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So now the media is making steve nash the victim? 

Post#1 » by Nycspirit718 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:06 pm

They are starting the narrative that nash will be the “fall giy” unbelievevable completely ignoring the fact that hes a horrible coach lmao you cannot make this up

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Post#2 » by GYK » Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:37 am

Oh well. Long as he’s gone and we get a real coach and some real changes. Particularly a real center and another 3&D wing most likely at the cost of Seth, Joe, Cam, Nic and 23’s(one dimensional players on a team without a stellar paint protector is dumb basketball).
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Post#3 » by NetsWorld » Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:06 pm

Nycspirit718 wrote:They are starting the narrative that nash will be the “fall giy” unbelievevable completely ignoring the fact that hes a horrible coach lmao you cannot make this up

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I like your energy on these boards. Nash should have been a goner since the losing streak of last year, but unfortunately, here he is blaming the players and not taking any accountability.
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Post#4 » by NetsJets » Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:09 pm

Steve Nash must really be a nice guy because rarely do I see coaches on the hot seat get this kind of pity.
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Post#5 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:23 pm

Simmons is friends with Nash so whatever.

The entire media has given Steve Nash a pass for 3 years. They NEVER blame him.

Guy is the worst coach in the league. HE SUCKS.
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Re: So now the media is making steve nash the victim? 

Post#6 » by Stone » Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:46 pm

Nash is only part of the problem. Last season we started off 16-6. Our best ever start. The coach any coach gets the blame and never the credit.

He just called the team out for the disgraceful defense.

Personally I don't know why a wealthy guy like Nash would even want to get his name dragged through the mud with KD calling him out. Maybe he wants to be the last guy standing IDK.
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Post#7 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:50 pm

Blow it up at the deadline, and give Nash the second half of the season to work with a rebuilding team. Jacques Vaughn as head coach is not going to turn things around.
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Post#8 » by NetsWorld » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:03 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:Blow it up at the deadline, and give Nash the second half of the season to work with a rebuilding team. Jacques Vaughn as head coach is not going to turn things around.



They only blow it up at the deadline if they have an awful record. Otherwise, Nash is gone first. They have some time to right the ship; once Nash is gone, I expect Nets to HOPEFULLY hire a more competent coach and Marks HAS TO ADDRESS back up PG needs by December and at least a big that can bang down low and bully other teams. Those three needs need to be filled otherwise Nets are going to roasted and toasted.
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Post#9 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:36 pm

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TheNetsFan wrote:Blow it up at the deadline, and give Nash the second half of the season to work with a rebuilding team. Jacques Vaughn as head coach is not going to turn things around.



They only blow it up at the deadline if they have an awful record. Otherwise, Nash is gone first. They have some time to right the ship; once Nash is gone, I expect Nets to HOPEFULLY hire a more competent coach and Marks HAS TO ADDRESS back up PG needs by December and at least a big that can bang down low and bully other teams. Those three needs need to be filled otherwise Nets are going to roasted and toasted.

When was the last time a team hired a head coach mid-season? It doesn't happen. If we fire Nash, Jacques or Igor become head coach until he end of the season.
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Post#10 » by NetsWorld » Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:05 pm

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TheNetsFan wrote:Blow it up at the deadline, and give Nash the second half of the season to work with a rebuilding team. Jacques Vaughn as head coach is not going to turn things around.



They only blow it up at the deadline if they have an awful record. Otherwise, Nash is gone first. They have some time to right the ship; once Nash is gone, I expect Nets to HOPEFULLY hire a more competent coach and Marks HAS TO ADDRESS back up PG needs by December and at least a big that can bang down low and bully other teams. Those three needs need to be filled otherwise Nets are going to roasted and toasted.

When was the last time a team hired a head coach mid-season? It doesn't happen. If we fire Nash, Jacques or Igor become head coach until he end of the season.



I meant trading the players by deadline if the record was awful. Nash will be the first to go and I really hope it's sooner than later because obviously if he is around by February, he ain't going anywhere.
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Post#11 » by Xtruroyaltyx77 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 8:59 am

Almost every team's fanbase in the nba hates their coach and wants them fired.

Nash probably wasnt a good coach, but just two years ago he was a literal inch away from possibly going to the finals and winning it all. You can say that team wouldve won in spite of him, but no kyrie and they were still right there.

Its not all on Nash that theyve fallen this far since then. Players have to take a large part of the blame.
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Post#12 » by therealbig3 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 9:08 am

Nash was like 10% of the issue, at most. The real issue was that Kyrie and KD are soft as baby **** and got dominated by the Celtics. The year before, Kyrie got hurt and Harden was on one leg.

We have unreliable stars. Who have legit flaws to their game, it’s not like they’re perfect players in general anyway. Our third supposed star has been horrible on both ends of the court so far. We have a roster that’s depleted of defensive talent for 3 years now.

There are a lot of issues with this team, and for me, it always starts with Kyrie, KD, and Simmons. All the complaints about Nash in my honest opinion were just fans that don’t want to admit that our best players aren’t anywhere near as good as they think they are.
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Post#13 » by GTR11 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 9:41 am

therealbig3 wrote:Nash was like 10% of the issue, at most. The real issue was that Kyrie and KD are soft as baby **** and got dominated by the Celtics. The year before, Kyrie got hurt and Harden was on one leg.

We have unreliable stars. Who have legit flaws to their game, it’s not like they’re perfect players in general anyway. Our third supposed star has been horrible on both ends of the court so far. We have a roster that’s depleted of defensive talent for 3 years now.

There are a lot of issues with this team, and for me, it always starts with Kyrie, KD, and Simmons. All the complaints about Nash in my honest opinion were just fans that don’t want to admit that our best players aren’t anywhere near as good as they think they are.


:rofl:

How many times you repeat same damn thing over and over yet you keep reading this crap.

" THERE IS A REASON WHY SAME COACHES WIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN !!! "

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Post#14 » by alpha » Wed Nov 2, 2022 12:54 pm

The joke starts with Durant, then Kyrie, then on to Simmonds, Marks and the ownership group. If you blame Nash for this you need to watch curling
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Post#15 » by Riconet » Wed Nov 2, 2022 1:45 pm

GTR11 wrote: :rofl:

How many times you repeat same damn thing over and over yet you keep reading this crap.

" THERE IS A REASON WHY SAME COACHES WIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN !!! "

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Well, Frank Vogel has won, then lost, then won a title, then lost (in a similarly impossible situation to Nash's), then gotten canned.

Serious question: do you think the Nets will be substantially better under Udoka? I do not.
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Post#16 » by GTR11 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 2:46 pm

Riconet wrote:
GTR11 wrote: :rofl:

How many times you repeat same damn thing over and over yet you keep reading this crap.

" THERE IS A REASON WHY SAME COACHES WIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN !!! "

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Well, Frank Vogel has won, then lost, then won a title, then lost (in a similarly impossible situation to Nash's), then gotten canned.

Serious question: do you think the Nets will be substantially better under Udoka? I do not.

That ring has a lot of asterisks to it, also LBJ won with another mid tear coach in Lue. Bad example to pick on. It's more about LBJ than Vogel. Also don't bring Doc either because it straight demagoguery. If you can't separate top coaches from midtear ... well maybe evaluating talent is not your strong suit.
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Post#17 » by Stanford » Wed Nov 2, 2022 3:08 pm

This is exactly what you guys did with Ben.
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Post#18 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Nov 2, 2022 3:19 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Nash was like 10% of the issue, at most. The real issue was that Kyrie and KD are soft as baby **** and got dominated by the Celtics. The year before, Kyrie got hurt and Harden was on one leg.

We have unreliable stars. Who have legit flaws to their game, it’s not like they’re perfect players in general anyway. Our third supposed star has been horrible on both ends of the court so far. We have a roster that’s depleted of defensive talent for 3 years now.

There are a lot of issues with this team, and for me, it always starts with Kyrie, KD, and Simmons. All the complaints about Nash in my honest opinion were just fans that don’t want to admit that our best players aren’t anywhere near as good as they think they are.

I agree with everything you're saying about our players, however each of our key guys have been injured enough for us to see that, beyond their talent, there was little to no system in place that got the most out of the other players.

We saw this during the regular season last year when KD got injured. I absolutely agree with KD that a team should not drop from 1st place to fighting for the play-in just because he got injured for a few weeks. We also saw during the playoffs that we had no offensive system other than 'give the ball to KD & Kyrie'.

And given the fact that our core players are flawed, it should compel the organization all the more to get the best coach in place to maximize our talent. We need to put forth the greatest sum of our collective parts in the little time we have left before the negatives of our core players (i.e. their flaws and salaries) outweigh the positives they bring.
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Post#19 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 3:49 pm

Xtruroyaltyx77 wrote:Almost every team's fanbase in the nba hates their coach and wants them fired.

Nash probably wasnt a good coach, but just two years ago he was a literal inch away from possibly going to the finals and winning it all. You can say that team wouldve won in spite of him, but no kyrie and they were still right there.

Its not all on Nash that theyve fallen this far since then. Players have to take a large part of the blame.

to be accurate, that two years ago comparison included Mike D'Antoni and Ime Udoka on that staff... with a balling out MVP run by Harden(before the decline).

So how much Nash credit was really there? if anything we learn more about Nash without the crutches....

even in the MIL series, that year including playoffs he made plenty of head scratching calls(but due to talent, it was overcome from time to time)
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Post#20 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Nov 2, 2022 4:07 pm

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Xtruroyaltyx77 wrote:Almost every team's fanbase in the nba hates their coach and wants them fired.

Nash probably wasnt a good coach, but just two years ago he was a literal inch away from possibly going to the finals and winning it all. You can say that team wouldve won in spite of him, but no kyrie and they were still right there.

Its not all on Nash that theyve fallen this far since then. Players have to take a large part of the blame.

to be accurate, that two years ago comparison included Mike D'Antoni and Ime Udoka on that staff... with a balling out MVP run by Harden(before the decline).

So how much Nash credit was really there? if anything we learn more about Nash without the crutches....

even in the MIL series, that year including playoffs he made plenty of head scratching calls(but due to talent, it was overcome from time to time)

To put it bluntly, we had the greatest trio of individual offensive talent ever assembled on a team. But even with all of that talent, they were still run into the ground.

I don't know how anyone can look at Nash and think he utilized the talent he had at his disposal in an optimal fashion. It was clear that he never set the team as a collective to play efficient, consistently effective basketball on either side of the ball.

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