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Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:16 am
by crazykidd2k6
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Nj Gives:
VC
Boone

Nj Recieves:
Gordon
Outlaw
Noah
1st Round Pick

Bulls Gives
Gordon
Noah
Hughes
Simmons

Bulls Recieves
Phrysbilla
Webster
Lafrentz
Frye

Blazers Gives
Outlaw
Webster
Lafrentz
Frye
Phrysbilla
1st Round Pick

Blazers Recieves
VC
Hughes
Boone
Simmons

Njn Line up
Harris/Dooling
Gordon/Hayes/CDR
Outlaw/Simmons/Hassell
Yi/Anderson/Najera/SWAT
Lopez/Noah/Swift

Bulls
Rose/Hinrich/Hunter
Safeloshia/Webster
Deng/Nocioni
Frye/Thomas/Gooden/Lafrentz
Phrysbilla/Gray/Ruffin

Blazers
Blake/Hughes/Bayless/Rodriguez
Roy/Fernandez
VC/Batum
Aldridge/Simmons/Diogu/Randolph
Oden/Boone

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:39 am
by Spykes
I like the idea of getting Carter, but this definitely is not how to go about doing it.

Pass for Portland.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:20 am
by deviljets7
Spykes wrote:I like the idea of getting Carter, but this definitely is not how to go about doing it.

Pass for Portland.


Agreed, I can't see Portland taking on 2 dead-wood contracts and giving up that much in youth + their backup C.

Also, Ben Gordon would have to approve any trade and would forfeit his Bird Rights if traded. I can't see him accepting this (or any) trade.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:51 am
by PDXKnight
Hughes and Simmons make this deal very unappealing for Portland. I'm with Spykes where I like Carter, but not at the cost of adding 20 million on the books next season plus losing our only security Blanket when Oden gets in foul trouble.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:57 pm
by Rockice_8
The deal would have to be something like VC to Portland for Raef, Outlaw, and 1st. I think thats the best we can hope for.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:39 pm
by SteveNets15
How about we throw Brandon Roy a max contract with 20 mill up front next off-season since he'll be a free agent.Just imagine Devin and Roy as are backcourt with Lopez up front.That would be a bright future for the Nets.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:30 pm
by S.I.C. GM
stevieboy wrote:How about we throw Brandon Roy a max contract with 20 mill up front next off-season since he'll be a free agent.Just imagine Devin and Roy as are backcourt with Lopez up front.That would be a bright future for the Nets.


I am pretty sure Portland Matches whatever is thrown his way.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:53 pm
by G_MoNeY
Roy isn't going anywhere. I just hope if/when VC is traded it's to a contender. Despite what many of his critics say, VC deserves a a ring.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:05 pm
by Rich Rane
G_MoNeY wrote:Roy isn't going anywhere. I just hope if/when VC is traded it's to a contender. Despite what many of his critics say, VC deserves a a ring.


I'll say the same thing when the Kidd and K-Mart (And for those months on the KG trail, RJ) talks appeared. I couldn't care less about where VC is traded. It could be the Clippers, the Magic, or even the Knicks...as long as the Nets get away with another heist. I don't hate VC (and the Finals Big 3 for the matter), but as a fan...Nets team first before an individual.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:19 pm
by vincecarter4pres
I like Gordon more thatn others and would welcome him on this team.

That said, PDX takes on way too much unneeded salary and sends out Pryzbilla, who they need.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:38 pm
by S.I.C. GM
G_MoNeY wrote:Roy isn't going anywhere. I just hope if/when VC is traded it's to a contender. Despite what many of his critics say, VC deserves a a ring.


No one deserves anything.

You earn things.

I dont think getting a ring is high on his priority list.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:40 pm
by S.I.C. GM
Rich Rane wrote:
G_MoNeY wrote:Roy isn't going anywhere. I just hope if/when VC is traded it's to a contender. Despite what many of his critics say, VC deserves a a ring.


I'll say the same thing when the Kidd and K-Mart (And for those months on the KG trail, RJ) talks appeared. I couldn't care less about where VC is traded. It could be the Clippers, the Magic, or even the Knicks...as long as the Nets get away with another heist. I don't hate VC (and the Finals Big 3 for the matter), but as a fan...Nets team first before an individual.


I SECOND THAT!!!!!!

KIDD is one of my favorite players, but I dont miss him.

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:49 pm
by jerseyjac
well you get down to the question is the team > player...

yes, w/out a doubt...if you are a true fan...

Before Vince Carter came to NJ, I was never a fan...throw on a Nets jersey on Jordan and I'll root for him (couldnt stand him as a player...)...you either lovem or hatem...samething w. Ewing, Barkley, Miller, ect...

Did/do they deserve a ring? Depends on the fan...

As far as Vince goes, career wise, he's a tier below those guys (no NBA Finals appearance)...but I think there is a lot to his game that goes unrecognized...he gets killed for some of his outside shot selection, but when he makes them, no one complains...

If we ever trade Carter, you want the most for your return...I'm sure G will still be a Vince fan no matter where he goes, but I'm sure he wants the Nets to get the best possible deal out there...

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:01 am
by Rich Rane
jerseyjac wrote:If we ever trade Carter, you want the most for your return...I'm sure G will still be a Vince fan no matter where he goes, but I'm sure he wants the Nets to get the best possible deal out there...


Yeah, I've more faith in G myself. Hell, I still follow the Finals Big 3 still (at least I follow K-Mart when he isn't injured).

Re: Trade him while he is hot (BlockBuster)

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:56 am
by G_MoNeY
My comments were because I've followed VC since his college days. The guy is an easy target to the media and critics, because of his attitude and selfishness, plain and simple. This guy has been nothing but a role model, where ever he has gone, and I'm sure the majority of the Raptor fans (even the bitter ones) would agree.

With that being said, I personally would like to see him get a ring, I think he deserves one but that's just my personal opinion. As JJ said, a lot of things in VC's game are underrated and go unnoticed. It's a shame.

Obviously I want the best possible deal for the Nets and their future. I don't see anything any team has to offer that we'd consider outside of Portland, honestly. As far as young talent goes right now - Cleveland doesn't have much, Orlando doesn't have much, etc...

I'll definitely always support the Nets, even more so when Frank gets the axe. I will also keep a close eye on VC, however, and hope he ends his career with at least 1 ring. Team always comes before the individual, after all, there's no "I" in "team"