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Post#1 » by NetsForce » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:42 pm

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11370

I hate Bogans. Not as much as I hate Hughes, but I wouldn't be against this trade just because it gets the Nets out from Najera's salary. I'm afraid that it will bury CDR even more though =[...
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Post#2 » by Rockice_8 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:45 pm

I don't care, I just hate seeing Najara on the floor it sickens me.
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Post#3 » by S.I.C. GM » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:36 pm

You see. We need to get into these talks with the Blazers and Suns.

Not interested in Bogans but if there is a draft pick involved.

Question is who plays instead of Najera? Swift or SWill? We might also see more SMALL BALL!!!!
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Post#4 » by SteveNets15 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:42 pm

Na i dont like him but if he's an expiring and we can dump Najera's contract so be it.
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Post#5 » by lurkingobeiscity » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:09 pm

That would be a great chance to drop a contract we never should have offered.

The team should consider sending CDR to the Dleague for a couple weeks just to get some playing time.
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Post#6 » by Preludepunk27 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:24 pm

I like Bogans, his contract comes off the books after the season. What'd be nicer would be if we could figure out a 3 team deal with someone better and also to clear a roster spot. Something like:

Najera to Orlando

Swift/Bogans/filler/ to Portland

Lafrentz/something to Jersey

Now portland fans would probably hate that and I would probably agree. I'm just turning the wheels in my head, but if we could work out a 3 team deal with Swift/Bogans going somewhere (almost 9 mill expiring), Orland getting Najera and us getting something we'd enjoy, then that'd be incredible.
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Post#7 » by deviljets7 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:27 pm

If you can get an expiring for Najera you make the trade, no questions asked.
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Post#8 » by S.I.C. GM » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:11 pm

deviljets7 wrote:If you can get an expiring for Najera you make the trade, no questions asked.


As much as I didnt mind the signing of Najera, once again frank has made Thorn FA signing look like a mistake. I think Najera is being used incorrectly. He should be put in for defensive purposes. When an opposing F/C is getting hot you put him in to annoy the hell out of them. Just putting him in as part of your rotation is stupid. If you have a lead and want to maintain it, you put him in with the Defensive squad to try to avoid a run. Hassel should be on the court for the same reasons. Once again Frank is being stubborn, if Swift and Swill can play, why not play them. Anderson should be coming off the bench.
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Post#9 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:07 pm

deviljets7 wrote:If you can get an expiring for Najera you make the trade, no questions asked.
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Post#10 » by ecuhus1981 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:56 pm

I am saddened to hear about this rumor, but I can understand it from both sides. I think SVG and the Magic could get a TON of mileage out Eduardo; his leadership, intangibles, teamwork, defense and shooting are exactly what they need in the frontcourt.

I was encouraged by our offseason acquisition of him, even if it did throw a minor monkey wrench in our 2010 plan. It signaled that we want to compete now, and we know that the best of Najera comes out in the postseason. The problem is, this Nets team is still trying to find itself, and our PF position is so hopelessly glutted with youngster who need to develop, that he can't get meaningful PT.

If this trade went through, I would salute Eddy for his lunchpail approach to basketball and his presence in the locker room, but unfortunately, we just don't have a role that suits his talents. Also, I'd love to see him keep the streak alive, of always making it to the postseason. Right now, that's no certainty in New Jersey, esp. with Carter tradewinds swirling (again).
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Post#11 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:05 pm

I never liked the Najera signing when it happened.

I don't especailly like him as a player and although I understood the role he was coming here to play and what he was supposed to do in practice and the lockerroom, I knew Opie would get to attached to him and give him too many minutes.
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Post#12 » by NetsForce » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:44 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:I am saddened to hear about this rumor, but I can understand it from both sides. I think SVG and the Magic could get a TON of mileage out Eduardo; his leadership, intangibles, teamwork, defense and shooting are exactly what they need in the frontcourt.

I was encouraged by our offseason acquisition of him, even if it did throw a minor monkey wrench in our 2010 plan. It signaled that we want to compete now, and we know that the best of Najera comes out in the postseason. The problem is, this Nets team is still trying to find itself, and our PF position is so hopelessly glutted with youngster who need to develop, that he can't get meaningful PT.

If this trade went through, I would salute Eddy for his lunchpail approach to basketball and his presence in the locker room, but unfortunately, we just don't have a role that suits his talents. Also, I'd love to see him keep the streak alive, of always making it to the postseason. Right now, that's no certainty in New Jersey, esp. with Carter tradewinds swirling (again).


I agree 100% with that statement. Really the one thing I don't like about this potential trade is that it would bury CDR even further down on the depth chart....
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Post#13 » by jerseyjac » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:49 am

lurkingobeiscity wrote:That would be a great chance to drop a contract we never should have offered.

The team should consider sending CDR to the Dleague for a couple weeks just to get some playing time.

I agree...
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Post#14 » by jerseyjac » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:56 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:I am saddened to hear about this rumor, but I can understand it from both sides. I think SVG and the Magic could get a TON of mileage out Eduardo; his leadership, intangibles, teamwork, defense and shooting are exactly what they need in the frontcourt.

I was encouraged by our offseason acquisition of him, even if it did throw a minor monkey wrench in our 2010 plan. It signaled that we want to compete now, and we know that the best of Najera comes out in the postseason. The problem is, this Nets team is still trying to find itself, and our PF position is so hopelessly glutted with youngster who need to develop, that he can't get meaningful PT.

If this trade went through, I would salute Eddy for his lunchpail approach to basketball and his presence in the locker room, but unfortunately, we just don't have a role that suits his talents. Also, I'd love to see him keep the streak alive, of always making it to the postseason. Right now, that's no certainty in New Jersey, esp. with Carter tradewinds swirling (again).


you know, he got off to rough start...and I do feel he has a lot miles on him...but he's been playing better, and more of what I thought we would of gotten earlier...


vincecarter4pres wrote:I never liked the Najera signing when it happened.

I don't especailly like him as a player and although I understood the role he was coming here to play and what he was supposed to do in practice and the lockerroom, I knew Opie would get to attached to him and give him too many minutes.


well said...I thought the same thing...it was an Opie FA...overused, misused...whatever you want to call it...and the fact that maybe Najera couldnt bring what he's known for every game ...consistently...but you make the trade, as stated above...
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Post#15 » by crazykidd2k6 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:50 am

No way I would trade Najera for expiring contracts. He is such a useful player. He is not suppose to be playing big minutes, he is suppose to be playing 8-13 mpg. He is an all out hustle player and has very quick instincts. He is the player that is a mumentum changer or just make a big difference in the game like getting us more possesions. Not to mention, he is a very popular player. He will be a great use to us in the future, we just have to fix our bigger holes.
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Post#16 » by jerseyjac » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:27 pm

crazykidd2k6 wrote:No way I would trade Najera for expiring contracts. He is such a useful player. He is not suppose to be playing big minutes, he is suppose to be playing 8-13 mpg. He is an all out hustle player and has very quick instincts. He is the player that is a mumentum changer or just make a big difference in the game like getting us more possesions. Not to mention, he is a very popular player. He will be a great use to us in the future, we just have to fix our bigger holes.

I know what he does for this team...but you're over estimating his value...he really isnt all that important for future and what not...insert Hassel, almost the same thing...
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Post#17 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:09 pm

I was always surprised with the signing's length. I was never a big fan of Najera since I haven't heard much from him. BUT...watching him this season's just boils my blood. Leaves his man wide open at times, the worst big we have against the pick and roll, stupid fouls, can't set picks, doesn't rebound well...kind of like what Collins was to us his last year here.

I'd trade him for Bogans not only for the 3rd string PG, but to get Swift or SWAT off the IR.
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Post#18 » by jerseyjac » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:28 pm

Rich Rane wrote:I was always surprised with the signing's length. I was never a big fan of Najera since I haven't heard much from him. BUT...watching him this season's just boils my blood. Leaves his man wide open at times, the worst big we have against the pick and roll, stupid fouls, can't set picks, doesn't rebound well...kind of like what Collins was to us his last year here.

I'd trade him for Bogans not only for the 3rd string PG, but to get Swift or SWAT off the IR.

in other words...he's overrated...and yes, I would love to see either Swift or SWAT at this point...
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Post#19 » by rag-time4 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:42 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:I am saddened to hear about this rumor, but I can understand it from both sides. I think SVG and the Magic could get a TON of mileage out Eduardo; his leadership, intangibles, teamwork, defense and shooting are exactly what they need in the frontcourt.

I was encouraged by our offseason acquisition of him, even if it did throw a minor monkey wrench in our 2010 plan. It signaled that we want to compete now, and we know that the best of Najera comes out in the postseason. The problem is, this Nets team is still trying to find itself, and our PF position is so hopelessly glutted with youngster who need to develop, that he can't get meaningful PT.

If this trade went through, I would salute Eddy for his lunchpail approach to basketball and his presence in the locker room, but unfortunately, we just don't have a role that suits his talents. Also, I'd love to see him keep the streak alive, of always making it to the postseason. Right now, that's no certainty in New Jersey, esp. with Carter tradewinds swirling (again).

What kind of leadership could Najera bring when he's going to be the worst player on whatever team he is on? And his defense is very soft, particularly on rotations. He has been playing reguarly in January, but he has a meager grand total of 3 blocked shots for the entire month!

That's downright shameful. It would sadden me that Najera and Anderson are playing over Swift and Williams, if I didn't expect that going into the season.

Najera and Anderson should be in suits, Swift should be starting, and Williams should be coming off the bench. Let Najera and Anderson play if and only if the legit bigs are in foul trouble.
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Post#20 » by jerseyjac » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:59 am

rag-time...in all fairness to Najera and Anderson and your break down above...

did it ever occur to you that neither is a shot blocker...meaning, you wont see a lot of blocked shots from either in any month...

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