Should Yi be taken off the starting lineup?

dunleavyjr · Post #1 » by **dunleavyjr** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:29 am

No offense, but the guy can't really play. His shooting has gone down the hill.
You folks shouldn't be giving him the starter spot.

vincecarter4pres · Post #2 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:47 am

I'm hoping he isn't on this roster by next season.

dunleavyjr · Post #3 » by **dunleavyjr** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:51 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:I'm hoping he isn't on this roster by next season.

You sound like you wann bring back Stromile Swift.

vincecarter4pres · Post #4 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:03 am

dunleavyjr wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:I'm hoping he isn't on this roster by next season.

You sound like you wann bring back Stromile Swift.

Nah, I'm good.

But I would like to see Ryan Anderson get Yi's minutes this season and see Yi traded for a lotto pick, maybe 8-14 range or as part of a blockbuster deal with Simmons expiring contract, in the offseason.

dunleavyjr · Post #5 » by **dunleavyjr** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:23 am

Is assigning Yi to the D-League a good alternative?

Post #6 » by **Rich Rane** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:00 pm

No. His confidence will hit rock bottom, making it almost impossible for him to reach any of that potential we saw before the injury.

vincecarter4pres wrote:But I would like to see Ryan Anderson get Yi's minutes this season and see Yi traded for a lotto pick, maybe 8-14 range or as part of a blockbuster deal with Simmons expiring contract, in the offseason.

I'm still not a big fan of Anderson at the 4, but I do would like to see one of Simmons or Hassell AND Najera gone (I doubt it'll happen with his contract). Anderson, even at 6'10 and 240, gets pushed around a lot in the paint. We let the opponent get many second chances or easy points in there, as we all saw during Yi's injury break. With one of Simmons or Hassell gone, Anderson could finally see minutes at the 3, shooting over his man with ease.

MeMe · Post #7 » by **MeMe** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:24 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:I'm hoping he isn't on this roster by next season.

Ditto.

I love how Frank pulls him after about four minutes. :lol:

I'm usually yelling "KEEP HIM ON THE BENCH, FRANK!" when Frank puts him in in the second half, but then Frank pulls him within about a minute.

I feel bad, cause it's obvious he has no confidence, but....

NetsForce · Post #8 » by **NetsForce** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:35 pm

Did you guys see Slowmile Stiff he str8 domin8ted it last game for the Phoenis Softs.

NjNeTs1029 · Post #9 » by **NjNeTs1029** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:08 pm

i really cant stand Yi.. i hope we trade him in the offseason for a draft pick or something.

dunleavyjr · Post #10 » by **dunleavyjr** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:50 pm

NjNeTs1029 wrote:i really cant stand Yi.. i hope we trade him in the offseason for a draft pick or something.

Looking at the way Yi's been playing lately, there's no way he can be traded for a 1st round pick. At best is for a 2nd rounder. Are you folks willing to accept?

vincecarter4pres · Post #11 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:52 pm

dunleavyjr wrote:
NjNeTs1029 wrote:i really cant stand Yi.. i hope we trade him in the offseason for a draft pick or something.

Looking at the way Yi's been playing lately, there's no way he can be traded for a 1st round pick. At best is for a 2nd rounder. Are you folks willing to accept?

No that's pretty ig.
He is still worth a late lotto pick or a solid young wing that has yet to achieve his potential.

aussienet · Post #12 » by **aussienet** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:59 pm

I think the jury is still out on Yi. I personally haven't seen enough of him to make a judgement. Who would we replace him with?
I think he is in to spread the floor, open up the lane for Lopez. I would be happy if his numbers were 14, 9, 1 blks.
Wether he is 21 or 24 he still has time to develop imo. I do feel however that his game is more suited to western conferance. I'm thinking Suns or Fakers
What about simmons/Yi for kobe lol

Still to early to call.

Cheers

halfHAVOC · Post #13 » by **halfHAVOC** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:16 am

as ive said before

Yi is garbage, id be much happier if we started Ryan Anderson to stretch the floor because he atleast hits his shots and doesn't make as many dumb mistakes even tho hes a rookie

Yi might be better in the 2nd unit so he can have more isos on the wing.

vincecarter4pres · Post #14 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:09 am

If I am Rod and Kiki, I try my hardest to trade Yi for something of value without looking desperate before he is exposed as a complete bust in his 3rd year of NBA ball.

And to think this was the best package he was offered for RJ?

Disgusting.

Jersey Generals · Post #15 » by **Jersey Generals** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:21 am

Yi is hot-garbage, and I agree with Vince...4pres: I'm hoping to not see him on the roster next year.

S.I.C. GM · Post #16 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:57 pm

I agree that Yi shouldnt be starting, but I am not too convinced that he wont be a good player.

Once again Frank(or maybe Management) is being stubborn about this.

Remember Frank is the same guy that refused to bench Allen and Collins.

I think Yi needs a reality check and a bench translator.

Yi has the skills but is being used incorrectly. Yi should come off the bench preferably with No starters. Frank should calls plays for him either in the Post or ISO on the wings. Yi can drive and can post up.

Second Unit of Dooling, Hayes, Simmons/Hassel, Yi and SWAT can work but Yi has to come off the bench. Anyway Yi needs to come off the bench because he is always in Foul trouble in the 1st Q.

G_MoNeY · Post #17 » by **G_MoNeY** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:35 pm

I kind of disagree with this SIC. I think Yi is a spot-up jump shooter, which means someone has to create for him and allow him to set his feet and shoot. I don't think Yi works well with Harris because Harris needs the ball in his hands and either looks for his shot or VC. I think Yi needs more time with a Dooling/VC backcourt, but I do agree he needs to come off the bench. High-post sets or spot-up jump shooter. His court vision isn't very good and his ball handling isn't good enough for him to have ISO sets on the wing. One of my biggest isuses with Frank is not putting players (like Yi) in the right positions to succeed. If he gets some confidence playing to his strengths, more sets should be ran for him, but only AFTER he's got that confidence (which he showed in that 3 game spurt before he got injured)

Check out my Frank avatar.. LOL!

S.I.C. GM · Post #18 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:23 pm

G_MoNeY wrote:I kind of disagree with this SIC. I think Yi is a spot-up jump shooter, which means someone has to create for him and allow him to set his feet and shoot. I don't think Yi works well with Harris because Harris needs the ball in his hands and either looks for his shot or VC. I think Yi needs more time with a Dooling/VC backcourt, but I do agree he needs to come off the bench. High-post sets or spot-up jump shooter. His court vision isn't very good and his ball handling isn't good enough for him to have ISO sets on the wing. One of my biggest isuses with Frank is not putting players (like Yi) in the right positions to succeed. If he gets some confidence playing to his strengths, more sets should be ran for him, but only AFTER he's got that confidence (which he showed in that 3 game spurt before he got injured)

Check out my Frank avatar.. LOL!

G, I dont think that is the only aspect of his game. There have been moments when Harris and VC were not on the court and Yi became aggressive. If you remember the Olympics, it was the same thing. When Yao was on the court he was passive. I dont know if it is a cultural thing or personality thing but like Yao, aggression isnt there strong suits.

I remember one game where Frank put him on the court with the bench. A light switch turned on inside of Yi - I am the only starter on the court. He drove to the basket and went to the FT line. Then he posted up and did a nice turn around. They guy has many skills. As far as Yi handling, I think we havent seen much of Yi driving to the basket to even say that. The only thing Yi does is swing the ball over to Harris or VC and wait for the pick and roll. If he is open he will get the ball.

Problem with this team is Frank. I dont get why Frank believes in a one dimensional offense. Why cant it be broken up? Why does everything have to start with a Pick and Roll? Why not post ups? Why not Two Man games with Lopez or Yi? Why not screen plays? Why not some Princeton style offense plays?

Frank has so many types of players on this team to make it all about the Pick and Roll.

Yeah Yi has looked terrible, but under Frank everyone looks terrible. At some point Swat, Boone, Anderson, CDR, SImmons, Hassel, and now Yi have had unbalanced PT logged. Frank just sucks at knowing what is on his bench. For Christ Sake, Hassel has a jumper shot. There is something about the Frank's coaching style that really messes up these guys' head. Yeah I CANT STAND FRANK but all these guys can be productive put in the right position.

I hope there is a coaching change. I think Kiki has realized it. Thorn knows it but finance is more important right now.

Nets9 · Post #19 » by **Nets9** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:45 pm

Since you guys don't want Yi on the team.. trade him.. I think Golden state..or Sacromento..want yi..

MeMe · Post #20 » by **MeMe** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:58 pm

I don't buy the finance theory. They could easily hire an interim coach on the very, very, cheap, if they really didn't like Frank.

Off-topic, vc4pres, thanks for answering my question about Marv & Mike. I forgot to thank you earlier.