NJN/OKC

[crazykidd2k6]

What do you think about this:

NJN Gets:
Jeff Green
Chris Wilcox
Saer Sene

NJN Gives:
Boone
SWAT
Bobby Simmons
Rights to Krstic
1st Round

OKC Gets:
Boone
SWAT
Bobby Simmons
Krstic
1st Round

OKC GIves:
Jeff Green
Wilcox
Saer Sene

Nets Line up
Harris/Dooling
VC/CDR/Ager
Green/Hayes/Najera
/Yi/Anderson/Swift
Lopez/Wilcox/Sene

OKC Line up
Westbrook/Watson
Durant/Weaver
Simmons/Mason/Collison
Boone/SWAT/White
Krstic/Swift/Petro

Nets +
We get a third Scorer who is young and have alot of upside
We get strong bigman that can play both PF/C that has a chance to be star
We get a defensive monster.

OKC +
Krstic polished post game
Young Talents
Lottery Pick

[jeff1624]

As soon as I saw chris wilcox in the deal I said to myself "now that's one deal we have to make"...

[Da big3]

As soon as I saw chris wilcox in the deal I said to myself "now that's one deal we have to make"...

r u kiddin, forget wilcox, JEFF GREEN...

[NetsForce]

I'd consider this... Chris Wilcox takes the Nets over the top...

If that first round pick the Nets send is heavily protected or if it's the Warriors 1st rounder that the Nets have (well it's more like 2 second rounders...).

In some ways I'd like to hang on to the Mavericks first rounder because in the longshot event that Dirk leaves Dallas that pick's value skyrockets...

[jeff1624]

As soon as I saw chris wilcox in the deal I said to myself "now that's one deal we have to make"...

r u kiddin, forget wilcox, JEFF GREEN...

Honestly, I prefer blue..

[Preludepunk27]

Yeah only pick I'd ever think about giving them in this deal is GSW's. If they wanted a different one, it'd have tons of restrictions so they won't get it until like 2013.

As much as I am not a fan of Wilcox, I'd do this deal is my initial gut reaction. I don't want Sene though in anyway though. Take him out, insert someone else that can back up the 1, 2 or 3 and I think I may do it.

But to face the music, this trade has problems right from the get go:

1. As of this very moment, we can ONLY match or let Krstic walk. If this could even happen, the Nets, Sloppyseconds AND Krstic would have to agree to tear up the offer sheet and work out a trade that fits everyone. That can be really tricky to get all 3 sides on the same page.

2. That draft pick. We're giving them 3 potentially solid front court players already for Wilcox and Jeff Greene. I don't think 3 solid guys + a 1st is really equal value for Jeff Greene + a 1 year rental (cause I can't see us wanting Wilcox long term with Yi, Brook and Anderson still here).


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Actually come to think of this now that I've let this idea sink in, I would probably pass on it. If the Nets wanted to compete this season, I could see them doing it and I wouldn't be angry or anything. My reasoning now is that I am committed to playing things out how they are and praying we land James Harden in the draft. I don't want to make any major moves unless a deal we can't refuse falls in our laps.

[vincecarter4pres]

Come on guys, really?

If this is all it would take to get Jeff Green you run to the bank with it.

The 1st rounder would probably be ours next year lotto protected.

Basically you are sending a non lotto pick and Josh Boone for Jeff Green.

Curly doesn't even really count considering he signed with OKC already and we most likely aren't going to match.

Green has star potential and was a high lotto pick last year.
He can play really good defense, has a nice outside shot and can legitimately play time at the 4 or the 3 although he is looking more and more like a full time 3 everyday.
I would compare him to Granger.

No way I see OKC doing this, they can get much better value for him.
He could probably be the centerpiece of a VC deal with maybe a draft pick swap involved with their pick only being top 3 or 4 protected or a three team deal where that team got VC and we got Green, the 3rd teams draft pick and OKC gets a combo of something like Boone, CDR or Anderson and another young talented guy from the 3rd team.

[vincecarter4pres]

BTW, Prelude, we are not getting Harden unless we somehow aquire a top 3-7 draft pick.

Come to think of it, I could see the possibility of a team trading him for VC and one of our young guys as a draft day deal.

[crazykidd2k6]

To be honest with you guys, I didn't think I OKC would've done this trade. However, I do think it was a close call that's why i posted it. The fact is Wilcox is injury prone and hasn't been living in his potential. So I really don't think he would have that much value now like he did before. Saer Sene prolly has the most upside out of all of their bigs yet has done nothing in the NBA so far so I don't really think he has alot of values. But, Jeff Green is the problem in the trade. I don't really think Green is untouchable becaue he doesn't really have superstar potential. He is the player that you know will be a second or third scorer in a team. Yet he does worth ALOT of values. I do think if we add another first rounder to it it will seal the deal. We do have 4 first rounder in the next 2 years and we are a young team and have alot of prospects alot of prospect players. And if this trade happens we do get a young guy in the 3 positions. So what i'm saying is we are really not loosing anything.

So the trade woud be
Nets
Krstic
Simmons
SWAT
Boone
2 2009 1st round

OKC
Green
Wilcox
Saer Sene

By Value:

Boone>Wilcox

SWAT>Sene

Krstic
Simmons = Green
2 first rounders

[Preludepunk27]

We're an injury to Vince or Devin away from being a top 3-7 pick. Regardless, Chi-town didn't have a big chance of getting the #1 pick and they lucked out. I don't believe our solid play on the road will hold up all season and we'll hit the wall. As much as I like our team and our young guys, I'm still expecting us to be a top 7 pick which puts us in prime territory for Harden.

I love how split our board is on Wilcox. I personally don't want him, but if we gave up nothing for him, I'd bring him on even though I don't think our management would want him at all. I like Jeff Green a lot. I'm still not sold on him though since the Sloppyseconds are completely worthless so SOMEONE has to put up stats for them. I think that's why in my posts I'm selling him low. Maybe when they win their 5th game I'll think differently.

[deviljets7]

Yeah only pick I'd ever think about giving them in this deal is GSW's. If they wanted a different one, it'd have tons of restrictions so they won't get it until like 2013.

As much as I am not a fan of Wilcox, I'd do this deal is my initial gut reaction. I don't want Sene though in anyway though. Take him out, insert someone else that can back up the 1, 2 or 3 and I think I may do it.

But to face the music, this trade has problems right from the get go:

1. As of this very moment, we can ONLY match or let Krstic walk. If this could even happen, the Nets, Sloppyseconds AND Krstic would have to agree to tear up the offer sheet and work out a trade that fits everyone. That can be really tricky to get all 3 sides on the same page.

2. That draft pick. We're giving them 3 potentially solid front court players already for Wilcox and Jeff Greene. I don't think 3 solid guys + a 1st is really equal value for Jeff Greene + a 1 year rental (cause I can't see us wanting Wilcox long term with Yi, Brook and Anderson still here).


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Actually come to think of this now that I've let this idea sink in, I would probably pass on it. If the Nets wanted to compete this season, I could see them doing it and I wouldn't be angry or anything. My reasoning now is that I am committed to playing things out how they are and praying we land James Harden in the draft. I don't want to make any major moves unless a deal we can't refuse falls in our laps.

There's one major thing you're forgetting in your analysis. The original proposal included Simmons' negatively valued contract as the filler (rather than say Stromile). It'd almost certainly cost a 1st and/or one of the bigs mentioned just turn Simmons in an expiring (let alone a productive one like Wilcox). I don't think he's worth it since the Nets aren't contenders, but a "rental" of Wilcox is probably worth a late 1st or one of the bigs. So in reality, the equation in this deal is....

1 potentially solid big to dump Simmons
1 potentially solid big for Wilcox
1 potentially solid big and a pick for Green and Sene (who for what it's worth is 22).

From a pure value standpoint, this deal is absurd for OKC.

[wiff]

Presti hangs up the phone and gives himself a hernia from laughing so hard. Mean while fits the Nad with his new ugly OKC digs.

[vincecarter4pres]

Presti hangs up the phone and gives himself a hernia from laughing so hard. Mean while fits the Nad with his new ugly OKC digs.

Exactly.
I would love to see VC retire as a Net, but like I said, Green could without question be the centerpiece of a VC trade.
I would welcome that trade with open arms.

[G_MoNeY]

With the recent rumors they're interested in a player like Najera. What about something like this?

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4907250

We get Mason (who could start at SF) and Collison who would be a decent backup big who can score.

They get 2 expirings, SWAT and Najera.

[vincecarter4pres]

With the recent rumors they're interested in a player like Najera. What about something like this?

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4907250

We get Mason (who could start at SF) and Collison who would be a decent backup big who can score.

They get 2 expirings, SWAT and Najera.

Don't like it.
Collison isn't even as good as Boone and he adds almost 7 mill to 2010.
I would do Mason straight up for Najera and Hassell or Mason for Najera and Ager.

[deviljets7]

I want nothing to do with Collison's contract.

If OKC was willing to do Mason for Najera/Ager, I'd do it in a heartbeat. At this point, in order to clear as much $$$ in 2010 as possible, I'd do Najera for Damien Wilkins as a last resort.