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I'm still iffy on this one myself, but I've been fooling around in trade checker.

Nets Trade - Swift/Marcus/Boone (Swift and Marcus alone, wouldn't get it done)
Warriors Trade - Al Harrington

Harris/VC/Harrington/Yi/Lopez

GS gets a potential starting PG in Marcus (if he's improving) to replace Baron Davis. They get expiring contract of Swift and a good young big in Boone.

Thoughts?

Honestly, if that was our starting 5, I'd start Yi at the 3 and Harrington at the 4...at least that's how we'd line up offensively. Defensively, I'd put harrington on the quicker player at the 3 or 4.

Problem here is, I like this deal but wish we could nap a young kid from GSW as well like Marco Bellineli. He is a SG (deadly too) and it looks like they want Monta to be a full time SG so Marco is never really gonna get a chance to be more than a bench player with them. If we're giving up 2 solid prospects and Also saving some cash since stro is an expiring, I'd try my hardest to nab Marco too.

The reason why I don't want Harrington is because between Harrington, Vince, and Harris there aren't going to be enough shots for the young players. If you saw Harrington play for the Hawks you'd see what I mean, he's kind of a mini-blackhole at times...

*Note I'd also throw KVH's contract into that deal so that the Warriors rather than the Nets would have to buy him out. The buyout amount is probably small but still...

^^^^ Honestly, first worry about the youngs getting consistant before worrying about the amount of touches they're getting. We don't have a #2 scoring option on our roster right now (if someone says Harris is, I'll laugh out loud) so, yes I agree 100% that harrington isn't my #1 choice anymore, but I wouldn't be totally against it. I'd personally still explore going after Nocioni/prospect for a package we have. Nocioni is a better defender, solid shooter and hustle's his tail off. Granted, he's not a #2 scoring option either, I just don't see ANY of our youngins developing into a consistant 2 in this season. I'm hoping one will in the 2009-2010 season but I'm more concerned with putting a team on the floor this season that isn't completely worthless yet still gives us our flexibility in the summer of 2010. Problem is, there aren't a lot of guys I've read about who are available and fit out needs.

I don't know I've always believed that the best way to learn is through doing, and I think that's where the Nets have gone wrong with some of their recent draft choices. Sometimes you just have to throw guys in the fire and let them learn from their in-game mistakes.

It's a personal preference though so you're free to disagree with me.

Nah I can agree with you to a certain extent. That's what we did with Kmart. But Kmart was the most NBA ready player we've drafted this decade basically. Even RJ was just a reserve his first year. I like having some decent Vets starting at least at the beginning of the season but have the rooks be the first guys off the bench. See which ones make the most of their time on the court and increase their work load accordingly. But then at all-star break, I would make the decision whether we push for the playoffs or start playing our youngins more to see how they've developed. Normally after the all-star break, all teams play harder for the playoff push so if they can show improvement and consistancy then, I'm pretty sure they'll stick with us just fine. Playing them right off the bat is similar to how Sean was last season. We put him in early on in the season and he was producing a double double every other game, but then teams took notice and adjusted to him and he almost became a non-factor by the all-star break. A guy like Boone has basically started each season he's been here as worst guy in our front court, but worked his tail off every time he was given a chance and by the end of the past 2 seasons has been a starter or 1st big man off the bench. I feel watching the vets and learning from them is just as important as actually playing.

But honestly, there are pros and cons to both our philosophies. If Frank took your approact, I'd be totally fine with it. Just if it was my team, I'd handle it differently.

yes, Yi and Harrington would obviously alternate between the 3/4 positions.

My logic was we don't have a "starting 3/4" right now and Harrington fits the bill. It makes us more dynamic and lessens the blow of losing RJ by replacing him with someone such as Harrington. Harrington, while sometimes "shot-happy," can keep the defense honest and make it easier on VC.

My problem with Nocioni is his contract and his lack of a diverse game. He's a hard-nosed player who can occasionally knock down a shot -- similar to Najera, but better. We need scoring and rebounding, 2 things Harrington does pretty well.

Diaw for Stromile and Marcus Williams and a second round. Anyone like?

I'm all for Harrington coming to the Nets...I think there is more than enough shots to go around for everyone...
this would be interesting...but take out Simmons and insert whoever you want at Center, because Al would be playing the 4 w/ Yi at the 3...lets get this done Rod...I would be very comfortable going into the regular season...and I think Al with a bigger role at this stage of his career would increase his production...
Harris
Carter
Simmons
Yi
Harrington

sd1306 wrote:Diaw for Stromile and Marcus Williams and a second round. Anyone like?

I am actually extremely high on Boris. I think 99.9% of net fans are not unfortunately. Even with that said, I'd pass on this every day of the week due to the length of Diaw's contract.

Preludepunk27 wrote:

sd1306 wrote:Diaw for Stromile and Marcus Williams and a second round. Anyone like?

I am actually extremely high on Boris. I think 99.9% of net fans are not unfortunately. Even with that said, I'd pass on this every day of the week due to the length of Diaw's contract.

I like him. We just have enough 3s.

Simmons/Najera/Hassell/Anderson/CDR

All five of those guys we can't trade since we just recently signed all of them. I definitely don't want to see him back in the backcourt like he was playing in Atlanta. We just don't have a spot for him.

G_MoNeY wrote:Nets Trade - Swift/Marcus/Boone (Swift and Marcus alone, wouldn't get it done)

I have had discussion with several GSW fans on the subject of Harrington, and they all said that they would be happy to move him for just Swift/Marcus. Still, I wouldn't do that deal; AL is much more of a PF than a SF, and we have more than enough PFs on the team.

If the Warriors really wanted to break things up and get in better financial shape to re-sign Ellis and Biedrins, I would do a Stephen/Al for Swift/KVH/Marcus/Boone/Ager deal.

ecuhus1981 wrote:

G_MoNeY wrote:Nets Trade - Swift/Marcus/Boone (Swift and Marcus alone, wouldn't get it done)

I have had discussion with several GSW fans on the subject of Harrington, and they all said that they would be happy to move him for just Swift/Marcus. Still, I wouldn't do that deal; AL is much more of a PF than a SF, and we have more than enough PFs on the team.

If the Warriors really wanted to break things up and get in better financial shape to re-sign Ellis and Biedrins, I would do a Stephen/Al for Swift/KVH/Marcus/Boone/Ager deal.

Yeah but they would not. Surprisingly Stephen Jackson has become the leader of that team.

ecuhus1981 wrote:

G_MoNeY wrote:Nets Trade - Swift/Marcus/Boone (Swift and Marcus alone, wouldn't get it done)

I have had discussion with several GSW fans on the subject of Harrington, and they all said that they would be happy to move him for just Swift/Marcus. Still, I wouldn't do that deal; AL is much more of a PF than a SF, and we have more than enough PFs on the team.

If the Warriors really wanted to break things up and get in better financial shape to re-sign Ellis and Biedrins, I would do a Stephen/Al for Swift/KVH/Marcus/Boone/Ager deal.

Warriors are in fine financial shape to re-sign those guys

Maybe we could do Harrington and Mobley from the clips in three way?

NW wrote:Warriors are in fine financial shape to re-sign those guys

I'm not suggesting that the Warriors CAN'T re-sign Ellis and Biedrins. I'm saying that this deal would give them alot of breathing room to do so. And as I mentioned in another thread, this proposal would give the Warriors enough capspace to make one of the three remaining semi-available elite RFAs (Deng, Smith, Okafor) up to a max offer. Even if they didn't land one of these, they could still execute a TPE deal a la Marcus Camby. It's a risk, but it could be huge dividends for both the Nets and Warriors.

ecuhus1981 wrote:

NW wrote:Warriors are in fine financial shape to re-sign those guys

I'm not suggesting that the Warriors CAN'T re-sign Ellis and Biedrins. I'm saying that this deal would give them alot of breathing room to do so. And as I mentioned in another thread, this proposal would give the Warriors enough capspace to make one of the three remaining semi-available elite RFAs (Deng, Smith, Okafor) up to a max offer. Even if they didn't land one of these, they could still execute a TPE deal a la Marcus Camby. It's a risk, but it could be huge dividends for both the Nets and Warriors.

Warriors could have done that before signing Maggette. Those guys are most likely going to re-sign barring overpaying them ridiculous to where their current teams won't match.

Chances of a Camby deal are slim - at least not for a player worth taking on salary like that. I'm fine with some form of Harrington deal, but adding Jax takes mre than it gives.