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Im hoping the management will look at the Wizards game closely and somehow fire Frank.
I think Frank is using the role players strength incorrectly but he's okay setting or designing plays for the main guys. Anderson's strength is not really shooting, although he can shoot, he is still a rookie and needs more confidence and years to be able to make those consistently. Just like a little clip they've shown about him on half time (i think), he was posting up and using his fakes and feet to get to the basket easier, he's very crafty. I'm thinking if he could somehow play a little bit closer and not force shots far outside and maybe he'll be a little more useful. The same goes with Najera. Frank needs to utilize more his other players because when they play better basketball, we win more games.
Frank also needs to tell VC to stop shooting to many running, fadeaway jumpshots and he'll be more effective. The dribble-drive offense for DH is perfect, he just needs to be more confident, more aggressive and more of a fighter especially when it comes to the elite PF or C's because i noticed that when he plays with great PF or C's, he hesitates and he commits more TO's. Passing to the open players for an easy jumpers is not a bad idea but we don't really have a big time shooter like other team has so i think DH needs to penetrate more than just passing the ball.
Frank needs to maximize their strength and not show their weaknesses. And that's exactly what he's been doing and that's why players like SWill never advanced and instead, went all the way down the drain. Damn, i had high hopes for SWill because i believe that he can still be a contributor esp. defensively and not be just a D-League or overseas player. He showed flashes and at least, he can change the opposing players shots, if not, block it.
If only Frank is not stubborn and maybe players like CDR wouldn't just stand around in the corner and watch the plays run for the same player all the time, and maybe, Antoine Wright would still be here and disrupt the opposing elite SG's and once in a while shoots some 3's.
And how the hell we always leave an open players by the 3 point line? How the hell, the Knicks, when i once watched them, only left twice or thrice an open player behind the arc? They are more of a scoring team than a defensive one but they somehow defend better than us! I think we have better defensive players than they do so what the **** is the problem? This is unbelievable man and i can't stand this games anymore. And to be honest, i want the team to tank and maybe we can get a good player on the draft but losing for about 20-30 points a game is ridiculous! Losing to an injured team with the worst record at home without Arenas is embarrassing!!
Franks needs to go and he needs to GO NOW!!!!!
I think Frank is using the role players strength incorrectly but he's okay setting or designing plays for the main guys. Anderson's strength is not really shooting, although he can shoot, he is still a rookie and needs more confidence and years to be able to make those consistently. Just like a little clip they've shown about him on half time (i think), he was posting up and using his fakes and feet to get to the basket easier, he's very crafty. I'm thinking if he could somehow play a little bit closer and not force shots far outside and maybe he'll be a little more useful. The same goes with Najera. Frank needs to utilize more his other players because when they play better basketball, we win more games.
Frank also needs to tell VC to stop shooting to many running, fadeaway jumpshots and he'll be more effective. The dribble-drive offense for DH is perfect, he just needs to be more confident, more aggressive and more of a fighter especially when it comes to the elite PF or C's because i noticed that when he plays with great PF or C's, he hesitates and he commits more TO's. Passing to the open players for an easy jumpers is not a bad idea but we don't really have a big time shooter like other team has so i think DH needs to penetrate more than just passing the ball.
Frank needs to maximize their strength and not show their weaknesses. And that's exactly what he's been doing and that's why players like SWill never advanced and instead, went all the way down the drain. Damn, i had high hopes for SWill because i believe that he can still be a contributor esp. defensively and not be just a D-League or overseas player. He showed flashes and at least, he can change the opposing players shots, if not, block it.
If only Frank is not stubborn and maybe players like CDR wouldn't just stand around in the corner and watch the plays run for the same player all the time, and maybe, Antoine Wright would still be here and disrupt the opposing elite SG's and once in a while shoots some 3's.
And how the hell we always leave an open players by the 3 point line? How the hell, the Knicks, when i once watched them, only left twice or thrice an open player behind the arc? They are more of a scoring team than a defensive one but they somehow defend better than us! I think we have better defensive players than they do so what the **** is the problem? This is unbelievable man and i can't stand this games anymore. And to be honest, i want the team to tank and maybe we can get a good player on the draft but losing for about 20-30 points a game is ridiculous! Losing to an injured team with the worst record at home without Arenas is embarrassing!!
Franks needs to go and he needs to GO NOW!!!!!
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I feel you man losing to the elite teams is one thing but the WIZ! thats just pathetic.This team really needs a shakeup, we should've made some kind of trade and definitly FIREFRANK.COM
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I just peeped you sig.
You have stooped to new levels of hate that only people like the Mad Rapper and Steven A. Smith know. Just plain ruthless.
You have stooped to new levels of hate that only people like the Mad Rapper and Steven A. Smith know. Just plain ruthless.

Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
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Need to start Yi next game against Phila... Nets guard shoot to much.. need to make plays for others... a pick and pop with yi.. and lt Yi post up some.. the Nets guard be shooting and driving even when there's 3 or 4 guys in the paint.. Devin Harriss need to setup plays for others.. sometime he shoot to much.. VC too.. and dooling.. what's the different bettween Nash and Harriss.. Nash make plays for his teammates and make everyone around him better.. Harriss.just drives.. reminds me of marbury now.. grrrrrrrrrrr 

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vincecarter4pres wrote:I just peeped you sig.
You have stooped to new levels of hate that only people like the Mad Rapper and Steven A. Smith know. Just plain ruthless.
I'm not sure if this is a compliment or an insult but... I'll take it!

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Nets coach Lawrence Frank blamed himself for Friday's loss to the Wizards, but general manager Rod Thorn is still confident in the his abilities.
"I think Lawrence prepares the team," Thorn said Saturday. "We know what we need to do, but sometimes it's a matter of execution. We haven't executed very well."
New Jersey has lost five straight games.
"I'm just doing a poor job," said Frank. "If I can't get these guys to compete harder I'm just doing a poor job because there's no excuse for it."
Despite Frank's comments, Thorn remained by his side.
"I think he was just trying to deflect what was not our best performance onto himself," Thorn said.
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G_MoNeY wrote:Nets coach Lawrence Frank blamed himself for Friday's loss to the Wizards, but general manager Rod Thorn is still confident in the his abilities.
"I think Lawrence prepares the team," Thorn said Saturday. "We know what we need to do, but sometimes it's a matter of execution. We haven't executed very well."
New Jersey has lost five straight games.
"I'm just doing a poor job," said Frank. "If I can't get these guys to compete harder I'm just doing a poor job because there's no excuse for it."
Despite Frank's comments, Thorn remained by his side.
"I think he was just trying to deflect what was not our best performance onto himself," Thorn said.
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yes like wtf? if someone does a poor job, and even admits it just makes mgmt more justified to fire his
stinkin butt, I think that this is the biggest mistake that Rod Thorn has ever made, aside from the najera signing...
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WOW! Wtf is Thorn thinking? I get it... I think this is his game plan, he wants Thorn to have pity on him and because he knows Thorn more than we do, maybe, he knows that Thorn likes him and has a golden heart when it comes to him so he's creating this "it's all my fault" drama so Thorn still can give him a chance and maybe Thorn gives him an extension this summer for three more years?
Im sorry to ask this... i know this question is kind of a personal attack already but what's the chances of Thorn hiding in the closet? He looks fruity though.
This is ashame, i just realized that how can i root for my team when this coach is still here. I kept thinking of what the team should do to play better and the trades, FA's, and the draft but as long as we have this guy, there is no way we're going to get to that next level. In other words, who cares if we somehow get LeBron or let's say we get Kobe, who cares, Opie is still here and it'll be the same thing, the same mess. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Im sorry to ask this... i know this question is kind of a personal attack already but what's the chances of Thorn hiding in the closet? He looks fruity though.
This is ashame, i just realized that how can i root for my team when this coach is still here. I kept thinking of what the team should do to play better and the trades, FA's, and the draft but as long as we have this guy, there is no way we're going to get to that next level. In other words, who cares if we somehow get LeBron or let's say we get Kobe, who cares, Opie is still here and it'll be the same thing, the same mess. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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We were predicted to finish dead last. At one point this season, we were in the playoff picture before Yi went down and we had that deadly Western roadtrip. Add that with the injuries that just happened and are still happening, Frank has done a great job with the limited talent he's been given. People complained about his ability to bring up rookies and he's got Lopez and Anderson playing better than most of the rookies in their class yet many people still complain about CDR getting no shot.
This team sucks in general. No coach would be able to take this roster and turn it into a winner because we lack talent and that is the whole point of this season to progress the rookies and Devin which has been accomplished with a rookie game appearance and an all-star game appearance.
What did you guys think was going to happen this year?
We were predicted to finish dead last. At one point this season, we were in the playoff picture before Yi went down and we had that deadly Western roadtrip. Add that with the injuries that just happened and are still happening, Frank has done a great job with the limited talent he's been given. People complained about his ability to bring up rookies and he's got Lopez and Anderson playing better than most of the rookies in their class yet many people still complain about CDR getting no shot.
This team sucks in general. No coach would be able to take this roster and turn it into a winner because we lack talent and that is the whole point of this season to progress the rookies and Devin which has been accomplished with a rookie game appearance and an all-star game appearance.
What did you guys think was going to happen this year?
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there's only remained ONE constant throughout all these years Universe. It's the coach. How many different systems need to be implemented? How many times do you have to create a new roster? How long can we go without playing defense? How predictable do we have to be on offense? How long can we continue to have a man in charge that has proven NOTHING in the NBA, besides being mediocre.
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What have these players proven that they'd win? Aside from Jason Kidd who was on the downfall, Lawrence has had nothing to work with. He got us one game away from a 50 win season when Krstic was at the top of his game and then the next year he injured his knee. He then had to work with Collins, Boone, Magloire, Moore, Allen and Williams as a front court depth. How can a coach not be predictable when you have zero offensive bigs and two wing players who need the ball to be sucsessful?
This is a rebuilding year and so far he's turned two young players into potential greatness for this team. The season isn't about wins and losses, it's about progressing so our future isn't like the New York Knicks on a hope that some star wants to play for them.
This is a rebuilding year and so far he's turned two young players into potential greatness for this team. The season isn't about wins and losses, it's about progressing so our future isn't like the New York Knicks on a hope that some star wants to play for them.
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you guys are seriously going overboard with this...Its like you were expecting a playoff season..because i wasnt im surprised we have the record that we have right now. But of course if he had Phil Jackson we would have 45 wins right now.Its sad that some of you blame every loss on frank.
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First of all, no one's blaming Opie for every loss. Nobody is stupid enough to think that it's the coaches fault all the time. Most people here expected a non-playoff team, we all get that, but when you see teams like the Knicks playing better even when they're also losing, as fans, we start questioning why a 7 man roster team would beat a team that has an all-star and a rookie who's having a good season and progressive more and more each game. If you would compare the games the Knicks played against the teams that has beaten us cold, with like around 20+ point margin, it's not even close. The knicks closes the gap within the 3 point range quicker than we do and the reason im putting an emphasis on the 3 pt. defense is because that is one of the main reason why we're getting beaten sensesly, it's already a pattern.
If you're gonna compare the Knicks players defensively against us, i think, with our players, we have a better shot at it, we have Harris and Brook from front to back to cover the team at least. But what do we do? We leave the opposing players open, often. If it wasn't only a pattern every game then Frank wouldn't be bashed like this. If you do it consistently then who's fault is it? It's Frank job to put in a game plan to not let it happen every game, same goes with our daily job between the bosses and the crew right?
Of course, i expected a non-winning season but for us to lose with the same bulls**t is unacceptable. They, at least, need to show some effort to win the games and Frank needs to motivate them better and make the team believe with his system. Heck, im only talking about the 3 point problems, you guys don't want me to get started with their 3rd quarter funk!
See, one of the main reasons on why Frank is getting treated like this is because of the things that's been going on around the league. Other coaches getting fired left and right. Why you guys think Reggie Theus got fired so early when we all know and their whole team including the management that the Kings is not going anywhere? Frank's been here for so many years and he's getting paid better money than most coaches in the league right now but the Nets management never once questioned him nor was never put in the hot seat.
We started this season thinking that it's just going to be a smooth ride just giving our youngsters some time, some experience under their belt but, instantly, they started playing better basketball and we got excited and we ended up asking for more but then this whole 3 point defense woes and the 3rd quarter funk started developing into a bigger problem and that's why now fans like me are questioning Frank's capabilities.
Frank didn't get Anderson nor Brook playing better basketball because, like Krstic, there was no one else to put in, in that position as the other players were injured or having some family problems. And luckily, all three of them are not a bad ball players either, they showed signs in the college level that they can play and Krstic is already an experienced player even before he got here, while Anderson still owns some record back in college in his division. They are just somebody, they just happen to fall on the Nets lap during draft day.
If you're gonna compare the Knicks players defensively against us, i think, with our players, we have a better shot at it, we have Harris and Brook from front to back to cover the team at least. But what do we do? We leave the opposing players open, often. If it wasn't only a pattern every game then Frank wouldn't be bashed like this. If you do it consistently then who's fault is it? It's Frank job to put in a game plan to not let it happen every game, same goes with our daily job between the bosses and the crew right?
Of course, i expected a non-winning season but for us to lose with the same bulls**t is unacceptable. They, at least, need to show some effort to win the games and Frank needs to motivate them better and make the team believe with his system. Heck, im only talking about the 3 point problems, you guys don't want me to get started with their 3rd quarter funk!
See, one of the main reasons on why Frank is getting treated like this is because of the things that's been going on around the league. Other coaches getting fired left and right. Why you guys think Reggie Theus got fired so early when we all know and their whole team including the management that the Kings is not going anywhere? Frank's been here for so many years and he's getting paid better money than most coaches in the league right now but the Nets management never once questioned him nor was never put in the hot seat.
We started this season thinking that it's just going to be a smooth ride just giving our youngsters some time, some experience under their belt but, instantly, they started playing better basketball and we got excited and we ended up asking for more but then this whole 3 point defense woes and the 3rd quarter funk started developing into a bigger problem and that's why now fans like me are questioning Frank's capabilities.
Frank didn't get Anderson nor Brook playing better basketball because, like Krstic, there was no one else to put in, in that position as the other players were injured or having some family problems. And luckily, all three of them are not a bad ball players either, they showed signs in the college level that they can play and Krstic is already an experienced player even before he got here, while Anderson still owns some record back in college in his division. They are just somebody, they just happen to fall on the Nets lap during draft day.
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G_MoNeY wrote:Nets coach Lawrence Frank blamed himself for Friday's loss to the Wizards, but general manager Rod Thorn is still confident in the his abilities.
"I think Lawrence prepares the team," Thorn said Saturday. "We know what we need to do, but sometimes it's a matter of execution. We haven't executed very well."
New Jersey has lost five straight games.
"I'm just doing a poor job," said Frank. "If I can't get these guys to compete harder I'm just doing a poor job because there's no excuse for it."
Despite Frank's comments, Thorn remained by his side.
"I think he was just trying to deflect what was not our best performance onto himself," Thorn said.
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Don't Puke yet.
Remember Thorn is cerebral.
Who knows what this quote means with Thorn. This could be a smoke screen. Why would they Fire Frank now. Before ASG, Yes but now. What would be the point.
Frank is sealing his grave. I say let him lose more games. He will lose this team. Let him.
Better for us to get into the lottery.
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S.I.C. GM wrote:G_MoNeY wrote:Nets coach Lawrence Frank blamed himself for Friday's loss to the Wizards, but general manager Rod Thorn is still confident in the his abilities.
"I think Lawrence prepares the team," Thorn said Saturday. "We know what we need to do, but sometimes it's a matter of execution. We haven't executed very well."
New Jersey has lost five straight games.
"I'm just doing a poor job," said Frank. "If I can't get these guys to compete harder I'm just doing a poor job because there's no excuse for it."
Despite Frank's comments, Thorn remained by his side.
"I think he was just trying to deflect what was not our best performance onto himself," Thorn said.
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Don't Puke yet.
Remember Thorn is cerebral.
Who knows what this quote means with Thorn. This could be a smoke screen. Why would they Fire Frank now. Before ASG, Yes but now. What would be the point.
Frank is sealing his grave. I say let him lose more games. He will lose this team. Let him.
Better for us to get into the lottery.
The point is i just don't want to see his damn face on the sideline.

No seriously, he's just iritating, especially when he screams for plays, just being loud. Also, calling timeouts when there's a minute left and they're down by 20 points.
I know he shouts to help the players out a bit and im sure it's very helpful at times and calling timeouts when he shouldn't just sets the players up when an actual situation is presented but still... he drives me crazy, very annoying!
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We lose by the same bull because we suck! I don't know how hard it is to see? Thunder, Knicks, Kings, Suns, Raptors and Pistons have all fired their coach and have they actually improved? No, because there is nothing better to put in.
They are the stupid ones with a rebuilding team firing the coach after a few, to one season while we are in our FIRST year of rebuilding beating expectations.
As for Frank having nothing to do with the sucsess of Anderson and Lopez, then how can you blame him from poor excution when he's getting these guys good shots along with Harris.
Changing coaches is only going to stunt our development as a team unless you can land the Phils, Pops and Sloans, there really is no point.
They are the stupid ones with a rebuilding team firing the coach after a few, to one season while we are in our FIRST year of rebuilding beating expectations.
As for Frank having nothing to do with the sucsess of Anderson and Lopez, then how can you blame him from poor excution when he's getting these guys good shots along with Harris.
Changing coaches is only going to stunt our development as a team unless you can land the Phils, Pops and Sloans, there really is no point.
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Czar is a similar coach to Frank...only Czar is about 10 times better. It'd be a relatively easy transition. I'm fine with that move.

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Universe wrote:We lose by the same bull because we suck! I don't know how hard it is to see? Thunder, Knicks, Kings, Suns, Raptors and Pistons have all fired their coach and have they actually improved? No, because there is nothing better to put in.
They are the stupid ones with a rebuilding team firing the coach after a few, to one season while we are in our FIRST year of rebuilding beating expectations.
As for Frank having nothing to do with the sucsess of Anderson and Lopez, then how can you blame him from poor excution when he's getting these guys good shots along with Harris.
Changing coaches is only going to stunt our development as a team unless you can land the Phils, Pops and Sloans, there really is no point.
Sorry Universe you are wrong.
When we fired Scott, Frank won record number of games by a first time coach in a row. So changing coaches does work.
As far as some of the teams you mentioned, the Suns changed coaches then won two games in a row where they scored 140 pts. The Thunder are playing better. Raptors have a lame duck coach and their star player is ready to leave. Pistons management made an mistake. They traded for AI. So your examples are not good enough.
Dont know why you put the Knicks here. They are playing better and winning games and beating teams we cant beat. Lets look at them. Talent wise IMO we have more. yeah they have a no defense mentality, but our starting 5 is better then theirs. So what is the only other reason, it has to be the coach.
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