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GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#1 » by Stone » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:58 pm

It is not going to easy to replace KD's efficiency. 30 PPG, 7 boards, 5 rebounds but it's a next man up league and we have to find a way to fight through it.

Joe and Ben are going to be key pieces moving forward. We need them both to step up big time. Also curious to see if Cam gets some significant minutes.

Thursday night's game against the C's will be a big test and if we win it would be a huge confidence builder and a boost for moral.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#2 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:00 pm

Stone wrote:It is not going to easy to replace KD's efficiency. 30 PPG, 7 boards, 5 rebounds but it's a next man up league and we have to find a way to fight through it.

Joe and Ben are going to be key pieces moving forward. We need them both to step up big time. Also curious to see if Cam gets some significant minutes.

Thursday night's game against the C's will be a big test and if we win it would be a huge confidence builder and a boost for moral.


Ben, Joe, TJ, Seth. Those 4 have to step up and be aggressive. Cam will get some burn as well.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#3 » by NetsWorld » Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:23 pm

I am not asking for a victory, if KD was playing, I would say no excuses, but I want to see how Simmons defense is going to impact the C's offense. I don't think or hope Tatum/Brown will be getting easy looks. Yuta/Simmons didn't play last month so I want to see how their size bothers Boston, if it does. If we win, rest assured this Nets team won't be losing as many as it did last year when KD went out.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#4 » by Stone » Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:39 pm

As far as the replacement for KD in the starting lineup. The safe bet is probably Joe. But, wouldn't put it past Jacque to add a little chicanery and put Yuta in for the start.

Another thing is the Celtics are playing in New Orleans tonight and face us at the Clays tomorrow for the back to back.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#5 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:20 pm

Stone wrote:As far as the replacement for KD in the starting lineup. The safe bet is probably Joe. But, wouldn't put it past Jacque to add a little chicanery and put Yuta in for the start.

Another thing is the Celtics are playing in New Orleans tonight and face us at the Clays tomorrow for the back to back.



I don't like the idea of Claxton/Harris/Royce/Irving/Simmons

i'd probably start Yuta as well. It at least gives us more defense having Clax/Ben/Yuta on the floor together.
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Post#6 » by Papi_swav » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:24 pm

We should probably give Edwards some burn too
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Post#7 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:41 am

I think Yuta is probably the best option to star at this point. Youre losing too much size with Harris. But lets see if it works.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#8 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:23 am

Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.
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Post#9 » by NetsWorld » Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:51 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.


The wording of Woj suggests Nets want a STAR like or close to star level player. I think they are going for Kuzma or Siakam. Crazy as it sounds but I am predicting that's where Marks is headed; do I think it will happen? Don't know.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#10 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:15 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.


The wording of Woj suggests Nets want a STAR like or close to star level player. I think they are going for Kuzma or Siakam. Crazy as it sounds but I am predicting that's where Marks is headed; do I think it will happen? Don't know.


What pieces can we give up to bring back a 4th star?

I dunno, I don't hate the idea because we really need to go all in to win a title now, but i just don't see it happening without losing what makes this team good: our depth.
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Post#11 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:40 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.

I'm sure Marks will listen on Ben as well. There could always be a rebuilding team that is willing to roll the dice on him. I honestly think the best chance for him to quickly regain his past aggressiveness is to be on a team where he's the short term alpha & there is no pressure to win.

Woj also mentioned that we're looking at the frontcourt. I worry about shrinking our backcourt further by trading Joe and adding another big that will need to split time with Claxton, KD, Warren & Simmons.

Are we considering SFs "frontcourt players." Could guys like DeRozan or Hayward be on the radar? Would Hayward even be areliable enough upgrade? It would take Joe and Patty to even get close to matching salary. A DeRozan deal would likely mean Chicago would take a flyer on Ben as part of a rebuild. I don't really know if either fit all that well.
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Post#12 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:00 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.

I'm sure Marks will listen on Ben as well. There could always be a rebuilding team that is willing to roll the dice on him. I honestly think the best chance for him to quickly regain his past aggressiveness is to be on a team where he's the short term alpha & there is no pressure to win.

Woj also mentioned that we're looking at the frontcourt. I worry about shrinking our backcourt further by trading Joe and adding another big that will need to split time with Claxton, KD, Warren & Simmons.

Are we considering SFs "frontcourt players." Could guys like DeRozan or Hayward be on the radar? Would Hayward even be areliable enough upgrade? It would take Joe and Patty to even get close to matching salary. A DeRozan deal would likely mean Chicago would take a flyer on Ben as part of a rebuild. I don't really know if either fit all that well.


I may be in the minority but I don't want to trade Ben. I like his fit and his role, even if it isn't flashy. KD-Ben-Claxton is a problem on both ends for opponents. I don't want to lose that aspect.

I would be willing to sacrifice one of Seth or Joe and some of the prospects, but that's it.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#13 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:37 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.

I'm sure Marks will listen on Ben as well. There could always be a rebuilding team that is willing to roll the dice on him. I honestly think the best chance for him to quickly regain his past aggressiveness is to be on a team where he's the short term alpha & there is no pressure to win.

Woj also mentioned that we're looking at the frontcourt. I worry about shrinking our backcourt further by trading Joe and adding another big that will need to split time with Claxton, KD, Warren & Simmons.

Are we considering SFs "frontcourt players." Could guys like DeRozan or Hayward be on the radar? Would Hayward even be areliable enough upgrade? It would take Joe and Patty to even get close to matching salary. A DeRozan deal would likely mean Chicago would take a flyer on Ben as part of a rebuild. I don't really know if either fit all that well.


I may be in the minority but I don't want to trade Ben. I like his fit and his role, even if it isn't flashy. KD-Ben-Claxton is a problem on both ends for opponents. I don't want to lose that aspect.

I would be willing to sacrifice one of Seth or Joe and some of the prospects, but that's it.

I don't disagree, but then the frontcourt "star" needs definitely be of the stretch variety. I also don't love the idea of KD trying to guard guys like Tatum out on the perimeter consistently. If they're really going star chasing (I have doubts), it may cost Joe +Royce/Seth from a pure salary matching perspective. One guy that I could see getting moved that would be a very good fit is Jerami Grant.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#14 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:59 pm

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TheNetsFan wrote:I'm sure Marks will listen on Ben as well. There could always be a rebuilding team that is willing to roll the dice on him. I honestly think the best chance for him to quickly regain his past aggressiveness is to be on a team where he's the short term alpha & there is no pressure to win.

Woj also mentioned that we're looking at the frontcourt. I worry about shrinking our backcourt further by trading Joe and adding another big that will need to split time with Claxton, KD, Warren & Simmons.

Are we considering SFs "frontcourt players." Could guys like DeRozan or Hayward be on the radar? Would Hayward even be areliable enough upgrade? It would take Joe and Patty to even get close to matching salary. A DeRozan deal would likely mean Chicago would take a flyer on Ben as part of a rebuild. I don't really know if either fit all that well.


I may be in the minority but I don't want to trade Ben. I like his fit and his role, even if it isn't flashy. KD-Ben-Claxton is a problem on both ends for opponents. I don't want to lose that aspect.

I would be willing to sacrifice one of Seth or Joe and some of the prospects, but that's it.

I don't disagree, but then the frontcourt "star" needs definitely be of the stretch variety. I also don't love the idea of KD trying to guard guys like Tatum out on the perimeter consistently. If they're really going star chasing (I have doubts), it may cost Joe +Royce/Seth from a pure salary matching perspective. One guy that I could see getting moved that would be a very good fit is Jerami Grant.


Yeah that's another reason why I want Ben to stay, KD is better as a help defender than having to defend all of these younger stars.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#15 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:07 pm

NetsWorld wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.


The wording of Woj suggests Nets want a STAR like or close to star level player. I think they are going for Kuzma or Siakam. Crazy as it sounds but I am predicting that's where Marks is headed; do I think it will happen? Don't know.


I don't understand what upgrade is needed.

Kuzma makes no sense. Hes not a good shooter.

You need elite spacing with Simmons/Claxton.

Siakim would make more sense. But there is no way we get him.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#16 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:08 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Woj says Nets are looking to upgrade.

Cam, Kess, Sharpe, and one of Seth or Joe are probably the likely pieces being shopped.

I'm sure Marks will listen on Ben as well. There could always be a rebuilding team that is willing to roll the dice on him. I honestly think the best chance for him to quickly regain his past aggressiveness is to be on a team where he's the short term alpha & there is no pressure to win.

Woj also mentioned that we're looking at the frontcourt. I worry about shrinking our backcourt further by trading Joe and adding another big that will need to split time with Claxton, KD, Warren & Simmons.

Are we considering SFs "frontcourt players." Could guys like DeRozan or Hayward be on the radar? Would Hayward even be areliable enough upgrade? It would take Joe and Patty to even get close to matching salary. A DeRozan deal would likely mean Chicago would take a flyer on Ben as part of a rebuild. I don't really know if either fit all that well.


Simmons is still an elite defender.

I think these next few weeks will show whether he can get his offense back.

Hayward is a walking injury. Derzoan is worth way more tha anything we could give.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#17 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:38 pm

Nets are coming off 3 days rest and the Celtics are on a b2b. This is the most favorable set-up the Nets minus KD could ask for.

At the very least I want to see the Nets push the pace and play with force to start the game. This starts with Ben. He gotta be aggressive, no necessarily shooting but with starting possessions quickly and turning rebounds into transition.

Hope JV stays away from micro lineups (Curry + KAI/Cam). Should only be 1 midget on the floor. Sumner has to play.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#18 » by Stone » Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:01 pm

Where there is smoke......I still think John Collins is a strong possibility. We could keep KD, Ky and Ben and give up Joe and Cam. We get a 13 and 8 guy who I believe will move the needle for us.

We also get someone six years younger than Joe. Long term it makes sense, Ben is still young, Kyrie is a below the rim player and those types have long careers like Chris Paul, as opposed to a Ja Morant type that burns out faster. Have to also think about KD, he could be through 25/26.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#19 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:13 pm

Just saw Celtics are 6-0 on back to backs. Not surprising given their roster. :(
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Post#20 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:35 pm

Joe Harris is starting. Jaylen Brown is out, so that helps offset the loss of KD a bit. Then again, the Celtics have a lot of very good depth behind him.

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