The Yi dynasty begins...

[YounGunnCam9395]

Yi jianlian aka the beast from the far east...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWjYi7hfJMw&feature=related

[Preludepunk27]

I honestly really like Yi. He's still high risk/high reward. He's got good fundamentals and for a 7 footer is pretty athletic. Honestly, when you get drafted that hi, people expect you to make an immediate impact. A lot of people compare him to Dirk and, if you compare their rookie year stats, Yi is basically right on par with Dirk in his rookie year. We made this trade based on his huge upside and his marketability in the New York market. If he ever gets to even a fringe all star level (basically a 7 foot version of RJ), he'd bring out team a whole new revenue stream on top of paying dividends on the court.

And like I'll keep saying, Bobby Simmons is not that bad. If healthy, he's only a few notches below RJ. They're similar players. RJ was just more consistent. With CDR now, I actually think by midseason he'll be the starter anyway.

Regardless, we have about 30 guys in our front court now and Marcus who is never gonna get playing time so I know we're not done this offseason. With moving RJ out of town, I'd push hard now to move Stro/fillers for Al Harrington (I know some guys hate him here but I love him). With RJ gone, he can start at the 3 where he fits better, add some length to that position and be solid. He also comes off the books in 2010 to free up more space.

[MnM_McgradyMing]

Yi is not good enough to begin a dynasty.

[Preludepunk27]

You're mental. There aren't many kids who can start a dynasty at 20 years old. We're well aware of that.

I'm gonna go insane with all the homer trolls hanging here for the next few weeks.

[Diggr14]

he isnt 20. He is 24. It's well documented... outside of the bogus Chinese claims he is 20.

[Preludepunk27]

...it's also well disputed still.

[YI9]

Hey Buck fan here,

I like Yi a lot. I think he's going to be good but I don't think he'll be Dirk-like. The one thing that he really needs to work on is his hands. He gets stripped pretty easily and seems to have a problem grabbing the ball when its lose on the floor or fighting for a rebound. I think that will come in time when he strengthens up a bit.

As for Simmons, well he's garbage. For the guy that thinks he's just a notch under RJ, well he's smoking something good. He will bring nothing to the table except a nice jumper every once in a while. He's slow and inconsistent.

I think Yi will be good but not a Dynasty type player. He does have a sweet jumper for a 7-footer.

[dacher]

I hope he likes his move and it helps him do well.

Brooklyn has a big Chinatown (as well as Queens and Manhattan). New Jersey also has a big Chinese-American community. Where else can you say that in the USA!

[Adam1221]

Bah.
Its not happening people I hate being the bringer of bad news but Yi looks like a soft bust and Thorn will finally learn how it feels to get raped in a trade.
I would love to eat my words but its not happening Im afraid

[Preludepunk27]

Hey Buck fan here,

I like Yi a lot. I think he's going to be good but I don't think he'll be Dirk-like. The one thing that he really needs to work on is his hands. He gets stripped pretty easily and seems to have a problem grabbing the ball when its lose on the floor or fighting for a rebound. I think that will come in time when he strengthens up a bit.

As for Simmons, well he's garbage. For the guy that thinks he's just a notch under RJ, well he's smoking something good. He will bring nothing to the table except a nice jumper every once in a while. He's slow and inconsistent.

I think Yi will be good but not a Dynasty type player. He does have a sweet jumper for a 7-footer.

You have a skewed outlook on Bobby Simmons. He's battled injuries since the day he went to the Bucks. Add that to the large contract and the fact your team has been a lottery team for a while the majority of the decade and all that adds to the frustration. It's similar frustration Net fans had with Jason Collins. You forget, Simmons was a solid contributor on a Clippers team who was as worthless as the Bucks have been. Simmons is not a bad player. Is he worth is contract? Well I think you overpaid to begin with but again that add's to your fanbase's distaste for the kid but he is better than you give him credit for.

[60cent]

As for Simmons, well he's garbage. For the guy that thinks he's just a notch under RJ, well he's smoking something good. He will bring nothing to the table except a nice jumper every once in a while. He's slow and inconsistent.

You're just saying that maybe because you had never seen him play when he was with the Clippers. FYI, he was the former 6th man of the year his last year in Clippers. And when you guys signed him, then he started having health problems. I still think he got overpaid but he was a solid player. I just hope with the next two years with him here in NJ, he will be free of any of injuries like VC.

[Preludepunk27]

As for Simmons, well he's garbage. For the guy that thinks he's just a notch under RJ, well he's smoking something good. He will bring nothing to the table except a nice jumper every once in a while. He's slow and inconsistent.

You're just saying that maybe because you had never seen him play when he was with the Clippers. FYI, he was the former 6th man of the year his last year in Clippers. And when you guys signed him, then he started having health problems. I still think he got overpaid but he was a solid player. I just hope with the next two years with him here in NJ, he will be free of any of injuries like VC.

^^^^^ Agreed. Am I OK with him being the only SF on the roster considering RJ plays the 2 pretty much all the time now)? No, but I think we'll address that with another trade (I still want Al Harrington). But Bucks fans sell him short. He played well at the end of last year. If he stays healthy I'll be completely fine with him coming off the bench and starting on occassion.

[Stone]

I think Prelude hit the nail on head in his first post. Yi = High risk/High reward. I think it was a good move on our part because if he does turn into something special it will take time and were in a rebuilding mode so timing is everything. Also, let me eleborate on why I feel like the "Marketing" end of this deal is important. Were losing money not being able to fill the stands and that is part of the reason why we haven't made deals. This could bring in more revenue and give us some flexability in the next few years before we get to Brooklyn.

[Preludepunk27]

I think Prelude hit the nail on head in his first post. Yi = High risk/High reward. I think it was a good move on our part because if he does turn into something special it will take time and were in a rebuilding mode so timing is everything. Also, let me eleborate on why I feel like the "Marketing" end of this deal is important. Were losing money not being able to fill the stands and that is part of the reason why we haven't made deals. This could bring in more revenue and give us some flexability in the next few years before we get to Brooklyn.

Also, even though he doesn't need a whole lot of help, if we ACTUALLY landed Lebron, being on a team with a guy who is already incredibly marketable to 1 billion people couldn't hurt Lebron's plan to become a "global entity" like he stated a year or two ago. Again, he doesn't need a lot of help, but a few billboards in China with Lebron and Yi on it will pay huge dividends to the organization. Throw some Rocawear digs on them and Jay-Z can start liquifying money and drinking it.

[YI9]

Hey Buck fan here,

I like Yi a lot. I think he's going to be good but I don't think he'll be Dirk-like. The one thing that he really needs to work on is his hands. He gets stripped pretty easily and seems to have a problem grabbing the ball when its lose on the floor or fighting for a rebound. I think that will come in time when he strengthens up a bit.

As for Simmons, well he's garbage. For the guy that thinks he's just a notch under RJ, well he's smoking something good. He will bring nothing to the table except a nice jumper every once in a while. He's slow and inconsistent.

I think Yi will be good but not a Dynasty type player. He does have a sweet jumper for a 7-footer.

You have a skewed outlook on Bobby Simmons. He's battled injuries since the day he went to the Bucks. Add that to the large contract and the fact your team has been a lottery team for a while the majority of the decade and all that adds to the frustration. It's similar frustration Net fans had with Jason Collins. You forget, Simmons was a solid contributor on a Clippers team who was as worthless as the Bucks have been. Simmons is not a bad player. Is he worth is contract? Well I think you overpaid to begin with but again that add's to your fanbase's distaste for the kid but he is better than you give him credit for.

I don't have a skewed outlook, I have a recent outlook. Yes, he was a very good bench player in LA, I was so happy when we signed him. But because of his injury to his foot, he's horrible. He has no lift on his jumpshot, he's very slow on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball. Hey, if he can get back to his form in LA, they yes you have a good player. But its highly unlike since its been 3 years since he's shown any promise of a good player.

[cam2win]

LMAO at the people trying to make Bobby out to be a real player. He was a salary throw in on this deal and nothing more. He has a sweet jumper from the corner but his injuries the past couple years have completly stripped him of any mobility. The guy is a foul machine, even his first year in Mil when he was sort of healthy.

He battled personal issues last year and maybe that declined his game some and he hated our coaching which showed in his play. Maybe he'll be slightly better than he was here if he's happier but to the guy that said he's just under RJ...wow. You guys made this deal based on Yi's potential...and the fact you can get rid of Bobby to make a run at Lebron.

Good luck this year Nets fans. We'll have a vested interest in you now with Yi and Milwaukee native Devin Harris.

[Preludepunk27]

LMAO at the people trying to make Bobby out to be a real player. He was a salary throw in on this deal and nothing more. He has a sweet jumper from the corner but his injuries the past couple years have completly stripped him of any mobility. The guy is a foul machine, even his first year in Mil when he was sort of healthy.

He battled personal issues last year and maybe that declined his game some and he hated our coaching which showed in his play. Maybe he'll be slightly better than he was here if he's happier but to the guy that said he's just under RJ...wow. You guys made this deal based on Yi's potential...and the fact you can get rid of Bobby to make a run at Lebron.

Good luck this year Nets fans. We'll have a vested interest in you now with Yi and Milwaukee native Devin Harris.

Now before I say this, I'm not pointing you out solely, but this is the reason I sometimes can't stand other teams coming to the board to put their 2 cents in. I know you mean well and all because the deal affects us both...but the comment I highlighted takes what I said GROSSLY out of context. The way you phrase it, you make it sound like getting a poor man's RJ like I expect the guy to drop 18, 3, 3 a night. "Just under RJ" and "a few notches below RJ" are completely different. RJ is a fringe all-star every year. Hell no would I expect that out of Simmons. But if we go into the season with him as the starting 3 guard, it's not wild and outlandish to see him average 14, 4, and 4 a game.

Regardless, we'll probably pick up another SF at some point this free agency and have him come off the bench where I'm sure he'll be fine.

[old rem]

It's a salary dump. Yi can be okay and has some tools but he's not gonna be a near All Star. Simmons job mostly is to expire but he might have a bit of comeback.

Warriors won't trade Harrington to get Swift....won't want or use Swift but MAYBE the deal is for someone else and Swift is merely the nessecery cap fill.....which in recent years has been his role wherever he's been. Nelson likes that Al is a 4 that is also our best % 3 shooter. I think GSW would trade him,but not for just scrap. Harrington's deal isn't extreme or long. Not sure what the Nets have that GSW would have much need for.

[drew881]

LMAO at the people trying to make Bobby out to be a real player. He was a salary throw in on this deal and nothing more. He has a sweet jumper from the corner but his injuries the past couple years have completly stripped him of any mobility. The guy is a foul machine, even his first year in Mil when he was sort of healthy.

He battled personal issues last year and maybe that declined his game some and he hated our coaching which showed in his play. Maybe he'll be slightly better than he was here if he's happier but to the guy that said he's just under RJ...wow. You guys made this deal based on Yi's potential...and the fact you can get rid of Bobby to make a run at Lebron.

Good luck this year Nets fans. We'll have a vested interest in you now with Yi and Milwaukee native Devin Harris.

Now before I say this, I'm not pointing you out solely, but this is the reason I sometimes can't stand other teams coming to the board to put their 2 cents in. I know you mean well and all because the deal affects us both...but the comment I highlighted takes what I said GROSSLY out of context. The way you phrase it, you make it sound like getting a poor man's RJ like I expect the guy to drop 18, 3, 3 a night. "Just under RJ" and "a few notches below RJ" are completely different. RJ is a fringe all-star every year. Hell no would I expect that out of Simmons. But if we go into the season with him as the starting 3 guard, it's not wild and outlandish to see him average 14, 4, and 4 a game.

Regardless, we'll probably pick up another SF at some point this free agency and have him come off the bench where I'm sure he'll be fine.

You've got Serpo posting over on our board too, so its natural that posters come over after a trade and look at what is going on.

I will chime in about Simmons though. You may get your 14, 4 and 4 from him, but it will be a sluggish, boring 14,4 and 4 in which the other teams SF will at least equal that production. Bobby has clearly lost a step, and tries to make up for that with his "quick hands" slapping players in the lane trying to get steals. It looks great when it works, but 80 percent of the time he is getting burned and the frontcourt has to make up for it. Bobby makes sense for you guys though: he is an expiring deal in time for Lebron. You should start making some there can only be one ads right now with Bobby Simmons and Lebron.

I'll say this though, if he trims down his weight and comes back, I won't hold anything against Simmons. Its just that he did nothing for us after signing in Milwaukee, which was horrible for Bucks fans since we really never make any FA signings. He was one of the first players to sign with us as an unrestricted, so this is definitely a reason fans are so sour on him.

[WRau1]

Hey Buck fan here,

I like Yi a lot. I think he's going to be good but I don't think he'll be Dirk-like. The one thing that he really needs to work on is his hands. He gets stripped pretty easily and seems to have a problem grabbing the ball when its lose on the floor or fighting for a rebound. I think that will come in time when he strengthens up a bit.

As for Simmons, well he's garbage. For the guy that thinks he's just a notch under RJ, well he's smoking something good. He will bring nothing to the table except a nice jumper every once in a while. He's slow and inconsistent.

I think Yi will be good but not a Dynasty type player. He does have a sweet jumper for a 7-footer.

You have a skewed outlook on Bobby Simmons. He's battled injuries since the day he went to the Bucks. Add that to the large contract and the fact your team has been a lottery team for a while the majority of the decade and all that adds to the frustration. It's similar frustration Net fans had with Jason Collins. You forget, Simmons was a solid contributor on a Clippers team who was as worthless as the Bucks have been. Simmons is not a bad player. Is he worth is contract? Well I think you overpaid to begin with but again that add's to your fanbase's distaste for the kid but he is better than you give him credit for.

The only good thing about Simmons is that he will protect your streets from Hookers. I don't know why but for some reason Bobby hates hookers more than anything. Theres about 30 documented cases of Bobby punching hookers while in Milwaukee and I can only imagine with all the hooker in the NJ area Bobby will be like a kid in the candy store. Make sure that man tapes his hands.