Post#20 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:59 am

Joe Harris being injured still is very concerning.

What if he has a reoccurring issue? That would be a huge loss I'm not sure we can recover from.

On the brightside, I don't think the other teams in the East scare me too much.

Boston is the best team, but they have this coaching fiasco. Which could make them vulnerable.

Philly is still relying on James Harden in the playoffs. LOL.

Milwaukee I've never bought into as some great team. Luckiest path to a title ever. Middleton is severely overrated as some second star.

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