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What would it take to get.... 

Post#1 » by Krazykiwi » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:47 pm

Pascal Sikaim from the Raptors? I think if the Nets can get him to pair up with KD, the Nets are a very strong contender. Maybe
Cam Thomas( I think he will be a star soon, just 21 years old)
Ben Simmons
Royce Oneal

two first rounders or maybe if desperate offer 3 first rounders. The Nets have surplus of picks from The Sixers and Mavs, also their own picks. pull that trigger!
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Post#2 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:59 pm

Krazykiwi wrote:Pascal Sikaim from the Raptors? I think if the Nets can get him to pair up with KD, the Nets are a very strong contender. Maybe
Cam Thomas( I think he will be a star soon, just 21 years old)
Ben Simmons
Royce Oneal

two first rounders or maybe if desperate offer 3 first rounders. The Nets have surplus of picks from The Sixers and Mavs, also their own picks. pull that trigger!

Ben Simmons is not getting moved. He has no value right now. You're probably looking at Harris + Cam + Royce/Curry/DFS + picks. Siakam would be a nice add, but I don't know if he's a great fit. We're forward heavy right now, and could really use more perimeter scoring.
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Post#3 » by Krazykiwi » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:02 pm

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Krazykiwi wrote:Pascal Sikaim from the Raptors? I think if the Nets can get him to pair up with KD, the Nets are a very strong contender. Maybe
Cam Thomas( I think he will be a star soon, just 21 years old)
Ben Simmons
Royce Oneal

two first rounders or maybe if desperate offer 3 first rounders. The Nets have surplus of picks from The Sixers and Mavs, also their own picks. pull that trigger!

Ben Simmons is not getting moved. He has no value right now. You're probably looking at Harris + Cam + Royce/Curry/DFS + picks. Siakam would be a nice add, but I don't know if he's a great fit. We're forward heavy right now, and could really use more perimeter scoring.



Dwinddie can help with the Perimeter scoring. I would make that move, the Nets have too many decent players now just one star. need one more star, and the nets still have a very deep team.
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Post#4 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:04 pm

Krazykiwi wrote:Pascal Sikaim from the Raptors? I think if the Nets can get him to pair up with KD, the Nets are a very strong contender. Maybe
Cam Thomas( I think he will be a star soon, just 21 years old)
Ben Simmons
Royce Oneal

two first rounders or maybe if desperate offer 3 first rounders. The Nets have surplus of picks from The Sixers and Mavs, also their own picks. pull that trigger!


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Post#5 » by GYK » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:52 pm

Idk but it’s a desperate need. Not to just be a contender but to keep Durant. Probably take both Pascal and Trent. Even with both that’s gonna take an all time playoff run from Durant and JV coaching.
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Post#6 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:02 pm

Does overpaying for Siakim even make us serious contenders in the East?

I mean hes guy but he was AWFUL in the bubble vs Boston. This isn't some bonafide star.

I would give up Simmons, Cam and picks. Anything more than that and its not worth it.

I think were basically cooked at this point.

Maybe we should have just taken the Lakers offer and tried to rebuild.
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Post#7 » by Lachiebkn » Tue Feb 7, 2023 1:03 am

I think if we can put a package together around Simmons seth and cam Thomas and 3 frp for siakim and Boucher. That team of

Pg din
Sg dfs
Sf kd
Pf siakim
C - clax

Bench of - Royce harris mills sumner warren watanabe

Make another move for a back up centre.

That roster is on par with any team in the league and would be top 5 for defence and top 10 for offence.
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Post#8 » by Krazykiwi » Tue Feb 7, 2023 7:49 am

if we can't get Siakam, what about Derozan? Cam Thomas, Ben Simmons and a first rounder for Derozan?
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Post#9 » by Decipher » Tue Feb 7, 2023 9:15 am

Krazykiwi wrote:if we can't get Siakam, what about Derozan? Cam Thomas, Ben Simmons and a first rounder for Derozan?


Perennial playoff failure DeRozan?

That guy?

Fun fact

Head-case Simmons has been the best player in more playoff series than DeRozan, FVV, Beal & LaVine combined
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Post#10 » by Lachiebkn » Tue Feb 7, 2023 9:34 am

I kind of agree. I don’t think we move all the firsts unless it’s for siakim. The rest don’t move the needle enough for us
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Post#11 » by Lachiebkn » Tue Feb 7, 2023 10:46 am

Decipher wrote:
Krazykiwi wrote:if we can't get Siakam, what about Derozan? Cam Thomas, Ben Simmons and a first rounder for Derozan?


Perennial playoff failure DeRozan?

That guy?

Fun fact

Head-case Simmons has been the best player in more playoff series than DeRozan, FVV, Beal & LaVine combined



I just had a quick look at Simmons career stats compared to this seasons. If you normalise minutes he’s doing pretty much exactly what he did in every other year in all categories except scoring. He is 7 points down on his usual output.

It makes me think that’s virtually 5 more attempts per game for him to be back to his normal all star Ben numbers. I know at times it looks like he has no intention of getting to the basket and score, but the times he does he’s been usually pretty successful at it.

Is it possible that he is just not fully recovered from
his back surgery along with his nagging knee injuries are the real reason for his lack of attacking the basket? Confidence in your body affects confidence in your game.

Should we be selling low on Ben? I mean he only needs to make up 7 points to be back to his usual output.
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Post#12 » by Decipher » Tue Feb 7, 2023 12:00 pm

Left field idea if KD is unhappy

KD for LeBron straight up

LBJ would never have allowed this **** to happen on his watch & we would be instant favourites
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Post#13 » by NetsWorld » Tue Feb 7, 2023 12:14 pm

I am warming up to the idea of trading KD. We are geared more towards developing young talent and I feel like KD’s time has come and passed; the Celtics won’t be beat. If we can somehow get a plethora of picks and young talent, I’m fine with it. Does Boston consider JB for KD? I would do that trade in a heartbeat.
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Post#14 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Feb 7, 2023 12:21 pm

Lachiebkn wrote:
Decipher wrote:
Krazykiwi wrote:if we can't get Siakam, what about Derozan? Cam Thomas, Ben Simmons and a first rounder for Derozan?


Perennial playoff failure DeRozan?

That guy?

Fun fact

Head-case Simmons has been the best player in more playoff series than DeRozan, FVV, Beal & LaVine combined



I just had a quick look at Simmons career stats compared to this seasons. If you normalise minutes he’s doing pretty much exactly what he did in every other year in all categories except scoring. He is 7 points down on his usual output.

It makes me think that’s virtually 5 more attempts per game for him to be back to his normal all star Ben numbers. I know at times it looks like he has no intention of getting to the basket and score, but the times he does he’s been usually pretty successful at it.

Is it possible that he is just not fully recovered from
his back surgery along with his nagging knee injuries are the real reason for his lack of attacking the basket? Confidence in your body affects confidence in your game.

Should we be selling low on Ben? I mean he only needs to make up 7 points to be back to his usual output.

I hesitate trading Cam unless there's a follow-up trade for a guy like Clarkson or to a lesser extent Trent, but I get the notion of selling high. I get that Siakam and DeRozan are more likely to be available than others, but the ideal fit would be better from deep and be a good rebounder. Siakam is much closer to that than DeRozan. If we still pursue Collins, then you're ideal second scorer would be a perimeter guy.

While not a great rebounder, I would also look ask about Jerami Grant.
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Post#15 » by Tha King » Tue Feb 7, 2023 1:45 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:
Lachiebkn wrote:
Decipher wrote:
Perennial playoff failure DeRozan?

That guy?

Fun fact

Head-case Simmons has been the best player in more playoff series than DeRozan, FVV, Beal & LaVine combined



I just had a quick look at Simmons career stats compared to this seasons. If you normalise minutes he’s doing pretty much exactly what he did in every other year in all categories except scoring. He is 7 points down on his usual output.

It makes me think that’s virtually 5 more attempts per game for him to be back to his normal all star Ben numbers. I know at times it looks like he has no intention of getting to the basket and score, but the times he does he’s been usually pretty successful at it.

Is it possible that he is just not fully recovered from
his back surgery along with his nagging knee injuries are the real reason for his lack of attacking the basket? Confidence in your body affects confidence in your game.

Should we be selling low on Ben? I mean he only needs to make up 7 points to be back to his usual output.

I hesitate trading Cam unless there's a follow-up trade for a guy like Clarkson or to a lesser extent Trent, but I get the notion of selling high. I get that Siakam and DeRozan are more likely to be available than others, but the ideal fit would be better from deep and be a good rebounder. Siakam is much closer to that than DeRozan. If we still pursue Collins, then you're ideal second scorer would be a perimeter guy.

While not a great rebounder, I would also look ask about Jerami Grant.

I don't know if trading Thomas right now is even selling high. The only thing holding him back from being a legit 3-level scorer right now at 21 is him making C&S threes. Yes, there's a lot more he needs to add to be a legit starter but the hardest skillset in the league he's already got. He's also got the strength and quick feet to be a passable defender unlike combo guards like McCollum, Herro, Poole, etc.
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Post#16 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:04 pm

Tha King wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:
Lachiebkn wrote:

I just had a quick look at Simmons career stats compared to this seasons. If you normalise minutes he’s doing pretty much exactly what he did in every other year in all categories except scoring. He is 7 points down on his usual output.

It makes me think that’s virtually 5 more attempts per game for him to be back to his normal all star Ben numbers. I know at times it looks like he has no intention of getting to the basket and score, but the times he does he’s been usually pretty successful at it.

Is it possible that he is just not fully recovered from
his back surgery along with his nagging knee injuries are the real reason for his lack of attacking the basket? Confidence in your body affects confidence in your game.

Should we be selling low on Ben? I mean he only needs to make up 7 points to be back to his usual output.

I hesitate trading Cam unless there's a follow-up trade for a guy like Clarkson or to a lesser extent Trent, but I get the notion of selling high. I get that Siakam and DeRozan are more likely to be available than others, but the ideal fit would be better from deep and be a good rebounder. Siakam is much closer to that than DeRozan. If we still pursue Collins, then you're ideal second scorer would be a perimeter guy.

While not a great rebounder, I would also look ask about Jerami Grant.

I don't know if trading Thomas right now is even selling high. The only thing holding him back from being a legit 3-level scorer right now at 21 is him making C&S threes. Yes, there's a lot more he needs to add to be a legit starter but the hardest skillset in the league he's already got. He's also got the strength and quick feet to be a passable defender unlike combo guards like McCollum, Herro, Poole, etc.

KD is going to miss games, whether it's injury or load management. While we have a lot of complimentary 3 and/or D pieces, we need that guy that can get his own bucket when KD is out. Trading Cam is similar to trading Claxton in my eyes. You lack depth at that spot/function, so in moving him, you're plugging one hole & opening another.
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Post#17 » by Riconet » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:39 pm

Siakam would be a fantastic addition, but very expensive. The Nets probably aren't getting him without giving up Clax and 2 firsts.
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Post#18 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 5:44 pm

I ask this not to be against Siakam, as I would gladly have a player like him on my team, but for expansive discussions.

Assuming KD isn't moved, where does Siakam fit in the starting lineup?

Just started thinking of it and I'm like, where da **** does he lineup. Is he strictly a 4? a 3/4? I 100% won't support him playing the 5.
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Post#19 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Feb 7, 2023 6:17 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:I ask this not to be against Siakam, as I would gladly have a player like him on my team, but for expansive discussions.

Assuming KD isn't moved, where does Siakam fit in the starting lineup?

Just started thinking of it and I'm like, where da **** does he lineup. Is he strictly a 4? a 3/4? I 100% won't support him playing the 5.

That's why when Raptor fans on the T&T board are clamoring for Claxton in the deal, it does not make sense. Siakam would be a nice upgrade, and he & KD would be the primary 3/4s. If you trade Claxton and some guards, you're harming those positions far more than the jump from a DFS, Simmons or O'Neale to Siakam would be. While Simmons can become mostly a center in that scenario, you're downgrading there & losing his perimeter defense in the process.
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