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Jason Collins and Jamaal Magloire are becoming more valuable around the league by the day, and it has nothing to do with their basketball skill!

The truth is, many teams are looking to unload quality veteran bigman in exchange for the cap relief that our pair of bigmen would provide. Two specific examples stick out to me from fielding Trades forum offers, and I'd like to know how our fans feel about them. These are deals that have been mutually agreeable, and don't involve any of our youngsters. They are:

Sacramento - Miller for Collins, Magloire and a NJ 1st-rounder

and

Chicago - Wallace, Gray, Curry, Nichols and a CHI 2nd-rounder for Collins, Magloire and Nachbar

Neither, Ben is old, out of shape and gets paid WAAAAAAAAAAAy too much and Brad is really just meh.

Ben Wallace to help out now and help out Boone and Williams.

For two years we have a nice rotation of bigs:

Krstic / Boone
Wallace / Williams

Universe wrote:Ben Wallace to help out now and help out Boone and Williams.

For two years we have a nice rotation of bigs:

Krstic / Boone
Wallace / Williams

what about Bens contract

I rather have miller.

Makes Kristic expendable. We can use him + whatever else as trade bait. Pending Kristic can come back even 80-85% of himself.

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what about Bens contract

It expires when Kidd's expires and having the big three, we have no room to sign big name talent anyways.

isekii wrote:I rather have miller.

Makes Kristic expendable. We can use him + whatever else as trade bait. Pending Kristic can come back even 80-85% of himself.

no i don't think so. i'd rather have krstic because if theyre similar then why would we give up a first to have two guys on the team. and your only problem with saying it makes krstic expendable is that his 1.9 million salary can't net us that great of a player because you already traded our best two salary chips away in the miller deal, also teams don't like the fact of taking in a player coming off knee surgery and is in his contract year.

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It expires when Kidd's expires and having the big three, we have no room to sign big name talent anyways.

That's actually not true.

Wallace's lasts a year longer than Kidd's. THAT'S why Chicago is kind of desperate to move that contract; it really hurts them because they're trying to extend Luol and Gordon, while remaining a factor in the big FA hunt in '09.

Adam1221 wrote:Neither, Ben is old, out of shape and gets paid WAAAAAAAAAAAy too much and Brad is really just meh.

Ben's not "out of shape". Why do you say that? His nickname is "The Body" & he's in better shape than most of his teammates

After this year, Ben is owed $28.5 million for 2 years. He's overpaid - but that amount of $$ is not outrageous when compared to other NBA deals

Ben plays major minutes in every game & has not had a major injury.

As for old: Ben is 33 - and will be almost 36 when the contract expires

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That's actually not true.

Wallace's lasts a year longer than Kidd's. THAT'S why Chicago is kind of desperate to move that contract; it really hurts them because they're trying to extend Luol and Gordon, while remaining a factor in the big FA hunt in '09.

Actually Ben's contract fits nicely in Chicago's financial plan. It expires just when LeBron, Wade & Bosh become FAs.

Bulls have the money to extend Gordon & Deng - but will not pay them the wages that they want since both are asking above market rate.

Bulls are not looking for the 09 market. they are waiting for LeBron or Wade in the 2010 market

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That's actually not true.

Wallace's lasts a year longer than Kidd's. THAT'S why Chicago is kind of desperate to move that contract; it really hurts them because they're trying to extend Luol and Gordon, while remaining a factor in the big FA hunt in '09.

Damn sorry I was thinking about when LeBrons ended haha.