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What do you think would you be interested in signing him and drafting Earl Clark to start at the 3?
That would leave up with a starting line-up of:
C - Brook
PF - Bass
SF - Clark
SG - VC
PG - Harris
http://netsarescorching.com/2009/05/22/ ... ndon-bass/
That would leave up with a starting line-up of:
C - Brook
PF - Bass
SF - Clark
SG - VC
PG - Harris
http://netsarescorching.com/2009/05/22/ ... ndon-bass/
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ya im down for that i was actually just thinking this exact thing earlier today haha
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Pugsley_2491 wrote:ya im down for that i was actually just thinking this exact thing earlier today haha
Great minds think alike....
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I like Bass, but I would rather James Johnson at the 3. Earl Clark is more of a 4 to me. I question Clark's heart, desire and focus as well.
I am sticking to my guns though. I still think we either trade up with Washington or Golden State and wind up with one of Harden or Hill.
I still think somethink like Yi/11th pick/GSW pick returned, for 7th overall/either Brandon Wright or Belinelli is likely. Maybe even Yi/GSW pick for the 7th pick and we keep the 11th?
I am sticking to my guns though. I still think we either trade up with Washington or Golden State and wind up with one of Harden or Hill.
I still think somethink like Yi/11th pick/GSW pick returned, for 7th overall/either Brandon Wright or Belinelli is likely. Maybe even Yi/GSW pick for the 7th pick and we keep the 11th?

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Yeah, Clark is totally a 4. Think along the lines of Carlos Boozer. Clark is a great athlete (my 2nd favorite player in college basketball), but he is more suited to playing the 4. If you want a true SF, we need to take James Johnson.

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Preludepunk27 wrote:Yeah, Clark is totally a 4. Think along the lines of Carlos Boozer. Clark is a great athlete (my 2nd favorite player in college basketball), but he is more suited to playing the 4. If you want a true SF, we need to take James Johnson.
I dont see much of Carlos Boozer in Earl Clakr - Clark can put the ball on the floor, hit the pull up J. I see more Lamar Odom. That being said, he would still be a terrific fit but i prefer Johnson becasue he seems to play angry
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As much as I am very big fan of Earl Clark, I think people are exaggerating some of his athletic ability. Guys like Odom don't come around very often. There aren't many guys in the NBA that are 6'9" or taller that can handle the ball as well as he can. With that being said, I don't think Clarks ballhandling skills belongs in the same breath as Odoms as of this moment. Obviously he can improve, and I hope he does. Not saying it's bad, but it's basically the same as a guy along the lines of a Boozer or David West in that they have the ability to put the ball on the floor and play face up to the basket, but would I be comfortable having Clark run the point? Not at all. Would I be comfortable having Odom run the point? I would question my own coaching skills if I didn't have a PG on the floor, but I wouldn't be scared to death because Odom can handle the ball extremely well. Clark will have to improve on that and make his midranger jumper more consistent before I start making the Odom comparison. For now, I'm comfortable with the Boozer comparisons. However, to each his own. I'd be fine with him on the Nets period wherever Frank decided to play him.
You're dead on with James Johnson though. I've seen him play live a few times, I think his coach handcuffs him at times because all the kid wants to do is attack attack attack. His style of play is better suited for the NBA. I'd love to see him in a Nets uniform.
You're dead on with James Johnson though. I've seen him play live a few times, I think his coach handcuffs him at times because all the kid wants to do is attack attack attack. His style of play is better suited for the NBA. I'd love to see him in a Nets uniform.

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Preludepunk27 wrote:As much as I am very big fan of Earl Clark, I think people are exaggerating some of his athletic ability. Guys like Odom don't come around very often. There aren't many guys in the NBA that are 6'9" or taller that can handle the ball as well as he can. With that being said, I don't think Clarks ballhandling skills belongs in the same breath as Odoms as of this moment. Obviously he can improve, and I hope he does. Not saying it's bad, but it's basically the same as a guy along the lines of a Boozer or David West in that they have the ability to put the ball on the floor and play face up to the basket, but would I be comfortable having Clark run the point? Not at all. Would I be comfortable having Odom run the point? I would question my own coaching skills if I didn't have a PG on the floor, but I wouldn't be scared to death because Odom can handle the ball extremely well. Clark will have to improve on that and make his midranger jumper more consistent before I start making the Odom comparison. For now, I'm comfortable with the Boozer comparisons. However, to each his own. I'd be fine with him on the Nets period wherever Frank decided to play him.
You're dead on with James Johnson though. I've seen him play live a few times, I think his coach handcuffs him at times because all the kid wants to do is attack attack attack. His style of play is better suited for the NBA. I'd love to see him in a Nets uniform.
I don't think Clark is on Odom's level yet, but as he develops he can be on that level. I also never said he had great handle to be a point, he has great handle for a 3/4 and for his height is what I meant. I think those comments were directed towards me, and if not, my bad, but my opinion still stands.
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SeabassP wrote:Preludepunk27 wrote:As much as I am very big fan of Earl Clark, I think people are exaggerating some of his athletic ability. Guys like Odom don't come around very often. There aren't many guys in the NBA that are 6'9" or taller that can handle the ball as well as he can. With that being said, I don't think Clarks ballhandling skills belongs in the same breath as Odoms as of this moment. Obviously he can improve, and I hope he does. Not saying it's bad, but it's basically the same as a guy along the lines of a Boozer or David West in that they have the ability to put the ball on the floor and play face up to the basket, but would I be comfortable having Clark run the point? Not at all. Would I be comfortable having Odom run the point? I would question my own coaching skills if I didn't have a PG on the floor, but I wouldn't be scared to death because Odom can handle the ball extremely well. Clark will have to improve on that and make his midranger jumper more consistent before I start making the Odom comparison. For now, I'm comfortable with the Boozer comparisons. However, to each his own. I'd be fine with him on the Nets period wherever Frank decided to play him.
You're dead on with James Johnson though. I've seen him play live a few times, I think his coach handcuffs him at times because all the kid wants to do is attack attack attack. His style of play is better suited for the NBA. I'd love to see him in a Nets uniform.
I don't think Clark is on Odom's level yet, but as he develops he can be on that level. I also never said he had great handle to be a point, he has great handle for a 3/4 and for his height is what I meant. I think those comments were directed towards me, and if not, my bad, but my opinion still stands.
It's all good. I actually wasn't directing my comments to you so no worries. I wasn't trying to sound annoyed or anything either to the person I did direct them to. It was just my observation because Clark is my 2nd favorite player in college basketball so I watch him a ton. If Clark had a consistent jumper, I would welcome the Odom comparison more. Seabass, you're right he has a great handle on the 3/4 position, but I think for the NBA, he's a 4. He's an athletic freak, but in the NBA, I think he'd have a hard time guarding a lot of quick 3's. It is what it is though. I'd be 100% fine with him on the Nets. There are not many drafts where there are 2-3 guys around our pick I'd be happy to land. Johnson, Clark, and DeRozan (even though I question this kid) I would be happy with right now at 11.

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My hope is for Milsap instead of Bass!!!
I disagree that Clark cant play the three spot. His outside shot is better than Johnson. Dont get me wrong I would be comfortable with either one.
I disagree that Clark cant play the three spot. His outside shot is better than Johnson. Dont get me wrong I would be comfortable with either one.
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I love how most of us are like "I'm fine if we took either Johnson or Clark" but I also find it equally interesting that the board seems split on who is better of the two. I also find it amusing that I love Earl Clark but as of this moment I would draft James Johnson. Of course I'll probably go back and forth on this fence once I read into more work outs. I love being a hypocrite right now though lol.
Both players I think have the ability to be proven starters in this league. I don't see many guys in this draft like them. Either way, I'd be happy, I just see Johnson as a more natural 3 which is why he's getting the edge right now in my eyes.
Both players I think have the ability to be proven starters in this league. I don't see many guys in this draft like them. Either way, I'd be happy, I just see Johnson as a more natural 3 which is why he's getting the edge right now in my eyes.

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Earl Clark doesn't really remind me of Boozer at all. More of Boris Diaw with better defense.

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I guess I'm way off from everyone else's observations on Clark I guess, but I stand by my opinion of him. I still think he's better suited at the 4 in the NBA every day of the week. Guess I'm in the minority there too though.

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Preludepunk27 wrote:I guess I'm way off from everyone else's observations on Clark I guess, but I stand by my opinion of him. I still think he's better suited at the 4 in the NBA every day of the week. Guess I'm in the minority there too though.
I agree with you that Clark is better suited for the 4, for sure. I just think Boozer is a bad comparison. Boozer is a down low banger with an top of the key jumper with little handle or face up game and suspect defense and he is at his best when playing with pass first playmakers.
Earl Clark is a face up guy with exceptional handle for a big man, very little back to the basket game and good defense and he is at his best when the offense is run through him.
I stand by my Boris Diaw comparison. Diaw is at his best when playing power forward as well, although he can play the 3 and even 5 as well.

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Starting to warm up to the idea of going after Bass. We would have to use the MLE (or part of it). What type of Contract do you think he receives and what type of contract do yo think he is worth? Dallas fans seem to think he should be resigned to 3-4 year deal at abour $4M or so per year.
If we did sign him, I think he would wind up starting at the 4, but its hard to project what he would do since he played only 20 minutes per game in Dallas, but he seemed to be productive (9 & 4) and relatively efficient (around 50% from the field and 80% from the line). He can knock down the outside jumper, bang down low, and is a very god athlete. Ive been a big fan of bringing in Boozer but perhaps going with Bass is a better option giving he would defintely cost less.
If we did sign him, I think he would wind up starting at the 4, but its hard to project what he would do since he played only 20 minutes per game in Dallas, but he seemed to be productive (9 & 4) and relatively efficient (around 50% from the field and 80% from the line). He can knock down the outside jumper, bang down low, and is a very god athlete. Ive been a big fan of bringing in Boozer but perhaps going with Bass is a better option giving he would defintely cost less.
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I always liked the idea of bass, but do Dallas fans think he'll honestly sign for that little? Christ, I think anyone would sign him if he could be had at like 4yrs/16 mill or 5yrs/20 mill. I was thinking since he's young and productive, people will sign him based on hoping he develops each year. I was thinking more like 5yrs/27-30 mill to be honest, most likely having a player option for the 4th or 5th year. If he works out, then they got a solid starting 4 locked up for a long time. If he doesn't, it's not an untradeable contract or he could be used as a quality filler.
Even in this economy, I think Dallas fans may be surprised how much a team may pay him.
Even in this economy, I think Dallas fans may be surprised how much a team may pay him.

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Preludepunk27 wrote:I always liked the idea of bass, but do Dallas fans think he'll honestly sign for that little? Christ, I think anyone would sign him if he could be had at like 4yrs/16 mill or 5yrs/20 mill. I was thinking since he's young and productive, people will sign him based on hoping he develops each year. I was thinking more like 5yrs/27-30 mill to be honest, most likely having a player option for the 4th or 5th year. If he works out, then they got a solid starting 4 locked up for a long time. If he doesn't, it's not an untradeable contract or he could be used as a quality filler.
Even in this economy, I think Dallas fans may be surprised how much a team may pay him.
Agreed. I could even see a team like Memphis throwing him a Wilcox like deal of 4 years for 30 mill just to make sure they get their man.

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