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No. I've seen Steph play about 10 times live in college since I went to college at Elon who is in the Southern Conference too. He's a great "college player." You do not draft a career bench player in the lottery. You draft a guy you think will be a starter on your team for the next decade. If he doesn't pan out, deal with it, but I will be furious if we waste the 11th pick on him.

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I would be OK with that selection. i think Curry will help this team, but i also don´t think he´ll be as good in pro as he was in college. Just take a look back: when we drafted Antoine Wright, he was coming from a terrific season in texas A&M. i think he averaged more than 20 ppg and Draftexpress compared him to Ray Allen(best case) or Eddie Jones(worst case).Look at him now, he´s pretty much a role player.
Im not comparing Stephen Curry to A.Wright, im just trying to explain that being great in college does not necessarily means the guy will be great at a nba level.Although, i think Stephen will be a good selection.however, i think the knicks will take him at 8th, or the bucks at 10th.
Im not comparing Stephen Curry to A.Wright, im just trying to explain that being great in college does not necessarily means the guy will be great at a nba level.Although, i think Stephen will be a good selection.however, i think the knicks will take him at 8th, or the bucks at 10th.
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As much I like S. Curry, I agree with prelude. I dont think he is a player you pick at 11.
If he slips down and Thorn trades the pick for a lower pick and whatever, then maybe. I also like Ellington for a low pick.
Though from what I have seen Curry probably has a better shot then Ellington.
No way we get Harden. I dont think Rozen will be on the board at 11. I am on the fence with Clark.
If he slips down and Thorn trades the pick for a lower pick and whatever, then maybe. I also like Ellington for a low pick.
Though from what I have seen Curry probably has a better shot then Ellington.
No way we get Harden. I dont think Rozen will be on the board at 11. I am on the fence with Clark.
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I don´t think DeRozen will be available when we pick, but if he´s, i´d take him and guess the nets would do too. E.Clark likely will,though and we may take him, since he play both the 3 and the 4.
I want the Nets to look at Dejuan Blair. He´s probably the best rebounder in this year´s draft and he could help us with that.
I want the Nets to look at Dejuan Blair. He´s probably the best rebounder in this year´s draft and he could help us with that.
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My only concern with Blair is he's a 6'6" PF. I think he's not gonna go as high as some people thing based on that reason and he really isn't that athletic. He does have a very good basketball IQ which will help him, but I don't think he'll ever be more than a solid role player because he's a PF with the size or a SF.
I sounded like I knocked Stephen a lot in my last post. I do love the kid. I've seen him plenty of times in person to know he can have a career in the NBA. If he was still available somewhere in the 20's and we drafted Earl at 11, I would be totally fine with us buying or trading back into the first round for him, however, someone will likely take him in the teens somewhere, but he is not a lottery pick in my opinion.
Earl is my boy. He's been my 2nd favorite player in college basketball for 2 years now. I think he'd be great next to Brook. Of course, that means Yi is likely to be shipped out of town, but we need to do what is best for the team.
If Derozan and Clark are there at 11 (one of them at least won't be but for argument sake), it'd be hard, but I think I'd have to go with Derozan. Within a month, I'm confident we could start him, move Vince to the 3 and have CDR back up both of them.
I sounded like I knocked Stephen a lot in my last post. I do love the kid. I've seen him plenty of times in person to know he can have a career in the NBA. If he was still available somewhere in the 20's and we drafted Earl at 11, I would be totally fine with us buying or trading back into the first round for him, however, someone will likely take him in the teens somewhere, but he is not a lottery pick in my opinion.
Earl is my boy. He's been my 2nd favorite player in college basketball for 2 years now. I think he'd be great next to Brook. Of course, that means Yi is likely to be shipped out of town, but we need to do what is best for the team.
If Derozan and Clark are there at 11 (one of them at least won't be but for argument sake), it'd be hard, but I think I'd have to go with Derozan. Within a month, I'm confident we could start him, move Vince to the 3 and have CDR back up both of them.

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Preludepunk27 wrote:No. I've seen Steph play about 10 times live in college since I went to college at Elon who is in the Southern Conference too. He's a great "college player." You do not draft a career bench player in the lottery. You draft a guy you think will be a starter on your team for the next decade. If he doesn't pan out, deal with it, but I will be furious if we waste the 11th pick on him.
I understand this sentiment, but I think you're being a little harsh here. Considering how bad this draft is, how many non-PGs that could be available at #11 really project as a long-term starter? Curry isn't my first choice for pick #11, but I'd hardly call it a "waste" pick, especially if guys like Earl Clark, Tyreke Evans and DemarDeRozan are gone.
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I don't see the management using this pick in a week draft, so my guess is they will sell or trade this pick, or maybe trade the pick to a higher draft pick in this same year for a better and talented player like somewhere around 2-4. I just don't see them getting a rookie who might demand to play while they have Brook, Anderson, CDR and Yi (who the Nets will not trade, i think, because he is Ratner's bread and butter right now) and they all played decent this season with the exception of Yi, post injury.
I also think that the two picks next year will be used for something else. If we are stuck with Harris and having brook and possibly Carter staying, we are only one high draft pick away or one big time trade for a PF, with signing a good, young FA.
Yi is not going anywhere and i hope you all realize that and the Nets management are doing everything including spending a lot of money just to advertise Yi and hoping to get a lot more money back in return. Hey, i would love to get rid of him too but it probably will not happen until his 4th or 5th year with us, if he decides to sign with us when his contract ends.
I kind of feel like the management is looking for an experienced young player thru free agency and i think thats the way to go. If we can afford Ariza then that would be awesome. The guys who are loving Clark i think will appreciate Ariza's game and will love him more because this guy is very hard worker, he may not have that star image yet or he may never will but this guy is what we need and he will bring a lot to the table with his improved shooting, athleticism, hustle and big time defense.
Ariza was bounced around a little bit from the Knicks, when he was raw, to the Magic, where they treated him like nobody, to the Lakers, where he became somewhat a star in my book. Plus, he is still young, improving and he will become a big-time player in the near future. I see him as two athletic Posey's ahehe.
I just like to stay positive and hopefully everything will go in our favor.
I also think that the two picks next year will be used for something else. If we are stuck with Harris and having brook and possibly Carter staying, we are only one high draft pick away or one big time trade for a PF, with signing a good, young FA.
Yi is not going anywhere and i hope you all realize that and the Nets management are doing everything including spending a lot of money just to advertise Yi and hoping to get a lot more money back in return. Hey, i would love to get rid of him too but it probably will not happen until his 4th or 5th year with us, if he decides to sign with us when his contract ends.
I kind of feel like the management is looking for an experienced young player thru free agency and i think thats the way to go. If we can afford Ariza then that would be awesome. The guys who are loving Clark i think will appreciate Ariza's game and will love him more because this guy is very hard worker, he may not have that star image yet or he may never will but this guy is what we need and he will bring a lot to the table with his improved shooting, athleticism, hustle and big time defense.
Ariza was bounced around a little bit from the Knicks, when he was raw, to the Magic, where they treated him like nobody, to the Lakers, where he became somewhat a star in my book. Plus, he is still young, improving and he will become a big-time player in the near future. I see him as two athletic Posey's ahehe.
I just like to stay positive and hopefully everything will go in our favor.
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If the Nets draft Dejaun Blair I will bust a cap in the face of the first person I see.
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NetsForce wrote:If the Nets draft Dejaun Blair I will bust a cap in the face of the first person I see.

Anyways, i like Blair, i think he's going to be an awesome player, a productive one. He has enough skills to compete with bigger players and wise enough to position himself around. If "big baby" Davis and Leon Powe can give other PF and C's a run for their money in this league then Blair should have a better career than them because he's a better talent. You guys are right, he's small, but same was said with Boozer and Brand. See, this height thing is a little tricky because it's hard who to trust when it comes to this guys real measurements. When Boozer and Brand entered the league, some said they were 6'8 or 6'9 and weighs 265 lbs or 255 lbs. It's crazy, so i thinking Blair may not be 6'6 and might be at least 6'7 or 6'8, and if he is, he will be alright because he has enough skills to cover his height. You guys need to remember that Blair is not a softy, he's a banger and he has the touch around the rim, heck, he even held his ground to a 7'3 Center.
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deviljets7 wrote:Preludepunk27 wrote:No. I've seen Steph play about 10 times live in college since I went to college at Elon who is in the Southern Conference too. He's a great "college player." You do not draft a career bench player in the lottery. You draft a guy you think will be a starter on your team for the next decade. If he doesn't pan out, deal with it, but I will be furious if we waste the 11th pick on him.
I understand this sentiment, but I think you're being a little harsh here. Considering how bad this draft is, how many non-PGs that could be available at #11 really project as a long-term starter? Curry isn't my first choice for pick #11, but I'd hardly call it a "waste" pick, especially if guys like Earl Clark, Tyreke Evans and DemarDeRozan are gone.
If that is the case, then you sell the pick to the higher bidder that doesn't know any better. I am not for drafting a guy just because it's a weak draft. He's coming out this year because next years draft is loaded from everything I read. We wait for someone to fall or trade out if Curry is the best player available once 11 rolls around.

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I'm not crazy about us picking Curry (KD owns his would-be role) or Blair, the only "moose" south of Blake that I see in the 1st round. He is short, though, and he has two problems that prevent him from being a bigtime contributor for us: fouls, and speed. In the DDM system, you can't afford to have two plodding bigs on the floor, especially if both are space-eaters as are DeJuan and Brook. The guards need floor spacing to take the most advantage of their dribble-drive, otherwise driving lanes get congested and passing options ripen for steals. Blair isn't a low-post weapon, he's just a guy that needs to be in the low-post to be effective. I know we need toughness and rebounding inside, but he is the definition of a square peg for our... well, you get the picture.
Of the players that could be available, I'm not crazy about any of them, unless someone drops to us. I wouldn't mind Lawson or Clark. Otherwise, I'd feel best if we traded down (w/CHI for #16 and #27? or w/MIN for #18 and #28???).
Of the players that could be available, I'm not crazy about any of them, unless someone drops to us. I wouldn't mind Lawson or Clark. Otherwise, I'd feel best if we traded down (w/CHI for #16 and #27? or w/MIN for #18 and #28???).
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He is exactly the player you pick at 11. Ben Gordon was picked at 7, look how that panned out? Saying he is a career bench player is a silly argument. Curry isn't one dimensional, he can actually handle the ball and pass too. His value just went up with the way Gordon and Allen have played. Heck look at Roger Mason, dead eye shooters are a luxury every good team needs. The Nets can play VC at 3, Curry at 2, and Lopez at the 1. Try and sign a 4 through FA, maybe Millsap. They are immediately a playoff type team with those moves. This is the one draft where picking in the lottery might be worse than picking out of it. If Curry is on the board, draft him ASAP. My only two choices at this point are Curry and Clark.
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I wouldn't mind drafting him at 11 because the guys I really want will all probably be gone. The only problem is starting Harris and Curry gives us a vulnerable backcourt defensively. We could get away with it if we satrted a longer T. Prince type player at the three with size and defense. Offensively that is a deadly backcourt though. Curry put up those types of numbers while all other teams game planned for him he had nobody else. I don't like the Reddick comparisons becuase Reddick had other guys so you couldn't just key on him. If he's there at 11 and guys like Clark, Derozen, Evans are gone which I think they will be. The second tier guys I would like to take a shot on are J. Johnson, Aminu, and Curry in no particular order.
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TheGrowth wrote:He is exactly the player you pick at 11. Ben Gordon was picked at 7, look how that panned out? Saying he is a career bench player is a silly argument. Curry isn't one dimensional, he can actually handle the ball and pass too. His value just went up with the way Gordon and Allen have played. Heck look at Roger Mason, dead eye shooters are a luxury every good team needs. The Nets can play VC at 3, Curry at 2, and Lopez at the 1. Try and sign a 4 through FA, maybe Millsap. They are immediately a playoff type team with those moves. This is the one draft where picking in the lottery might be worse than picking out of it. If Curry is on the board, draft him ASAP. My only two choices at this point are Curry and Clark.
Are you serious. Yeah he'd drop 30 a game this past season, but he also averaged like 6 turnovers. His assist-to-turnover ratio is pretty weak...and that was with him playing in the southern conference. The NBA is a completely different beast. He'll never be a starting PG in the NBA. Also...do you know how jacked Ben Gordon is? Do you know how fast Ben Gordon is? The ONLY things similar are that they're the same height and both can shoot the lights out when they're hot.
Roger Mason is also 6'5" and has about 30lbs on Curry. He's not a complete liability.
Only player you can compare Curry to is a slightly more athletic Chris Quinn.
Not a chance in hell of landing Millsap either. With Utah letting Boozer walk this offseason, they'd never in a million years let Millsap slip their the cracks.
Only thing I agree with you on is drafting Clark is he's there. If Curry truly is the best available at 11, trade trade down or out of the draft completely.

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TheGrowth wrote:He is exactly the player you pick at 11. Ben Gordon was picked at 7, look how that panned out? Saying he is a career bench player is a silly argument. Curry isn't one dimensional, he can actually handle the ball and pass too. His value just went up with the way Gordon and Allen have played. Heck look at Roger Mason, dead eye shooters are a luxury every good team needs. The Nets can play VC at 3, Curry at 2, and Lopez at the 1. Try and sign a 4 through FA, maybe Millsap. They are immediately a playoff type team with those moves. This is the one draft where picking in the lottery might be worse than picking out of it. If Curry is on the board, draft him ASAP. My only two choices at this point are Curry and Clark.
No thanks on this. Teams 1-3 would put up 30 points in the first quarter on that line up.
I like Curry but like some have said, he has a few issues and I really dont think he is good enough to pick at 11.
I do think he would work great IF Lopez becomes our first Offensive Option.
Imagine Harris, VC, Curry, Simmons(if he doesnt get traded), Hayes and Dooling getting passes out of the post when Lopez gets doubled.
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TheGrowth wrote:He is exactly the player you pick at 11. Ben Gordon was picked at 7, look how that panned out? Saying he is a career bench player is a silly argument. Curry isn't one dimensional, he can actually handle the ball and pass too. His value just went up with the way Gordon and Allen have played. Heck look at Roger Mason, dead eye shooters are a luxury every good team needs. The Nets can play VC at 3, Curry at 2, and Lopez at the 1. Try and sign a 4 through FA, maybe Millsap. They are immediately a playoff type team with those moves. This is the one draft where picking in the lottery might be worse than picking out of it. If Curry is on the board, draft him ASAP. My only two choices at this point are Curry and Clark.
Ben gordon was picked 3rd, not 7th.
And Lopez would start at the 5 NOT as PG.
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Ah even better then. People would be questioning why a 6 foot and under guard should be picked so high. How anyone can complain about Curry being picked at 11 is beyond me? In this draft, if you dont have the top 3 picks, everyone else is a wash. Griffin, Thabeet and maybe Rubio are the only surefire picks.
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Again, you keep saying he should go at 11, but the only reason he's coming out this year is because how week this draft is and how deep it is next year. He'd still be a first rounder next year, but he'd fall. Why draft a guy at 11 because there is nobody better? That's settling if I've ever heard one. If we're gonna settle, I'd rather trade the pick. You DON'T settle in the lottery. You can do that late in the 1st, but Curry is not worth that. Shooters are a dime a dozen in the NBA. I'm not about to settle and draft Curry at 11 and watch him get torched playing defense against any point guard or two guard in the NBA just so he can drop a few 3's every night.

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He fills a need. I mean if the Nets can trade the pick and pick up one next year, good for them, but if they can, and they must pick at 11, picking Curry is not a bad choice. You dont settle in the lottery, fine but when every other player after him isn't significantly better, its a moot point.
Shooters are a rare commodity nowadays, and Curry does much more than shoot, again he averaged over 6 apg on one of THE MOST offensively challenged teams in the nation. And yes whilst his defense will be a thing of concern, you are conveniently ignoring how his shooting will open up so much for his teammates. You dont need defensive stalwarts at every position to win games.
Shooters are a rare commodity nowadays, and Curry does much more than shoot, again he averaged over 6 apg on one of THE MOST offensively challenged teams in the nation. And yes whilst his defense will be a thing of concern, you are conveniently ignoring how his shooting will open up so much for his teammates. You dont need defensive stalwarts at every position to win games.
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TheGrowth wrote:He fills a need. I mean if the Nets can trade the pick and pick up one next year, good for them, but if they can, and they must pick at 11, picking Curry is not a bad choice. You dont settle in the lottery, fine but when every other player after him isn't significantly better, its a moot point.
Shooters are a rare commodity nowadays, and Curry does much more than shoot, again he averaged over 6 apg on one of THE MOST offensively challenged teams in the nation. And yes whilst his defense will be a thing of concern, you are conveniently ignoring how his shooting will open up so much for his teammates. You dont need defensive stalwarts at every position to win games.
No offense, you don't know what you're talking about. This team averages over 77.8 points a game as a team dude. This is my conference we're talking about here. Their team is a lot better than you think. Bob McKillop is a great coach. Their team is essentially the exact team as their run in the tourney 2 years ago minus Jason Richards.
Look I like Curry. I've had the pleasure of watching him up close 4-5 times a year since his Freshman year. I'm happy for all the success he's brought himself, Davidson, and our conference as a whole. With that said, the NBA is a completely different beast. In order for him to even be thought about as a starter in this league someday, he has to add 15-20lbs (about how much more Ben Gordon weighs on him who you keep comparing him to) and hopefully get into a system that doesn't focus on defense. He'd have a hard time under Lawrence Frank. Every time you listen to our leaders in the locker room, they stress defense. Curry is a high character guy that our management looks for, but I can't see them being interested in Curry any more than a luke warm interest.
Now with that said, if I HAD to draft someone at 11, here is my list of guys I'd rather have over Curry that potentially could be there:
Earl Clark (still around there on mock drafts and the guy I've wanted for 2 years now)
Terrence Williams
James Johnson (trust me he'll move up the board by draft night)
Wayne Ellington (stretch just like I feel Curry is, but he's just as good a shooter and is a true SG)
Gerald Henderson (all around talent. solid perimeter defender. glue guy. high IQ)
