SIC RANTS (Merged)

[S.I.C. GM]

As much as I am for this team losing as many games as possible. There are some things that just PISS ME OFF!

THE DEFENSE

First, that BS zone that Frank makes these guys play is killing this team.

I maybe wrong on this one.

Isnt zone defense more suited for teams that dont shoot 3s?

Zone defense busters are three point shooters. I would think if the Gs are jacking up 3s on your zone. YOU DONT USE THE ZONE!!!!!!

Second, I dont know if it is the F'EN DEFENSE, most likely it is not, VC is pissing me off with this LOSING his MAN $HIT!!!!

Third, Yi is completely off in the Defense. I really think this is because of Frank's BS Defensive Strategies. I dont think he knows WHO to guard. At the end of the game, Lopez and Yi didnt know who they were guarding. Was Lopez guarding Z or Varejo? Who was Yi guarding?

[6_Rings]

nice rant

[Birth of the Cool]

Well the Zone is to hide defensive weaknesses but I see it also as a way for Frank to "rest" Harris & VC since they expend so much energy on offense and then w/ the normal no-paint rule Frank has the backcourt has to expend alot of energy on D also - so using Zone let's the backcourt "float" more and also can hide some weaknesses in the Nets frontcourt defense.

but yeah a good way to bust a zone is a) have offense run through the middle of the paint (ft line area) or with ball movement that should open up 3 pt shots...but even if Frank didn't go Zone his no-paint rule lends itself to daring teams to beat you with the long ball also - so either way Frank's defensive philosophy is always defend the paint first.

well the VC thing - he does tend to jump in the paint for help defense to early for my liking (alot of his fouls coming from help d in the paint) and because of this he is late in getting back to perimeter D - I tend to think he's just following Frank's request but at the same time if you get burned a few times you should learn maybe stay a 1/2 foot, foot closer to perimeter.....but no excuse for the Cav's game, he was cheating on screens and playing lazy over screens - that upset me as much as his bad shot selection that game but it was his first really bad game (had 1/2 bad game vs Hawks).

I think I made a comment back in the Olympics but Yi was constantly getting lost on defensive rotations in Zone Defense - and it really showed vs Cavs. I thought he had improved but yesterday he kept rotating to the wrong spot in Zone D and had to be prodded by teammates to get to the right spot. I haven't noticed it since the Olympic games until yesterday but maybe I wasn't paying attention.

against the Raps the focus on D has to be Bosh so a 2-3 zone defense against Bosh and hope that Kapano and the likes will be cold - or use the playoff D of man-to-man in the block with guard "zoning" that area and biting hard when bosh makes a move inside & force raps to make good ball movement to swing it to opposite side.

Have to remember alot of these guys are still getting to know each other - for all intensive purposes this is still a very young/raw team - outside of Pacers/Cavs game they are playing better than expected...

[S.I.C. GM]

Well the Zone is to hide defensive weaknesses but I see it also as a way for Frank to "rest" Harris & VC since they expend so much energy on offense and then w/ the normal no-paint rule Frank has the backcourt has to expend alot of energy on D also - so using Zone let's the backcourt "float" more and also can hide some weaknesses in the Nets frontcourt defense.

but yeah a good way to bust a zone is a) have offense run through the middle of the paint (ft line area) or with ball movement that should open up 3 pt shots...but even if Frank didn't go Zone his no-paint rule lends itself to daring teams to beat you with the long ball also - so either way Frank's defensive philosophy is always defend the paint first.

I understand, but I would rather lose with the guys getting abused in the paint so they can learn. Covering it up is going to help them. Harris also needs to improve his D. So this is way hurt in the long run and clearly it isnt helping either. As for defending Paint first, i dont like it either. I would rather have someone score 2 points then 3. I wouldnt double either. After watching many years of Jordan and Shaq, it is always the open man the kills you the most ala Robert Horry. I would rather have an opponent's best guy score 50-100 pts on me then to have a bench or role player score at will.

[jerseyjac]

for the record, I was never a fan of zone defense...it can be effective, but I think Frank utilizes it too much...

[Da big3]

Mite as well makes this the S.I.C and Da Big3 rant

frank is the WORST coach, with all this talent, u cant blame the thunders coach theyre not that good, he is the worst,

who the f comes out the half and allow 3consecutive 3pters and not have any offensive plans

idk what offense we even run, dont know who guards who, this guy dosnt play the rookies, and live through their mistake, Frank is Lost

te knicks have a winning record it isnt because they are good, but D'antoni, knows wat the f**k hes doin

aside from VC, Harris, Anderson, Brook and Swat this team has played inconsistent, this guy Frank is garabage, how does he coach, he dosnt knw what it means to be a player...

[Birth of the Cool]

I understand, but I would rather lose with the guys getting abused in the paint so they can learn. Covering it up is going to help them. Harris also needs to improve his D. So this is way hurt in the long run and clearly it isnt helping either. As for defending Paint first, i dont like it either. I would rather have someone score 2 points then 3. I wouldnt double either. After watching many years of Jordan and Shaq, it is always the open man the kills you the most ala Robert Horry. I would rather have an opponent's best guy score 50-100 pts on me then to have a bench or role player score at will.

I agree with you. I'm just stating why Frank utilizes the defenses he does. It's his 'philosophical' defensive train of thought.

He does try though...even putting soft fullcourt defense just to kill a few more seconds on the shotclock which fits with his no paint rule defense since the train of thought is offenses will have less time to go inside , then outside & rotate the ball to the open man. He also gets his guards to funnel offensive drives baseline - at that point it's up to the bigs & onwards to keep rotating to the proper spots.

I see this big & mostly athletic frontcourt (Lopez, Boone, SWat, Anderson, Yi, Swift) and there is just a natural defensive presence already there - Lopez is great to slow down paint attack where a aggressive athletic partner can take advantage of this & be there for help D.

Nets are a good example of what your saying - teams shift or double on VC/Harris and guys like Yi/Anderson/Simmons/Hayes can just live off hitting wide open 3's. At the NBA level for me too many guys from 1-2-3 and heck even 4 positions can hit 3's if they are open...with the Nets you almost dare a team to be cold from outside. I say use the bigs we have and play man-to-man to start every game and mix it up from there depending on personnel on the floor / matchups. Problem w/ the Cavs is there is now way your keeping LeBron out of the paint on man-to-man D - so you're either fouling him in the paint or collapsing anyways & he's a good passer too...

I also think on a purely psychological wave that when an opposing team keeps hitting 3's on you it just takes so much air out of your step because you always feel like your playing catchup - you saw how the Hawks practically gave in after the 3pt barage in the 3rd.

Hey - I even hate to play zone on the playground. It tends to take away Defensive aggression imo.
Unfortunately I don't see it changing anytime soon.

[Nets9]

The Zone defense was to protect the paint from guys driving in for lay ups... the miami games we played alot of zone to prevent wade from penetrating.. but when they start hitting 3's .. we lost..

I want to see one on one defense not to much zone... and block out... the 3's killed the zone D...

[crazykidd2k6]

You can't blame everything on Lawrence Frank eventhough I do think he is an idiot...The fact is our front court is too weak to have man to man D so he is force to play the zone. Zone D is prolly the most efficient way to play D. It clogs the paint, it close out driving lanes, and covers the top part of the 3 point line. However its still has some holes, you can easily break these defense down by putting a spot up shooter in the side or just controlling the tempo. Zone Defense is good for the Nets and we do need to use this Defense style Alot because it does help conserving energy and we do need to let our to conserve energy because the way we play our offense However, using this D only work at a time when you shut down the shooters from the opposing team. After you do that, that is when you start playing this zone. The problem is Frank doesn't know when to use his plays so the defense that we NEVER WORKS.

[S.I.C. GM]

I agree with the zone is to protect the paint, but I dont think the zone is working either. It is making players like Harris and VC lazy on the defense. Before Zone players had to MAN UP. This nonsense about players not exerting themselves is a double edged sword.

I want to see our rooks play man to man. Even if they get burned I dont care. That is how you learn to play the game. It is not like we are winning these games.

[crazykidd2k6]

The only way we play man D more and for the zone D to work is for Frank to trust our bench and let them play more minutes. These also helps in comeback situations.

[jerseyjac]

The Zone defense was to protect the paint from guys driving in for lay ups... the miami games we played alot of zone to prevent wade from penetrating.. but when they start hitting 3's .. we lost..

I want to see one on one defense not to much zone... and block out... the 3's killed the zone D...

we've lost a lot of games because of this/Frank & his love for the zone...

[S.I.C. GM]

This is for all the people that have jumped on the FRANK for COY bandwagon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/awards?page=awards-081209

Have you changed your mind after this terrible Knicks game? I can accept losing to any other team, because I understand this years situation. BUT to LOSE to the Knicks at home. I CANNOT accept this.

Frank you are an IDIOT. Just because you are above .500 hasnt changed my mind. YOU still do stupid mistakes. I hope you take a lesson from D'Antoni. He schooled you on SMALL BALL. You never play the other teams OWN game. They are an offensive, NO Defense especially in the paint, TEAM.

WHY????? Didnt Lopez have more PT in the 2nd half????? Yeah he was getting double teamed. That is the whole point. We have a better shooting team. The dribble and drive isnt the only way to get the ball to open shooters. Even if he was messing up,especially by not passing out of the double, keep him in there to learn NOW. Another wasted LOSE.

As much as I dont want to play Hassell, if Frank was trying to win this game, why didnt he play Hassell. You put Boone and Najera in street close only to not play Hassell when you need to throw the kitchen sink at Harrington.

One more thing, I know OPIE is responsible for LETTING harris LOSE, but Frank needs discipline him too. Frank is showing why he is a players coach. Yeah Harris is starting to be the Main Guy, but teach him how to play his position. Yeah he needs to score but he also needs to pass the ball too. If he cant, we might have to move him to the SG and get a pure PG with an OUTSIDE shot. Frank didnt know how to handle Kidd, VC and RJ. Harris is going to be here for awhile. Frank shouldnt give him bad habits NOW.

[G_MoNeY]

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[Revolutionistt]

Im sorry but for real whats the big deal about Jerry Sloan and being in the same spot for 20 years??? I mean doesnt that make him look worse since hes never won anything after being there for so long?

[G_MoNeY]

Sloans teams for the most part have been competitive each year, especially in the Stockton/Malone days. He's a good coach, but one could argue he can't get them over the hump; just like Carlisle in Indiana and Detroit.

[SteveNets15]

Frank was doing so good with the rotations the past couple of games to.What the hell happened frank? The 4th quarter should always end being the starting lineup because those are your best players.We should of played are style and not try to adjust to theirs. BAD GAME FRANK lets shake this one off and get another win vs toronto friday.And this would've been a great match up for Swat against Al harrington and tim thomas because he's mobile enough to keep up with them.I hope swift is hurt PLAY SWAT!!! develop are young talent and stop playin these bums.We are rebuilding so stop falling in love frank please for the sake of the Nets organization.

[NetsForce]

I just think that the team need to learn how to play defense... And enough with SWAT - Sean Williams.

He's been absolute garbage this year. He basically goes out there and picks up 3 fouls in 3 minutes, and that's it.

He's not blocking shots like last year or intimidating the other team...

[S.I.C. GM]

Im sorry but for real whats the big deal about Jerry Sloan and being in the same spot for 20 years??? I mean doesnt that make him look worse since hes never won anything after being there for so long?

Are you comparing Frank to Sloan?

Sloan is a very good coach that isnt starstruck. He is a hard nose coach that has a system. Defense first. Bottomline. Whatever players he gets, that is the game plan. FRANK still doesnt know the Identity of this team. He never knows. Never will.

[vincecarter4pres]

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