Is there a reason we havent signed a big?

bubonicphoniks · Post #1 » by **bubonicphoniks** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:44 pm

I cant figure out why we havent signed a guy?

Its a glaring and documented hole. What are we waiting for?

Anyone have insight?

MrDollarBills · Post #2 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:28 am

We need a stretch 5 more than anything, i don't see any on the free agent market.

NetsWorld · Post #3 » by **NetsWorld** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:22 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:We need a stretch 5 more than anything, i don't see any on the free agent market.

I would be OK giving Cousins a non guaranteed deal to at least try him out. No one out there is going to do us any favors in the trade market. The league wants us to blow it up already. They should use that as motivation.

Stone · Post #4 » by **Stone** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:19 pm

bubonicphoniks wrote:I cant figure out why we havent signed a guy?

Its a glaring and documented hole. What are we waiting for?

Anyone have insight?

The only reason I can come up with is that maybe there is nobody out there worth cutting one of our guys for right now.

Here is our roster, who would we cut?

1) Royce
2) TJ
3) Sumner
4) Duke (Two Way contract)
5) KD
6) Patty
7) Ben
8) Kyrie
9) Joe
10) Markieff
11) Kessler
12) Yuta
13) DayRon
14) Cam
15) Seth
16) Alondes Williams (Two way contract)
17) Nic

TheNetsFan · Post #5 » by **TheNetsFan** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:55 pm

1) The need for a big is VERY overstated.
2) In addition to what Stone stated (who are you going to cut?), whose minutes are you taking away to get this new big time? Claxton/Simmons/Morris? Or are we going to go with a two C lineup?

We lead the league in blocks per game by a WIDE margin. The rebounding issues are one of system, effort & fundamentals. Our players over help, always leave their feet for block attempts, avoid contact, don't box out & leak out too quickly. Adding an off the street big is not going to help if the other 4 guys on the court don't box out.

Minnamaker · Post #6 » by **Minnamaker** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:59 pm

I don't believe that they don't wanna cut anyone. There are a lot of players who hardly play anyway (Kessler, Duke, Sharpe, etc). I guess they wait for dec 15th, when more players are available at the trade market. If a trade does not go down, I hope they take a flyer with cousins. He has the size we need and a mid range jump shot. But I think it's wise to wait if better players/fits are available mid-december

NetsWorld · Post #7 » by **NetsWorld** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:18 pm

Minnamaker wrote:I don't believe that they don't wanna cut anyone. There are a lot of players who hardly play anyway (Kessler, Duke, Sharpe, etc). I guess they wait for dec 15th, when more players are available at the trade market. If a trade does not go down, I hope they take a flyer with cousins. He has the size we need and a mid range jump shot. But I think it's wise to wait if better players/fits are available mid-december

Again, no one is handing a loaded team a player to round it out. No one feels pity for us, and rightfully so. This team has enough talent to win, it's a matter of intangibles and effort. The size is an issue but that's fixable if you take a gamble on someone like Cousins who would probably bust his ass for another contract.

Minnamaker · Post #8 » by **Minnamaker** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:48 pm

I think we have assets though. I would not be surprised if one of Yuta, Joe, Seth, Patty gets traded. Additionally there are players like Duke, Sumner, Cam, Edwards that might get some interest. I don't think anyone should be considered save. Don't know If there is the right trade partner, but we certainly have players that can help teams, especially offensively.

Stone · Post #9 » by **Stone** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:11 pm

I hate to say it or even think it but.......Yuta's value is high right now. We could probably get a good return for him. Or add him in as a sweetener along with Joe to Indy for Myles Turner.

NetsWorld · Post #10 » by **NetsWorld** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:48 pm

Stone wrote:I hate to say it or even think it but.......Yuta's value is high right now. We could probably get a good return for him. Or add him in as a sweetener along with Joe to Indy for Myles Turner.

Im not high on getting this guy or gutting our roster for him. No thanks, I'll stick to adding someone perhaps next month or signing someone from the buyout market. This team HAS NO EXCUSES not to perform.

MrDollarBills · Post #11 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:51 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:1) The need for a big is VERY overstated.
2) In addition to what Stone stated (who are you going to cut?), whose minutes are you taking away to get this new big time? Claxton/Simmons/Morris? Or are we going to go with a two C lineup?

We lead the league in blocks per game by a WIDE margin. The rebounding issues are one of system, effort & fundamentals. Our players over help, always leave their feet for block attempts, avoid contact, don't box out & leak out too quickly. Adding an off the street big is not going to help if the other 4 guys on the court don't box out.

The switching also compounds the issue.

Ben, Claxton, and KD should really be enough rebounding in the starting unit. I just think the team has some awful habits and the overhelping is REALLY causing issues not only with leaving three point shooters open but also being in position to rebound.

sashaturiaf · Post #12 » by **sashaturiaf** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:05 pm

NetsWorld wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:We need a stretch 5 more than anything, i don't see any on the free agent market.

I would be OK giving Cousins a non guaranteed deal to at least try him out. No one out there is going to do us any favors in the trade market. The league wants us to blow it up already. They should use that as motivation.

Agreed. I don't trust Cousins can stay on the court in the playoffs

But in the regular season? He will give us some good minutes as long as he's healthy. Sign him now, instead of running KD and Clax into the ground.

Papi_swav · Post #13 » by **Papi_swav** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:00 am

Did LMA retire yet? he was so perfect for this team but he can't stay healthy. I like Dieng, he shouldn't take alot to get. Myles Turner would be perfect here but Pacers want someone to overpay for him which I'm not comfy with doing.

NetsWorld · Post #14 » by **NetsWorld** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:11 am

Papi_swav wrote:Did LMA retire yet? he was so perfect for this team but he can't stay healthy. I like Dieng, he shouldn't take alot to get. Myles Turner would be perfect here but Pacers want someone to overpay for him which I'm not comfy with doing.

Didn’t retire but he didn’t sign with another team; he was red hot from the mid range last year but was getting hurt. I really think this team can use Cousins. Cousins would be better for us than LMA

JoseRizal · Post #15 » by **JoseRizal** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:08 am

Marks is a sadist. He enjoys seeing the team getting outrebounded both defensively and offensively game after game.

We need bulldogs, we only have poodles...

OfficialRef · Post #16 » by **OfficialRef** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:36 pm

The team should have signed Dwight, he would have been perfect as an anchor, lob threat and rebounding specialist. Marks like the idiot he is didn't sign him.

I don't think a stretch 5 is seriously needed, moreso a big who is tough and can bang down low with the biggest and best of them. Someone unafraid to get in others faces like the old school centers. Too many guys are either athletes or one way shooters.

OfficialRef · Post #17 » by **OfficialRef** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:43 pm

I'll keep saying it: the team needs to sell high on Claxton.

He is talented, but he lacks true toughness and doesn't have the will to be a true defensive anchor against good teams.

His best efforts are against mediocre teams without elite centers. Offensively, hes limited as a bad free throw shooter (struggle to play him in closing games) and his IQ is pretty horrid.

bubonicphoniks · Post #18 » by **bubonicphoniks** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:30 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:1) The need for a big is VERY overstated.
2) In addition to what Stone stated (who are you going to cut?), whose minutes are you taking away to get this new big time? Claxton/Simmons/Morris? Or are we going to go with a two C lineup?

We lead the league in blocks per game by a WIDE margin. The rebounding issues are one of system, effort & fundamentals. Our players over help, always leave their feet for block attempts, avoid contact, don't box out & leak out too quickly. Adding an off the street big is not going to help if the other 4 guys on the court don't box out.

I personally would be fine cutting Kessler Edwards. I like him but he doesnt play and he doesnt add anything we dont have or can't find in a pinch.

Second I don't really see it as a big would be taking minutes from anyone. We need a matchup dependant big that at least gives us the option to go big and forces teams to at least have to game plan for it.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #19 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sun Dec 4, 2022 5:18 am

Any Center who can play 10 minutes would be a God send. Just for certain matchups.

I would easily take Dwight at this point. We just need a big body who can rebound and take fouls.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #20 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sun Dec 4, 2022 5:19 am

OfficialRef wrote:I'll keep saying it: the team needs to sell high on Claxton.

He is talented, but he lacks true toughness and doesn't have the will to be a true defensive anchor against good teams.

His best efforts are against mediocre teams without elite centers. Offensively, hes limited as a bad free throw shooter (struggle to play him in closing games) and his IQ is pretty horrid.

That would be insane.

Claxton is elite defensively. And a rim runner.

He is so young and will keep getting better.

Yes his FTs are a huge problem. He needs to fix it somehow.