Trade Deadline 10 Days Away - What Should We Do?

[MGrand15]

I've thought about potential trades a lot and honestly, it's hard to find something that works. So many teams are in 'win-now' mode. The teams that aren't are expecting major draft compensation for good players. We have some picks to give but it's not so simple after all the picks we gave up for Harden. Our trade assets are either unproven young guys or 1 way players who are too old for rebuilding teams. Either way, I tried to come up with a bunch of scenarios. What direction would you want to go in?

TRADE ASSETS:
Joe Harris - 18.6M for 2 years - currently having a down year but he's still 40% from 3 and a well respected player around the league
Seth Curry - 8.4M for 1 year - after a slow start he's at 44% from 3 and has shown he can cook in a larger role
Patty Mills - 6.4M for 2 years - no basketball value but he makes enough to help match contracts
Cam Thomas
Day'ron Sharpe
Kessler Edwards

2027 1st rounder - we can trade our pick or Philly's
2029 1st rounder - our pick

We have some random 2nd rounders but nothing significant.

My sense is the team is going to be aggressive with the picks we can trade.

TEAM NEEDS (not in order):
Backup C
Big Forward
Backup PG

CURRENT TEAM RANKINGS:
7th in Offense
10th in Defense
6th in Net RTG

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Random Trade Options (all work in the trade machine)

1. Joe Harris + Cam Thomas for John Collins
ATL is a below average offense right now. They turn a clunky fit who has 4 years on his contract into an elite shooter who only has 2. We get a guy that can play 4/5 who can score efficiently. He's flawed but off the bench, he's a pretty good option with upside.

2. Joe Harris for Jae Crowder + filler (Shamet or Saric work)
We lose shooting but get a tough wing who can guard 3s and 4s + shoot a little bit. He fits the O'Neal mold we went for in the offseason.

3. Joe Harris for Josh Hart + Justise Winslow (???)
Hart has stopped shooting 3s for some reason but he would help us rely on Royce less. Strong defender who can do a little bit of everything.

4. Cam Thomas + 2nd round pick for Naz Reid
This rumor is out there. I think Naz is too valuable to the Wolves but maybe Cam has value as a ball handler.

5. Joe Harris + Seth Curry for Dorian Finney-Smith + Davis Bertans

6. Seth Curry + Sharpe + Morris for Patrick Beverly + Thomas Bryant

IF THE NETS DON'T BELIEVE IN BEN TRADES
7. Ben Simmons for Kyle Kuzma + Will Barton + Delon Wright

8. Ben Simmons for PJ Washington + Gordon Hayward

9. Ben Simmons + Kessler Edwards for PJ Washington + Mason Plumlee + Kelly Oubre

[Netaman]

good thread - i have no idea what they do but i think they will be active. i think this is their last dance.

ben is the most interesting wild card.

john collins is an under utilized/under valued asset so he's really interesting. he shot almost 40% from 3 from 2019-2022. He can do a lot athletically and fit with clax/ben/kd. i'd really like to find a way to get him here. bring him off the bench and let him fire away.

[Tha King]

Good thread and writeup

Hayward is a good call and I think you can put together enough min. salary next to Harris to make something work. imo he's the best trade option:

1) It likely would not take any draft picks. He's on a terrible contract and by going from Hayward to Harris, the Hornets get better flexibility to re-sign PJ Washington and McDaniels.

So you take on a worse contract but get a better player and still have the draft picks to improve elsewhere.

2) Unlike players like Kuzma and Collins, Hayward is a good playmaker and has been a solid to good defender. He adds more to a team imo

Next, Collins and Richardson on the Spurs would imo be great fits. Richardson can defend 1-3 and gives you another player that can handle and playmake a bit while Collins is a big that can stretch the floor some.

Thomas, Mills, Curry (could go to a different team for seconds to go to the Spurs) works.

You now have:

Kyrie/Simmons
Hayward/Richardson
O'Neale/Yuta
Durant/Warren
Claxton/Collins

Very switchable team with more scoring and playmaking ability. I think this is a better team and in the offseason you'd have an expiring Hayward plus several first round draft picks (2023, Sixers 2027, 2028, etc.) to make a move, if needed.

[therealbig3]

I'd look to move Simmons for pretty much anything honestly. Don't think he's any good, so whatever we can get for him would be fine.

[GTR11]

I'd look to move Simmons for pretty much anything honestly. Don't think he's any good, so whatever we can get for him would be fine.

Don't be a victim of a hot take moment.

Trust me, keep those for later.

[GTR11]

TimeTrash, Allen, Vuc, Capela have nothing on what Nic doing right now.

3-4 years ago I was getting killed for saying Nic is better than Allen.

[GTR11]

Believe me when I say that Sumner will be a problem in a year or two. This kid can play.

[GTR11]

Kyrie can be ruthless

[therealbig3]

I'd look to move Simmons for pretty much anything honestly. Don't think he's any good, so whatever we can get for him would be fine.

Don't be a victim of a hot take moment.

Trust me, keep those for later.

He sucks, and he always has.

It's not a hot take, he's proved me right. Never thought he was good.

[GTR11]

I'd look to move Simmons for pretty much anything honestly. Don't think he's any good, so whatever we can get for him would be fine.

Don't be a victim of a hot take moment.

Trust me, keep those for later.

He sucks, and he always has.

It's not a hot take, he's proved me right. Never thought he was good.

Give it another minute. A lot can happen before now a than.

[TheNetsFan]

I feel like Portland would be a good fit as a trade partner. Curry for Hart (expiring for expiring) would add some perimeter size for us and give them some tax breathing room. Simmons would be an interesting fit with Dame and Simons, and if they fear their ability to retain Grant and/or Hart in free agency, they can roll the dice on Simmons being better a year removed from surgery while stealthily tanking this year and retain their lottery protected 1st rounder.

[sashaturiaf]

I feel like Portland would be a good fit as a trade partner. Curry for Hart (expiring for expiring) would add some perimeter size for us and give them some tax breathing room. Simmons would be an interesting fit with Dame and Simons, and if they fear their ability to retain Grant and/or Hart in free agency, they can roll the dice on Simmons being better a year removed from surgery while stealthily tanking this year and retain their lottery protected 1st rounder.

Sign me up, Josh Hart would be a great get. He's a power guard who can guard and hit open 3s, he'll give us 25 good minutes a game easily. The physicality and out of position rebounding he'd bring is something we just don't have atm.

Seth and two second round picks for Josh Hart get it done.

[Papi_swav]

Good thread. I have no idea what Nets will do but they must do something because we definitely have a shot at a title. All those trades are really good and fair for both teams. I would really love Josh Hart, he can defend 1-3 and he plays much bigger than he is, he brings that toughness and rebounds well for a smaller player and can fit with the starters or bench.

DFS would be awesome too, so would Jae Crowder. We absolutely need another 2 way player and most the guys you named are. Joe Harris/Seph and Patty are all exactly the same player so we gotta get rid of one of them and replace them for a guy that can play more defense and not be a liability on offense.

I say we make a trade for one of these 2 way wing players and I think we'll sign a backup 5 in the buyout market. I just don't see Nets making any big moves like trading Ben and others to re arrange the roster at this point of the year, maybe in the offseason. I expect a minor trade or 2 which is pretty much all we need now. But we cannot do nothing and allow a contender like the Bucks, Celtics or Philly get better.

[GTR11]

Good thread. I have no idea what Nets will do but they must do something because we definitely have a shot at a title. All those trades are really good and fair for both teams. I would really love Josh Hart, he can defend 1-3 and he plays much bigger than he is, he brings that toughness and rebounds well for a smaller player and can fit with the starters or bench.

DFS would be awesome too, so would Jae Crowder. We absolutely need another 2 way player and most the guys you named are. Joe Harris/Seph and Patty are all exactly the same player so we gotta get rid of one of them and replace them for a guy that can play more defense and not be a liability on offense.

I say we make a trade for one of these 2 way wing players and I think we'll sign a backup 5 in the buyout market. I just don't see Nets making any big moves like trading Ben and others to re arrange the roster at this point of the year, maybe in the offseason. I expect a minor trade or 2 which is pretty much all we need now. But we cannot do nothing and allow a contender like the Bucks, Celtics or Philly get better.

Ujiri and Marks had lots of convversations lately and during off-season. If Curry and Joe can fetch 1st rounders, than Ben for Siakam is not out of realm.

Siakam will takes us into instant favorite even with JV as a HC.

I don't want to give up on Ben and TJ yet. For some reason my gut telling me we haven't seen best yet.

We do need stretch 4/5 who can bang or block shots. Either Curry or Joe has to go. Giving up Cam is too early imo.

[Decipher]

Here's my hot take

Joe won't fetch anything so will still be with us if it's a trade just for him

Seth gets hunted on defense but has value because he's an elite shooter plus he's an expiring who probably be won't be extended

Here's a list of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the league

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct

I can see one of the contenders/wannabes giving something up of good value for him

Maybe combine the 2 to get something which fits our needs

Now onto the elephant in the room

I am a big Simmons fan BUT he's physically not right & have no idea what's going on in his head

We're in win now mode so .....

Simmons for Turner & Duarte turns us into a defensive juggernaut

[Stone]

We all know we live and die by KD. For all this BS about him not being a leader, just look at us with him and without him. The man is still a top 5 player in league and was a strong MVP candidate. We also have a top ten player in Kyrie this season. Add to that we a legit borderline all star in Claxton.

Are we in win now mode? Yes

Will our window still be open next season? Yes.....Wide open. KD will not fall off cliff, he will be at worst a top 15 player. Kyrie is a below the rim player and those guys (CP3) last a long time in this league. If we can get Ben close to where he was we are golden. My bet is that we see more players retained over the summer than we have seen in the past.

Marks is not know to make moves at the deadline. A big part of the culture that Marks built was stability. Players want to know someone has their back. We all know this is a business and things happen we get that, but is there any player out there worth shaking everything up over? Unless there is a Kawhi (Hypothetical) move to be made.

Joe has been with us since the dawn of the Marks era. He is still shooting 40%. Would Marks want to swap Joe and Cam for Collins who is shooting 25% from three? I don't see it.

We need to give Day'Ron some more minutes and see what he can do. We got a bunch of guys who like a 100 dollar bill stashed in the wallet.

[NetsWorld]

We all know we live and die by KD. For all this BS about him not being a leader, just look at us with him and without him. The man is still a top 5 player in league and was a strong MVP candidate. We also have a top ten player in Kyrie this season. Add to that we a legit borderline all star in Claxton.

Are we in win now mode? Yes

Will our window still be open next season? Yes.....Wide open. KD will not fall off cliff, he will be at worst a top 15 player. Kyrie is a below the rim player and those guys (CP3) last a long time in this league. If we can get Ben close to where he was we are golden. My bet is that we see more players retained over the summer than we have seen in the past.

Marks is not know to make moves at the deadline. A big part of the culture that Marks built was stability. Players want to know someone has their back. We all know this is a business and things happen we get that, but is there any player out there worth shaking everything up over? Unless there is a Kawhi (Hypothetical) move to be made.

Joe has been with us since the dawn of the Marks era. He is still shooting 40%. Would Marks want to swap Joe and Cam for Collins who is shooting 25% from three? I don't see it.

We need to give Day'Ron some more minutes and see what he can do. We got a bunch of guys who like a 100 dollar bill stashed in the wallet.

Agreed about Sharpe; but Sharpe is not a stretch five. There is no reason the Nets can't squeeze out a stretch athletic big for cheap. The Lakers got Huchimara for a bargain, and they are a team that should start rebuilding. My guess is Marks is getting pressured by opposing GM's with high asking prices. one of Harris/Curry has to go. Each has their own problem, Curry is to small against the Bucks and Celtics and they can easily stop him whereas Harris is inconsistent. If you get rid of one for a stretch big, it helps immensely.

[MrDollarBills]

How can we get Naz Reid is my question. He would be the perfect fit

[sashaturiaf]

How can we get Naz Reid is my question. He would be the perfect fit

Wolves just went all in on Gobert in an attempt to contend and they're currently in the playoff picture in the West, so I question why Naz Reid would be available in the first place.

Only reason could be that they don't want to overpay for his next contract, but if that's the case wouldn't they want a cost controlled 5 who can slide into Reid's place? that's not something we can offer unless if they really like Sharpe

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't really trust Jae Crowder anymore. Guy is a head case.

If there is a way to get Naz Reid or Mo Bamba I do it.

Also what about Mason Plumlee?

Hes a great rebounder and defender. Could help a lot as a backup.