Season Ending Awards

Post #1 » by **jerseyjac** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:41 pm

Most valuable player
1. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
2. Chris Paul, New Orleans Hornets
3. Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
4. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
5. Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic

Defensive player of the year
1. Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
2. Marcus Camby, Denver Nuggets
3. Josh Smith, Atlanta Hawks

Rookie of the year
1. Kevin Durant, Seattle Supersonics
2. Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks
3. Luis Scola, Houston Rockets

Sixth man of the year
1. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
2. Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks
3. Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix Suns

Most improved player
1. Rudy Gay, Memphis Grizzlies
2. Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic
3. Mike Dunleavy Jr., Indiana Pacers

Coach of the year
1. Doc Rivers, Boston Celtics
2. Byron Scott, New Orleans Hornets
3. Rick Adelman, Houston Rockets

Executive of the year
1. Danny Ainge, Boston Celtics
2. Mitch Kupchak, Los Angeles Lakers
3. Billy Knight, Atlanta Hawks

Notes:
Its difficult to keep Chris Paul off Def player of yr... in a very close run he comes in second for the MVP, but for the record CP could easily win DPY being the steals leader and a great one on one guard defender...I felt Josh needed some recognition...KG is the heart and sole of Boston's defense and Camby a monster on the def. glass as well as the block leader...

Most Improved I also liked Jose Calderon, upping his asts by I believe more than 3...ect...

jeff1624 · Post #2 » by **jeff1624** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:39 pm

MVP

Chris Paul
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett

ROY

Al Horford
Kevin Durant
Al Thorton

DPOY

Kevin Garnett
Marcus Camby
Tim Duncan

COY

Rick Adelman
Byron Scott
Doc Rivers

6th man

Manu Ginobili
Leandro Barbosa
Jason Terry

MIP

Hedo Turkoglu
Rudy Gay
LaMarcus Aldridge

Executive Of The Year

Danny Ainge
Daryl Morey
Mitch Kupchak

vincecarter4pres · Post #3 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:26 pm

Thats an interesting one with Lamarcus Aldridge. I think a lot of people wouldn't even think of him in that spot, but yet he is deserved of recognition.

MVP
1. Chris Paul
2. Kobe
3. KG
4. Lebron
5. Caron Butler

DPOY
1. KG
2. Sheed
3. Josh Smith
4. Camby
5. Dwight Howard

ROY
1. Al Horford
2. Kevin Durant
3. Luis Scola

6xth Man
1. Ginobli!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(said doing best Barkley impression)
2. Jason Terry
3. JR Smith

MIP
1. Rudy Gay
2. Mike Dunleavy
3. Lamarcus Aldridge

COY
1. Byron Scott
2. Rick Adelman
3. Doc Rivers
4. Eddie Jordan
5. Flip Saunders

EOY
1. Ainge
2. Mitch
3. Thorn(I'm sorry, but for what he got for Kidd, I don't care what our record turned out to be, he deserves the honorable mention.)

VCRJKidd15 · Post #4 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:46 pm

i hate seeing doc rivers even considered as COY when a monkey could even lead this team to 55+ wins

MrDollarBills · Post #5 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:54 pm

I'm confident that we could have had a monkey as the head coach of a certain team that plays in New Jersey and they might have made the playoffs.

Cruzeirao · Post #6 » by **Cruzeirao** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:56 pm

Most valuable player
1. Chris Paul, New Orleans Hornets
2. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
3. Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
4. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
5. Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic

Defensive player of the year
1. Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
2. Shanne Battier, Houston Rockets
3. Josh Smith, Atlanta Hawks

Rookie of the year
1. Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks
2. Kevin Durant, Seattle Supersonics
3. Luis Scola, Houston Rockets

Sixth man of the year
1. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
2. Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks
3. Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix Suns

Most improved player
1. Rudy Gay, Memphis Grizzlies
2. Mike Dunleavy Jr., Indiana Pacers
3. Rajon Rondo, Boston Celtics

Coach of the year
1. Byron Scott, New Orleans Hornets
2. Phil Jackson, Los Angeles Lakers
3. Rick Adelman, Houston Rockets

Executive of the year
1. Danny Ainge, Boston Celtics
2. Mitch Kupchak, Los Angeles Lakers
3. Billy Knight, Atlanta Hawks

The list from JJ is very good. I just changed some names.

I thought until last year, that Marcus Camby was a great defender.
Since AI went there, not so much. Maybe it's because AI makes everyone worst... Look Melo now... He was the leading scorer of the NBA. Now he just "show when he wants".
Look Sixers... They are back in the playoffs.
This season proved how overrated AI is.

I don't think that Paul's defense is so good. But he is the MVP. His ofense is great and he is having the best season of a point guard in 10 years.
Amazing season.

Doc Rivers is not a good coach. Him winning this season would be like Sam Mitchel last year. COY chould be at least a good one, with a great season.
Byron Scott is the COY. I can't believe that i didn't liked him. Frank is so worst.

S.I.C. GM · Post #7 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:08 pm

I totally disagree with you guys about Doc Rivers.

The guy can coach. His first few years in Boston was hard. If it wasnt for this year, Ainge has given Rivers headaches with his moves. Remember that Orlando team. I watched those games just to see what would happen. He had NO stars and they came close to making the playoffs.

He just doesnt deserve to be COY this year. You add KG and Allen you would have to be FRANK to make it to the playoffs.

dacher · Post #8 » by **dacher** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:07 pm

MVP: KG

DPOY: KG

6th Man: Manu

MIP: Paul

Coach: Scott

GM: Ainge

bank it!

jeff1624 · Post #9 » by **jeff1624** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:25 am

^^I don't think Paul wins MIP. He was a top 5 PG in the league last year AND he had one of the bets rookies seasons for a PG ever. It's only natural that he'd become this good.

Turkoglu wins it IMO.

SpeedyG · Post #10 » by **SpeedyG** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:35 am

Most valuable player
1. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers - going from where he was in the off-season to where he's at now, I give him props for that.

Defensive player of the year - everyone likes to give this to KG, and yes he's a good defender but I don't know if I can give it to him. His blocks #s decreased this year (though rightfully so since he plays less minutes) but I honestly think Boston's defensive turnaround has more to do with the improvements of Rondo and Perkins, both of which are very good defenders from their position (along with the return of Tony Allen).

Rookie of the year
1. Kevin Durant, Seattle Supersonics - I want to give this to Horford, because he practically single-handedly carried and manned that Hawks frontcourt and allowed them to get to the playoffs for the first time in so long (10 years maybe?). But Durant has the stats, and Horford does not. BTW, JJ, didn't you remember me saying during the draft that I'd trade Nenad straight up for Horford? We'd be in the playoffs right now wreaking havoc had a deal like that been made in the off-season.

Sixth man of the year
1. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs - Manu is sick. Not sure he can be considered a 6th man though, since he does move in and out of the starting lineup, but I can't argue here.

Most improved player
1. Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic - Hands down MIP player IMO. Improved every aspect of his game and is a major contributor on one of the top teams in the East.

I'll give nods to Kaman, then Gay.

Coach of the year
1. Eddie Jordan, Washington Wizards - I was a big fan of EJ and was hoping we canned Scott sooner to make him the head man. A year without Gil, parts without Butler, and look where they are at now. Heckuva coaching job IMO.

Executive of the year
1. Danny Ainge, Boston Celtics - Agreed. I thought the Ray Allen deal was brilliant, even though a lot of people blasted it at the time. They didn't have enough foresight to see what Ainge was doing, which was making the Celtics attractive to KG, and that he did. Ainge laughs at you Stephen A. Smith. Ainge laughs at you.

Post #11 » by **jerseyjac** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:54 pm

VCRJKidd15 wrote:i hate seeing doc rivers even considered as COY when a monkey could even lead this team to 55+ wins

I dont care who he has...

best single season turn around ever...best record in the NBA...

Post #12 » by **jerseyjac** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:10 pm

Cruzeirao wrote:Most valuable player
1. Chris Paul, New Orleans Hornets
2. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
3. Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
4. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
5. Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic

Defensive player of the year
1. Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
2. Shanne Battier, Houston Rockets
3. Josh Smith, Atlanta Hawks

Rookie of the year
1. Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks
2. Kevin Durant, Seattle Supersonics
3. Luis Scola, Houston Rockets

Sixth man of the year
1. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
2. Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks
3. Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix Suns

Most improved player
1. Rudy Gay, Memphis Grizzlies
2. Mike Dunleavy Jr., Indiana Pacers
3. Rajon Rondo, Boston Celtics

Coach of the year
1. Byron Scott, New Orleans Hornets
2. Phil Jackson, Los Angeles Lakers
3. Rick Adelman, Houston Rockets

Executive of the year
1. Danny Ainge, Boston Celtics
2. Mitch Kupchak, Los Angeles Lakers
3. Billy Knight, Atlanta Hawks

The list from JJ is very good. I just changed some names.

I thought until last year, that Marcus Camby was a great defender.
Since AI went there, not so much. Maybe it's because AI makes everyone worst... Look Melo now... He was the leading scorer of the NBA. Now he just "show when he wants".
Look Sixers... They are back in the playoffs.
This season proved how overrated AI is.

I don't think that Paul's defense is so good. But he is the MVP. His ofense is great and he is having the best season of a point guard in 10 years.
Amazing season.

Doc Rivers is not a good coach. Him winning this season would be like Sam Mitchel last year. COY chould be at least a good one, with a great season.
Byron Scott is the COY. I can't believe that i didn't liked him. Frank is so worst.

thanx...

CP is tough defender...plays the lanes well...pick pockets like a thief...he has to be considered...check Marcus Camby's def #'s...def-boards ect...the numbers speak for themself...thats why I through Josh Smith in there...but KG is the easy pick, talk about help defense, ect......I dont think he's ever won it...

some fans dont appreciate a Doc Rivers...for one reason or another...I cant lie, I'm a big fan, not saying he's the best coach in the league, but he got that group to play together at an elite level...including the complimentary pieces and role players; that team is primed and ready to make serious run..some look at it as easy...I look at it as a huge accomplishment from a coaching viewpoint...dont take anything for granted in today's NBA...you cant take a night off, the competition is through the roof...and he got the job done better than most expected...

and to piggy back off what you said, Mo Cheeks deserves some votes for the coaching job he got done in Philly...

Post #13 » by **jerseyjac** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:42 pm

jeff1624 wrote:^^I don't think Paul wins MIP. He was a top 5 PG in the league last year AND he had one of the bets rookies seasons for a PG ever. It's only natural that he'd become this good.

Turkoglu wins it IMO.

The Numbers:
Rudy Gay:
fg% up 4...ft% up 5.8...rebs up 1.7, asts. up .7, stls up .6, pts up 9.3

Hedo Turkoglu:
fg% up 3.7...3pt % 1.2..ft% 4.8..rebs up 1.7..asts up 1.8..pts up 6.2

Both have 6 categories significantly up from the previous year...pretty much evenly matched, but when you get to points per game, Rudy has the bigger jump (all in less minutes), IMO that clinches it...but if Turk won it, I would have no gripes...

Post #14 » by **jerseyjac** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:54 pm

SpeedyG wrote:Most valuable player
1. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers - going from where he was in the off-season to where he's at now, I give him props for that.

Defensive player of the year - everyone likes to give this to KG, and yes he's a good defender but I don't know if I can give it to him. His blocks #s decreased this year (though rightfully so since he plays less minutes) but I honestly think Boston's defensive turnaround has more to do with the improvements of Rondo and Perkins, both of which are very good defenders from their position (along with the return of Tony Allen).

Rookie of the year
1. Kevin Durant, Seattle Supersonics - I want to give this to Horford, because he practically single-handedly carried and manned that Hawks frontcourt and allowed them to get to the playoffs for the first time in so long (10 years maybe?). But Durant has the stats, and Horford does not. BTW, JJ, didn't you remember me saying during the draft that I'd trade Nenad straight up for Horford? We'd be in the playoffs right now wreaking havoc had a deal like that been made in the off-season.

Sixth man of the year
1. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs - Manu is sick. Not sure he can be considered a 6th man though, since he does move in and out of the starting lineup, but I can't argue here.

Most improved player
1. Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic - Hands down MIP player IMO. Improved every aspect of his game and is a major contributor on one of the top teams in the East.

I'll give nods to Kaman, then Gay.

Coach of the year
1. Eddie Jordan, Washington Wizards - I was a big fan of EJ and was hoping we canned Scott sooner to make him the head man. A year without Gil, parts without Butler, and look where they are at now. Heckuva coaching job IMO.

Executive of the year
1. Danny Ainge, Boston Celtics - Agreed. I thought the Ray Allen deal was brilliant, even though a lot of people blasted it at the time. They didn't have enough foresight to see what Ainge was doing, which was making the Celtics attractive to KG, and that he did. Ainge laughs at you Stephen A. Smith. Ainge laughs at you.

Kobe wins this...Never been a Jordan fan...Never really been a Kobe fan due to his attitude/peronality on and off the court...but pure basketball, he is the second coming of Jordan no matter what way you add it up...He's accomplished everything in the West this year obviously with the needed supporting cast...best record in the West...Kobe wins it...correct me if I'm wrong, Kobe has never won this award...

Durant...numbers game here, yeh he wins it...but Horford adding that much to a playoff team, averaging almost a double-double in his rookie season...is sick...and yes, I remember you talking about Horford and I remember how I was saying you and everyone else was overrating the kid...I was definitely wrong...Horford is a beast at his age...(yo jeff, DR baby...)

No way EJ is winning it but I definitely see your perspective...its almost the same concept as Aldeman for COY.... but yeh I would of liked seeing him stay as the head coach of the Nets, by far the better coach and right now he looks that much better...and dont forget Rutgers baby!...

and yeh...lol, Ainge is laughing in Stephen A's face...(big mouth...)

jeff1624 · Post #15 » by **jeff1624** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:04 pm

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I'd give it to turkoglu basically because He upped his average in every single category except for steals while being the 2nd best player for a 50+ wins team. Some didn't even think he would start this season let alone avg 19,6,5 when his career avg is 11,4,2.

Gay deserves it too, I just hope Rondo doesn't win it.

Post #16 » by **jerseyjac** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:36 pm

jeff1624 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I'd give it to turkoglu basically because He upped his average in every single category except for steals while being the 2nd best player for a 50+ wins team. Some didn't even think he would start this season let alone avg 19,6,5 when his career avg is 11,4,2.

Gay deserves it too, I just hope Rondo doesn't win it.

I definitely agree w/ the above, it is a strong arguement...like I said, no problems with Turk winning...on Turk's game mind set alone, being the go to guy in the end of games for the Magic, I'd give him the award on that improvement...I just wanted Rudy to get his props as a soph on a non-playoff team...

no comment on my DR comment...and your boy Mr. Puerto Plata?

Post #17 » by **jerseyjac** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:37 pm

and btw, Rondo aint winning it...CP would before him...

jeff1624 · Post #18 » by **jeff1624** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:55 pm

jerseyjac wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I definitely agree w/ the above, it is a strong arguement...like I said, no problems with Turk winning...on Turk's game mind set alone, being the go to guy in the end of games for the Magic, I'd give him the award on that improvement...I just wanted Rudy to get his props as a soph on a non-playoff team...

no comment on my DR comment...and your boy Mr. Puerto Plata?

lol...WTF??

Post #19 » by **jerseyjac** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:03 pm

jeff1624 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

lol...WTF??

you disappoint me... :noway:

jeff1624 · Post #20 » by **jeff1624** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:09 pm

Ohhhhhh Al horford.... :lol:

I hadn't read your response to speedy....

DR baby!!!

Al Horford the REAL Rookie Of the Year.