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Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:29 pm
by amk482
any thoughts? Chad Ford says he could be moved. Think he would be a good fit as our PF of the future?

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:31 pm
by Hansel
He'd be a good fit but I don't see how we reasonably get him.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:07 pm
by Preludepunk27
I think he would fit our team nicely, but honestly, I don't like him as a human being. I think his immaturity started showing a lot last year, and became a focal point of talk at times during the playoffs. He gets paid a ton, he doesn't show heart all the time, only looking for the highlight real a lot, and have ZERO leadership skills. Yes we have Vince and Devin for that, but at some point, Vince won't be around and as much as I love Devin, I don't think he's a strong enough leader to do it himself. I always think players who make that much should be elite talents as well as elite leaders. Smith doesn't fit that mold to me. You could say it's because he's still young but if you get paid that much, you have to do more than produce on the court in my opinion. Otherwise he'll just be called the "Front Court Corey Maggette."

I'm just saying, if you look at the elite teams over the past few years, if you look at their starting 5, a good amount of them have at least 3-4 guys in their starting 5 with above average leadership qualities. Then a lot of them use 1-2 guys on the bench (you don't have to be a star to be a leader) that show those qualities as well. We could probably contain Smith if Brook starts showing those skills. You can already see it in Anderson and CDR they can grow into leaders. Keyon and Jarvis clearly have them, so I think if the team wanted and could land him, he'd conform. Just right now, I don't like Smith as a person.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:12 pm
by deviljets7
I like Smith, but I don't see how NJ can get their hands on them. Even if they go into salary dump mode, I tend to doubt that Smith for expirings and #11 is enough to get it done.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:14 pm
by Hansel
Preludepunk27 wrote:I think he would fit our team nicely, but honestly, I don't like him as a human being. I think his immaturity started showing a lot last year, and became a focal point of talk at times during the playoffs. He gets paid a ton, he doesn't show heart all the time, only looking for the highlight real a lot, and have ZERO leadership skills. Yes we have Vince and Devin for that, but at some point, Vince won't be around and as much as I love Devin, I don't think he's a strong enough leader to do it himself. I always think players who make that much should be elite talents as well as elite leaders. Smith doesn't fit that mold to me. You could say it's because he's still young but if you get paid that much, you have to do more than produce on the court in my opinion. Otherwise he'll just be called the "Front Court Corey Maggette."

I'm just saying, if you look at the elite teams over the past few years, if you look at their starting 5, a good amount of them have at least 3-4 guys in their starting 5 with above average leadership qualities. Then a lot of them use 1-2 guys on the bench (you don't have to be a star to be a leader) that show those qualities as well. We could probably contain Smith if Brook starts showing those skills. You can already see it in Anderson and CDR they can grow into leaders. Keyon and Jarvis clearly have them, so I think if the team wanted and could land him, he'd conform. Just right now, I don't like Smith as a person.


Yeah, I agree with this. His attitude is not the best and it would be great to put together a team with championship attitude/desire. Those teams play above their heads.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:16 pm
by treiz
ZOMG! Hansel! you're back!

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:04 pm
by NetsForce
They'd ask for Devin Harris at which point I'd come flying in through the glass windows pick up the shards of broken glass and pin the Hawks GM to his chair, telling him that if he ever offered such a trade again more than just his pride would be broken.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:19 pm
by The_Dude_abides
You're obviously not familiar with the Hawks organization. They tend to avoid talented young point guards like the goddamn plague

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:49 am
by halfHAVOC
josh smith has the WORST shot selection i have ever seen.

atleast a guy like jamaal crawford can make those rediculous shots.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:07 am
by NetsForce
halfHAVOC wrote:josh smith has the WORST shot selection i have ever seen.

atleast a guy like jamaal crawford can make those rediculous shots.


Tyrus Thomas is angry at you.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:05 am
by The_Dude_abides
Spoken like two people who haven't watched Kris Humphries play.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:02 pm
by EFF
No josh smith please. Dont want to get stuck with this guy and his unreasonably large contract.

His athleticism mitigates the fact that he has a subpar basketball IQ. He's also one of the biggest crybabies ive ever seen and doesn't play with heart. Not really a player you are proud of. All he can really do consistently is jump and run the floor. Not worth the money he will eventually get paid.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:46 am
by vincecarter4pres
Preludepunk27 wrote:I think he would fit our team nicely, but honestly, I don't like him as a human being. I think his immaturity started showing a lot last year, and became a focal point of talk at times during the playoffs. He gets paid a ton, he doesn't show heart all the time, only looking for the highlight real a lot, and have ZERO leadership skills. Yes we have Vince and Devin for that, but at some point, Vince won't be around and as much as I love Devin, I don't think he's a strong enough leader to do it himself. I always think players who make that much should be elite talents as well as elite leaders. Smith doesn't fit that mold to me. You could say it's because he's still young but if you get paid that much, you have to do more than produce on the court in my opinion. Otherwise he'll just be called the "Front Court Corey Maggette."

I'm just saying, if you look at the elite teams over the past few years, if you look at their starting 5, a good amount of them have at least 3-4 guys in their starting 5 with above average leadership qualities. Then a lot of them use 1-2 guys on the bench (you don't have to be a star to be a leader) that show those qualities as well. We could probably contain Smith if Brook starts showing those skills. You can already see it in Anderson and CDR they can grow into leaders. Keyon and Jarvis clearly have them, so I think if the team wanted and could land him, he'd conform. Just right now, I don't like Smith as a person.

This is a great post.

Re: Josh Smith

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:48 am
by vincecarter4pres
halfHAVOC wrote:josh smith has the WORST shot selection i have ever seen.

atleast a guy like jamaal crawford can make those rediculous shots.

NetsForce wrote:Tyrus Thomas is angry at you.

The_Dude_abides wrote:Spoken like two people who haven't watched Kris Humphries play.

This sequence of posts is slathered in win. :lol: