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How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:26 pm
by dygaction
DFS was one of my favorite Mavs players and I have been paying attention to him even after the trade, but he seems to hit a big wall. In the past 16 games, he is averaging 6.8/4.9r/1.8a on .34/.28/.75 shooting. Is he in danger of losing his starting position?
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:48 pm
by Paradise
Not with this moron of a coach. Avery 2.0.
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:50 pm
by Papi_swav
Yea idk why he's still starting, O'neale is much better than him. I hope we trade him after the season and get something worthy of him.
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:10 pm
by Marvin Martian
Dude has been trash since the trade
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:24 am
by MaxZaslofskyJr
Thinking the same. I was never that impressed with Royce O'Neale but I think that I'd go with R O'N at this point (at least until DFS straightens himself out). I'll tell ya what tho'... I may take Yuta over both. He has size, things seem to happen on Offense when he is in and his D is not terrible imho (Heck, fwiw he apparently won Atlantic 10 Defensive Player of the Year)
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:20 am
by sashaturiaf
MaxZaslofskyJr wrote:Thinking the same. I was never that impressed with Royce O'Neale but I think that I'd go with R O'N at this point (at least until DFS straightens himself out). I'll tell ya what tho'... I may take Yuta over both. He has size, things seem to happen on Offense when he is in and his D is not terrible imho (Heck, fwiw he apparently won Atlantic 10 Defensive Player of the Year)
I love how it only took barely a month before we started pitting our role playing wings against each other.
This is a collection of assets and not a team, so my question stands - why are we not tanking ?
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:10 am
by dygaction
sashaturiaf wrote:MaxZaslofskyJr wrote:Thinking the same. I was never that impressed with Royce O'Neale but I think that I'd go with R O'N at this point (at least until DFS straightens himself out). I'll tell ya what tho'... I may take Yuta over both. He has size, things seem to happen on Offense when he is in and his D is not terrible imho (Heck, fwiw he apparently won Atlantic 10 Defensive Player of the Year)
I love how it only took barely a month before we started pitting our role playing wings against each other.
This is a collection of assets and not a team, so my question stands - why are we not tanking ?
The record is too good to do a good tanking job.
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:30 pm
by Keith Van Horn
I really don't mind his defense, athleticism and hustle. But he shouldn't be starting. (neither should Spencer) His shooting and spacing have just not clicked yet. Maybe it's his role, maybe it's the coach...
Ideally, a 2nd unit here this year SHOULD look like: Dinwiddie / Curry / Harris / DFS / fill in the blank big man that we don't have
Not sure if he's sticking around after this year or will be packaged in a deal...
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:57 pm
by TheNetsFan
There's a few things at play:
1) Start all the new guys so that they have at least one other guy on the court they have chemistry/experience with.
2) Royce off the bench to provide additional ball handling when Dinwiddie is out.
3) He's the closest thing to a legit power forward that we have.
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:47 pm
by gigantes
Keith Van Horn wrote:I really don't mind his defense, athleticism and hustle. But he shouldn't be starting. (neither should Spencer)
Who would you have as the starting playmaker, and why?
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:47 pm
by Marvin Martian
TheNetsFan wrote:There's a few things at play:
1) Start all the new guys so that they have at least one other guy on the court they have chemistry/experience with.
2) Royce off the bench to provide additional ball handling when Dinwiddie is out.
3) He's the closest thing to a legit power forward that we have.
Cam Johnson is 1 inch taller and about 10 pounds lighter than DFS. He would be a much better choice at PF
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:01 pm
by Keith Van Horn
gigantes wrote:Keith Van Horn wrote:I really don't mind his defense, athleticism and hustle. But he shouldn't be starting. (neither should Spencer)
Who would you have as the starting playmaker, and why?
Re - Spencer...
Oh it should be Spencer right now. I just mean in the grand scheme of things, I'd rather have Spencer as a non-starter.
As in like if we had someone like FVV.
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:13 am
by ecuhus1981
Paradise wrote:Not with this moron of a coach. Avery 2.0.
Nah fam.
This doesn't look like a JV decision at all. Royce is clearly the better 5th starter for this roster, Vaughn knows this. He is not calling this shot. This is a front office decision, they've determined that the main players we received in return for 7/11 will start the remainder of the season. Only 3 of them are starting by merit. The attempt was to shine up his trade value, but it's back firing.
I do believe DFS is a legit starter in this league, but he was struggling before the trade, and he's REALLY struggling now. He came up big in our 2 biggest wins recently, but otherwise he's been a mess in both sides of the ball. Starting is starting to rattle him.
Re: How is DFS still starting?
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:16 am
by ecuhus1981
Marvin Martian wrote:TheNetsFan wrote:There's a few things at play:
1) Start all the new guys so that they have at least one other guy on the court they have chemistry/experience with.
2) Royce off the bench to provide additional ball handling when Dinwiddie is out.
3) He's the closest thing to a legit power forward that we have.
Cam Johnson is 1 inch taller and about 10 pounds lighter than DFS. He would be a much better choice at PF
Correct.
CJ looks like a 3, and he can play the 3 just fine. But it's at the 4 spot where he really provides value. He can use his off ball footwork to create separation for corner 3's when bigs have to chase him. And despite his size, he can hold his own on defense against 4's.