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WHY IT WORKS FOR THE NETS?

1. They are forced to trade Kidd and try to rebuild. But how can you truly rebuild with two huge, long term contracts to Carter and Jefferson? There is no way you can fit Carter into your long term plans. Therefore, the only way Kidd trade makes sence, is if they trade Carter as well. And since no one wants Carter, the only way to trade him is for soon to be expiering contract of a player no one wants. Player you are going to vaiwe.

2. They get a nice and cheap peace of theair rebuilding team with Balkman.


WHY IT WORKS FOR THE KNICKS?

1. Knicks desperatly need scoring small forward. Both Richardson and Jeffries have been a disater while Balkman is not a shooter. Playing at his natural position, and being focus of the offence, Carter will play much better.

2. It doesent really ruin Knicks cap flexibility because Knicks were not going to be under the cap anyway, untill some other players contracts expire.

3. They get a decent big man, who would be their 4th best player at PF/C position. In case any of the Lee, Randolph or Curry get injured, Magloire would be an important part of the rotation and he is on expiering contract.

4. Zeke knows that his coaching/GM carrear is over unless Knicks make the playoffs. So even if this is not a good long term deal, Zeke would be likely to do it, in order to extend his carrear with the Knicks.

give us the 08 pick (unprotected) and i'll do it

...why

why would you bring this garbage here.

GET OUT!

halfHAVOC wrote:...why

why would you bring this garbage here.

GET OUT!

isn't marbury an expiring ?

halfHAVOC wrote:...why

why would you bring this garbage here.

GET OUT!

Thank you for your hospitality. I am sure Thorn wouldbe happy to take this deal. This would be the only way inevitebale Kidd makes sence, because you can not rebuild with Carter on the roster. Team likely to decline this deal would be the Knicks. Even though they are very likely to buy out Marbery.

Marbery contract would be expiering next season while Carter contract would last for 4 and a half years. Which is the reason Knicks would rather buy out Marbery for one year than take Carter (who they like) for 4 more years.

Doctor. wrote:WHY IT WORKS FOR THE NETS?

1. They are forced to trade Kidd and try to rebuild. But how can you truly rebuild with two huge, long term contracts to Carter and Jefferson? There is no way you can fit Carter into your long term plans. Therefore, the only way Kidd trade makes sence, is if they trade Carter as well. And since no one wants Carter, the only way to trade him is for soon to be expiering contract of a player no one wants. Player you are going to vaiwe.

2. They get a nice and cheap peace of theair rebuilding team with Balkman.


WHY IT WORKS FOR THE KNICKS?





1. Knicks desperatly need scoring small forward. Both Richardson and Jeffries have been a disater while Balkman is not a shooter. Playing at his natural position, and being focus of the offence, Carter will play much better.

2. It doesent really ruin Knicks cap flexibility because Knicks were not going to be under the cap anyway, untill some other players contracts expire.

3. They get a decent big man, who would be their 4th best player at PF/C position. In case any of the Lee, Randolph or Curry get injured, Magloire would be an important part of the rotation and he is on expiering contract.

4. Zeke knows that his coaching/GM carrear is over unless Knicks make the playoffs. So even if this is not a good long term deal, Zeke would be likely to do it, in order to extend his carrear with the Knicks.

congrats you win the most stupidest trade award

Watching Marbury back in a NETS Jersey would be painful , no way in hell I want this **** back .

Doesn't matter rebuild or not but Marbury just brings bad chemistry and trouble , he's not helping in any way .

Why don't you bring Alonzo Mourning along side Marbury back just to seal the deal

Doctor. wrote:WHY IT WORKS FOR THE NETS?

And since no one wants Carter, the only way to trade him is for soon to be expiering contract of a player no one wants. Player you are going to vaiwe.

Please read the post before you answer. No one said that Marbury would ever play for the Nets. He would be vaiwed right after the trade. The only reason Nets would do this is in order to create cap capability that will eable them to sign top free agents within a year and a half.

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Please read the post before you answer. No one said that Marbury would ever play for the Nets. He would be vaiwed right after the trade. The only reason Nets would do this is in order to create cap capability that will eable them to sign top free agents within a year and a half.

Kidd has the same contract length. That itself voids your reason.

What does Kidd contrect lenth has to do with it? You can not compare Kidd who has been hear and soul of this team and Carter who has under performed. Carter contract would not be a problem if he was performing up to his potential.

Carter's value isn't the greatest, but if you are going to trade Vince in a deal where NJ doesn't get any expirings, you have to do better than Renaldo Balkman.

Its funny. Guys on both Knicks and the Nets board think its a bad trade for their team. I dont know if its a good trade for the Knicks. Short term it is a good trade, but long term its certanly a bd trade. But when the Nets are consearned, I have no doubts that its a good trade.

You cant simpley look through who are you geting and who are you loosing, but you have to focus on the direction of the team. We do know that Kidd trade is imenent. And that trade and the obvious rebuilding proces that follows only makes sence if Carter is traded as well. And since no one wants Carter on his current contract, you practicly have to give him away. So for the Nets, this trade is not about geting anything perticular, it is about loosing Carter and his contract in order to be able to move forward.

Why it works for the Nets:
- Marbury is the best point guard in the NBA
- Balkman is Antoine Wright with more hype

Why it works for the Knicks:
- They get a real shooting guad
- They get an upgrade at the center position

Sign me up!

I don't see how this gives us direction at all. You take a cancer in marbury. Just a scrapster with no discernable skill set in balkman.

what direction do you see in this deal? Marbury expires. Fine. Balkman is just a cheap contract. Outside that we just become an even worse team which makes are cap space less useful because noone will want to play for us unless we overpay for a player worth less. Maybe a decent business move. Bad basketball move. As a fan and not an owner, obviously i care more about the basketball.

MAG'S is not an upgrade over Curry. The dude can't even get PT in Centerless Jersey??

The trade sucks for both teams. Carter has regressed into Jamal Crawford and Magilla has become Michael Olawacandi with less injuries.

Carter has more worth than Jamal and do you really want Steph and Kidd coexisting. The guys hate each others guts and IF Stephs own teammates can't tolerated him, how will kidd deal with him

Please read the entire post before you reply. Marbery WOULD NOT PLAY for the Nets. He would be bought off. Even if Kidd is traded, Marbury would still likely be vaiwed as well.

The key thing is that Nets would be under the cap before their move to Brooklyn and will have quite a few good peaces by that time:

Jefferson.
Certain lottery pick next season.
Posibale lottery pick this season.
Players they get back for Kidd.
Solid pospects they alrady have in Boone, Williams, Krstic, Nachbar and Wright.
And finally a top free agent.

Doctor. wrote:What does Kidd contrect lenth has to do with it? You can not compare Kidd who has been hear and soul of this team and Carter who has under performed. Carter contract would not be a problem if he was performing up to his potential.

My mistake. I thought this was another Kidd for Marbury thread.

I still don't go for it. You're going to have to throw in more young talent than Balkman besides a few years shaven off a big contract even if we cut Marbury.

You don't think other teams would mind throwing us shorter contracts and a pick/prospect? Things a lot more enticing than Balkman, who is very clearly a career role player?

If I could pick, I would have taken Robinson. That way, Nets would have two players to cover for SG position. But since I feel that Knicks would not agree to this deal, I wanted to create as apealing deal for the Knicks as posibale. I would go as far as trading Carter and Magloire for Marbury and Morris. And it would still be a no brainer for the Nets, while I am still not sure if Knicks would do it.

Even though Carter is still a very solid player and can help (short term) most of the teams in the NBA, I am not sure if anyone would be interested to take him for nothing on the current contract.

We don't want your garbage & Ya'll don't want our garbage.