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Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:23 am
by heir_jordan22
would you guys be willing to do Hughes for Bobby Simmons. you could use hughes as a third guard or even start him at the SG with VC at SF
Is this something you would consider doing?
if that's not sweet enough we could add a pick or cash
Harris/Hughes
VC/Hughes/CDR
Hayes/Najera
Jianlian/Swift
Lopez/Williams
OR
Harris/Hughes
Hughes/VC/CDR
VC/Hayes/Najera
Jianlian/Swift
Lopez/Williams
Re: SImmons for Hughes trade
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:56 am
by heir_jordan22
If anybody has anything to say about Hughes for Simmons trade could you post it in the Bulls section under "Perfect offseason plan"? Thanks in advance.
Re: SImmons for Hughes trade
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:00 pm
by LBJ TO BK 08
done deal.
Re: SImmons for Hughes trade
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:59 pm
by RJ 24
LBJ TO BK 08 wrote:done deal.
Are you kidding me? Why would we trade a pretty big expiring for Larry Hughes and his obese contract?
The deal is undone.
Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:10 pm
by Rich Rane
RJ 24 wrote:LBJ TO BK 08 wrote:done deal.
Are you kidding me? Why would we trade a pretty big expiring for Larry Hughes and his obese contract?
The deal is undone.
Their contracts actually expire the same year (looking at shamsports.com). Hughes has the bigger contract, but is also the bigger expiring. A lot of factors go in here...both players have suffered from past injuries. Do we help Chicago in the LeBron sweepstakes by giving them the more injured player? What if Simmons is healthy and helps entice LeBron by even just a little? It's more complicated than at first glance.
Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:32 pm
by heir_jordan22
Bulls fan here
would you guys do a trade around Noc for Simmons. Noc's contract is frontloaded so you pay him less ever year. we could also add in Gooden for Hassel/Swift if that makes more sense to you guys. Or maybe Gordon for Hassel
so the possible trades are
Noc for Simmons
Noc + Gooden for Simmons + Hassel
Noc + Gordon for Simmons + Hassel + protected 1st rd pick
Harris
VC/CDR/Hassel
Noc/Hayes/Najera/Hassel
Jianlian/Swift/Boone
Lopez/Williams/Boone
OR
Harris
VC/CDR/
Noc/Hayes/Najera
Jianlian/Gooden/Swift/Boone
Lopez/Williams/Boone
OR
Harris/Gordon
VC/Gordon/CDR
Noc/Hayes/Najera/Hassel
Jianlian/Swift/Boone
Lopez/Williams/Boone
of course Simmons has TR so the package deals would have to wait until late August ( 23rd ? )
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 6:26 pm
by LBJ TO BK 08
id rather take nocci over hughes
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 6:42 pm
by heir_jordan22
so which of the three trades involving Noc works best for Nets?
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 6:50 pm
by LBJ TO BK 08
noone knows... its not like we are pulling strings in the nets maangement down here
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 6:54 pm
by heir_jordan22
i meant what do ythe fans think would be the best trade and if it is actually possible
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:09 pm
by LBJ TO BK 08
me personally... i like nocci and good for hassell and simmons straight up... i dont see how it could benefit the bulls tho...expiring contracts?
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:13 pm
by Rich Rane
LBJ TO BK 08 wrote:me personally... i like nocci and good for hassell and simmons straight up... i dont see how it could benefit the bulls tho...expiring contracts?
Yeah great, we trade for a long contract (even if it is frontloaded) and another big who will hinder our young guys.
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:21 pm
by heir_jordan22
Gooden expires after this season so you don't even have to give him big minutes and he is a good mentor so he will help your young bigs.
if Gooden is an absolute no then how about Noc + Gordon for Simmons +Hassel + protected 1st rd pick since we would only get contracts in this trade while you get two starting calibur players that can help you get to the playoffs
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:28 pm
by Rich Rane
(deleted your double-post)
heir_jordan22 wrote:Gooden expires after this season so you don't even have to give him big minutes and he is a good mentor so he will help your young bigs.
You're not familiar with Lawrence Frank, are you?
if Gooden is an absolute no then how about Noc + Gordon for Simmons +Hassel + protected 1st rd pick since we would only get contracts in this trade while you get two starting calibur players that can help you get to the playoffs
Think about why you'd want to trade both Noc/Gordon/Gooden. Those reasons may be the same for us wanting to get rid of our big contracts for picks/young talent.
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:39 pm
by heir_jordan22
no not Gooden, just Noc+Gordon for Simmons+Hassel+pick
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:42 pm
by Rich Rane
heir_jordan22 wrote:no not Gooden, just Noc+Gordon for Simmons+Hassel+pick
Either way, we're not looking for these types of deals. We're looking for the same things the Bulls are looking for. That's exactly why we're not the best trading partners this offseason.
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Thu Aug 7, 2008 5:04 pm
by MrDollarBills
Gordon wants a new deal that the Nets arent going to pay because Ratner is shamming most of us on here to believe that we are going to break the bank for Lebron or some other big name FA come 2010 when the arena in brooklyn won't even have the ground broken for construction, and by then the team will continue to bleed ridiculous amounts of money. Ideally, making a trade for Gordon and Nocioni would make this team extemely better on both sides of the ball, but i cant see the Bulls doing it nor Rod Thorn having the permission from Ratner to give BG a new contract.
Re: Bulls-Nets Trades
Posted: Thu Aug 7, 2008 9:18 pm
by heir_jordan22
okay, how about Hughes + Ben Gordon for Simmons + Hassel + pick
this gives the Nets a big expiring to help sign Lebron in 2010 and Gordon, who would be a 3 pt shooter that Lebron would love