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With Harris giving his vote of confidence for the Nets to select Johnny Flynn or another PG, I was thinking a few things.

1) If we select Flynn, then Carter will start at SF, with Harris and Dooling at the 1 and 2. This takes care of one of our problem areas at SF and Harris even said, this line up has been discussed a lot by Frank and Thorn. I am ok with this aslong as PF is addressed somehow.

2) If we select Flynn, we still have a problem at the 4. Perhaps we are looking into acquiring another pick in the mid-teens to low twenties to select James Johnson, Earl Clark or Blair should one of the them be avaliable? I cant see us going into next year wih a PF rotation of Yi and Anderson. I would be ok with one of them (I prefer to Anderson) as the backup 4 to come in and spread the floor and hustle. But we need help as we have all discussed extensively.

2a) Who are some possible teams picking in teens to low twneties who could be getting rid of their pick and what could we offer? I dont see us paying $3M so I think it would be (1) a swap for a future pick or (2) part of another trade (possibilities??)

2b) if we acquire another 1st round pick without making any other moves, I beleive all 15 roster spots will be filled. Not sure Nets would be comfortable with this as they would have no flexibility.

2c) If we acquire a second 1st rounder, I thik that all bu takes us out of the Boozer sweepstakes.


3) Simmons will not see the floor if VC starts at the 3, with Hayes backing him up. EXCELLENT! Only way he plays is if we go small ball and he plays at the 4. Hopefully Frank does not do this again.

I do not want flynn.. A power forward who can start at some point this season is more important than a back up point guard

^^^ I agree with that. I'd rather go get a vet to play 5-10 minutes a game at the back up PG instead of drafting Flynn.

Flynn is a baller but I'd rather draft an Earl Clark...

i actually like the idea of having flynn on the team with the 11th pick... why not go after david lee via trade???

I love Lee, but I'm passing on him. He can't hit a jump shot outside of 7 feet. We need a guy who can spread the floor at the 4 so we don't clog the paint for Brook.

Preludepunk27 wrote:I love Lee, but I'm passing on him. He can't hit a jump shot outside of 7 feet. We need a guy who can spread the floor at the 4 so we don't clog the paint for Brook.

Exactly, plus he wants 8-figure money. IF, IF, IF we spend for a PF this offseason, I'd like to do it for a guy like Millsap, who is better and should be cheaper than Lee.

I'm not in love with Flynn, but as long as we sewed up the other issues in our lineup over the summer, I wouldn't be mad about taking him. I am not cool with going with a Harris-Dooling-Carter lineup ALL year long, though. That's a "look" you show every now and then, but teams would abuse it over long stretches of time.

ecuhus1981 wrote:

Preludepunk27 wrote:I love Lee, but I'm passing on him. He can't hit a jump shot outside of 7 feet. We need a guy who can spread the floor at the 4 so we don't clog the paint for Brook.

Exactly, plus he wants 8-figure money. IF, IF, IF we spend for a PF this offseason, I'd like to do it for a guy like Millsap, who is better and should be cheaper than Lee.

I'm not in love with Flynn, but as long as we sewed up the other issues in our lineup over the summer, I wouldn't be mad about taking him. I am not cool with going with a Harris-Dooling-Carter lineup ALL year long, though. That's a "look" you show every now and then, but teams would abuse it over long stretches of time.

I agree with that. I don't want flynn if we haven't made a move by draft night; however, if we traded for Boozer and still had #11, I'd be fine with Flynn or Lawson. Please note, whenever I trash them, it's because I don't want to take them at 11 AS OF THIS EXACT MOMENT.

I don't want Lawson at all. At best a good career backup, at best.

vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't want Lawson at all. At best a good career backup, at best.

But isn't Flynn the same? I'm a big east fan (st. johns) and I live in NC so I have to say I've seen both of these guys a ton. I actually don't like either of them as NBA prospects at #11, but Lawson is head and shoulders above Flynn when we talk about an all around game in my opinion. That's hard for me to say too cause I HATE UNC. I don't think either are worth taking at 11, but that's just my opinion.

Hell Eric Maynor is gonna be better than half these PG's anyway.

Hell, I'd still draft James Johnson or Earl Clark regardless of what we do leading up to the draft..then sign...wait for it...Marcus Williams (vomit now) again for circus peanuts. He'd play 5 minutes a game anyway. I don't see why we need to give a backup PG so much guaranteed money by drafting him unless we don't view Harris as our PG for the next 5 years.

I absolutely agree with you about Maynor. Maynor is the man. One of my favorite prospects in this draft.
Can't agree with you on Lawson though. I don't know if I buy the hype on Flynn, but I believe he is much better then Lawson and will translate to the NBA much more effectively.

I would rather draft Clark or Johnson over a point guard as well, but I believe the thinking is (Rod, Kiki, newspapers) that Clark will be gone and maybe they feel Johnson isn't as good an overall prospect as some of the point guards that are still on the board, especially if Brandon Jennings is still there.
Last year Rod was quoted saying that if Charlotte or Milwaukee had taken Lopez they were going to go BPA, who they believed was Jarred Bayless. Jarred Bayless? Really?!!
See, that's what scares me about Thorn.
Honestly, he doesn't draft too well.
Honestly, he's pretty much $hit at drafting.

I mean with the exception of the deal that sent Griffin to Houston for RJ, Collins and Armstrong, who has he ever taken that wound up really good? On top of that, although Twin was an important piece for a while, there were much better guys to draft at that spot and Armstrong was an epic bust.
There was Brendan Haywood, Gerald Wallace, Tony Parker, Dalembert, Tinsley and Gilbert freakin' Arenas, that ALL went after even Armstrong, with the exception of Haywood, who only went after Collins.
You can try to make the arbument that you don't know how players are going to pan out in a draft, but that is just an absurd amount of big time talent that went after both of the players he took after RJ. I mean an absurd amount, and it's not like most of these guys were reaches and not a single one was a reach at the pick Armstrong was drafted at.

Who else?
Brook? A complete no brainer and gift from the basketball gods.
Ryan Anderson was Kiki's guy.
Chris Douglas Roberts was again a complete no brainer.

Marcus Williams, I will admit I was very high on as well, but there were still other obvious options and Josh Boone was really somewhat of a reach, and in my eyes a safety pick to try and keep Marcus in line, figuring him and Boone were college teammates and friends.

Antoine Wright?!

Zoran Planinic? Oh, there's a gem.

Sean Williams, yeah he had upside, but again, a headcase and look at some of the guys that went after him. Carl LAndry, Rudy Fernandez, Wilson Chandler and Belinelli. Damn.

Nenad Krstic? Yeah he was a great pick, but Rod took him in 2002 and it is highly rumored to the evidenced extent that it's basically fact that they took him because San An and Sacto were unbelievably high on him and those 2 teams were like the bible on drafting Euro's at the time, so the upside was just to great to pass on.

Hell he, basically sold the 2004 pick to PDX and 1 and 3 picks later Delonte West and Kevin Martin were drafted, respectively.

Kiki might be a little better, then again he wasted a high lotto on Skita and it was rumored if Joe D didn't make the amazing blunder and draft Darko, someone else would have Melo right now.

I fear for this draft, unless another no brainer falls to us, or he trades up for someone like Harden, Hill, maybe DeRozan or he takes James Johnson.

I like Jarred Bayless...

To use a first round pick on a 3rd string PG tells me something else would be up. But to think that we need a PF is also suspect that would mean addressing the position for past three drafts.