How many wins?

[Da big3]

How many u got we are gonna be terrible anybody that says 40 will need to have their brain checked i say anywhere from 20-35 games and we will finish 4th or 5th in the divison weve got pieces, we arent thunder bad i think, i view this season as a growth season this is what happend with the trailblazers...

[NetsForce]

The Nets will make the playoffs this season. Real Talk.

[Preludepunk27]

I'm gonna say if we hit 30 wins, we overachieved. Also, if I was Frank I'd open up the offense and just go to a run and gun. We'd still lose a ton of games, but we'd at least be exciting to watch.

[vincecarter4pres]

Right now I'm going 28 games, but there's a lot of offseason left where possible moves are made and I can't decide how the pieces fit with that maroon Opie in charge.

I think we have just as good a chance at the playoffs if we remain healthy and gel as we do winning only 21 games and having the 2nd worst record in the league if we have some games missed for key players like Devin or Lee and lockerroom problems due to certain vets not getting burn...

[NJ To BK]

I hate being in the middle every year...thats why we always end up with the tenth pick or higher. Some teams suck. Some teams make the play offs. And were in the middle. I never thought i would say this but I want the nets to suck next year. Like grizzles suck. I want one more great draft pick before we start contending again.

[Vitamin]

I think we will win around 15 games, our team isn't that great and I don't know if Courtney Lee will be that much a factor on our team but I hope I'm wrong.

I hope we land a top 5 pick to add to our future Dynasty

[S.I.C. GM]

I think we are going to be better then what most people think.

It is going to suck, because that means another pick in the 9-14 range.

I would like this team to develop and be competitive, but I dont want to mess up a chance to get the 1-7 pick.

[jeff1624]

18-25 wins.

[ChampionRed]

32 wins. I think we're going to overachieve this season.

[enetric]

If this is it...if we arent go ing to make a trade that lands anyone of all star caliber quality...which I do not expect we will do...then?

It would be an absolute shame if we overachieve. If this is the basic roster...the goal is to beat the Nix every time we face them...and lose ever other game we play. We are playing for 2-3 years from now...NOT THIS YEAR. TO what end is winning 30 games this season if it costs us a shot at a great draft pick who could give us contender status for years to come?????

Think it through.....

2009-2010....the year of the SUCKING....thank god.

[vincecarter4pres]

I hate being in the middle every year...thats why we always end up with the tenth pick or higher. Some teams suck. Some teams make the play offs. And were in the middle. I never thought i would say this but I want the nets to suck next year. Like grizzles suck. I want one more great draft pick before we start contending again.

I hate to say it, but I agree.

I think we are going to be better then what most people think.

It is going to suck, because that means another pick in the 9-14 range.

I would like this team to develop and be competitive, but I dont want to mess up a chance to get the 1-7 pick.

Same again, I hate to say it, but I agree.

If this is it...if we arent go ing to make a trade that lands anyone of all star caliber quality...which I do not expect we will do...then?

It would be an absolute shame if we overachieve. If this is the basic roster...the goal is to beat the Nix every time we face them...and lose ever other game we play. We are playing for 2-3 years from now...NOT THIS YEAR. TO what end is winning 30 games this season if it costs us a shot at a great draft pick who could give us contender status for years to come?????

Think it through.....

2009-2010....the year of the SUCKING....thank god.

I hear you, but you make it sound like this is the actual goals of the players on the roster.
They are going to have an enormous chip on their shoulders, especially Devin Harris.
They're going to play their hearts out and their asses off every night.
We don't really have the talent to win too many games, but if the stars, planets and the moons align, and Brook becomes a legit 20/10 guy, Devin goes ape ship and goes for like 26/8.5 while making people around him better, all the role guys step up and provide maximum effort and production, Courtney Lee becomes a 17ppg scorer with high efficiency and good defense and we remain close to injury free... we are still probably looking at a 37 win season, lmao... boy would that suck.
The crappy, scary part is, although extremely young and inexperienced, we are talented enough for some garbage like that to happen.
Sigh...

[enetric]

I didnt make it sound like anything. I am not predicting that the players and coaches will do anything other than what they are piad to do. I taked about what I see from this roster. And that is...straight up suckage.

You know what is wrong with you premise? Count how many times you used the word IF.

Do it the other way now. What if Devin Harris misses 15+ games...not far fetched.

What IF those other guys produce stats...so what? Stats do not equal wins. Someone has to score. Even if you are the worst offensive team in the NBA...someone will have good averages on your team. Ever look at the Clips roster? The team with the top pick. They were loaded with stat monsters last season. Means nothing.

I think this team can develop its talent and STILL lose a TON of games. Learing to put up stats and learning to win a lot of games are two different things. See Granger...see Durant...and those are MUCH better players. There are more than the fair share of Z-barf's around.

It takes time to learn to win. Sending VC out should make us lose a lot more. Even if we were to trade for a Boozer like we are kicking around in the other thread. I still think we will lose more games. The team is in flux. I see talent that can play...I do not see a lot of talent that is ready to win.

Will be happy for growth and losses....

[doughboy29]

now dont call me crazy but i could see us being a .500 team. We have an all-star piont guard in harris, an nba finals starting two guard in clee, the number 11 pick in terrense williams at sf, a very very good 5 in brook. the only starting position im not sure about is the 4 but we can go small with simmons like we did last year or we could have swat and brook out there at the same time. or maybe even yi if he learns to play in the nba. but i think sean can be a game changer if frank will give him playing time, before the incident in denver he was playing very good and i think he has alot more to show if he gets a shot.

then off the bench we have skip a starting player from the finals last year, and he is very very happy to be in the tri-state area. then dooling can move between the 1 and 2 like hes used to hayes is instant offence off the bench and cdr looked great at the end last year and will be a factor and if boone can make some free throws he'll be fine

the only thing i think that will hold us back is frank he needs to let go a little and let them play free. we have a young athletic yet experience harris played wit dallas on that great team, clee and skip played in the finals last season cdr played wit vince last year twill played in louisville and knows how to win (i.e. big east champion)

and at .500 i think were in contention two make the playoffs i dont think atlanta or the bulls (without gordon) makes it and thats were we slip in at 8

well we can always hope, i think we underachieved last year, look how many games they let slip away especily at the end like against bucks, wolves, two against the celtics aginst the lakers and that cavs game in clevland (w/o harris) and the knick game at the end cause we were already out and those r just a couple and that would have made us 41 and 41 and not to mention that home game against the blazers at home which would have gave us a winning record. WOW what could have been

so not only is it possilbe its likly that we will be around .500

[vincecarter4pres]

I didnt make it sound like anything. I am not predicting that the players and coaches will do anything other than what they are piad to do. I taked about what I see from this roster. And that is...straight up suckage.

You know what is wrong with you premise? Count how many times you used the word IF.

Do it the other way now. What if Devin Harris misses 15+ games...not far fetched.

What IF those other guys produce stats...so what? Stats do not equal wins. Someone has to score. Even if you are the worst offensive team in the NBA...someone will have good averages on your team. Ever look at the Clips roster? The team with the top pick. They were loaded with stat monsters last season. Means nothing.

I think this team can develop its talent and STILL lose a TON of games. Learing to put up stats and learning to win a lot of games are two different things. See Granger...see Durant...and those are MUCH better players. There are more than the fair share of Z-barf's around.

It takes time to learn to win. Sending VC out should make us lose a lot more. Even if we were to trade for a Boozer like we are kicking around in the other thread. I still think we will lose more games. The team is in flux. I see talent that can play...I do not see a lot of talent that is ready to win.

Will be happy for growth and losses....

Dude, I was never disagreeing with you.
I am also not equating stats to winning games what so ever, either.
I even said if all the ifs went our way, we're still probably on the outside looking in, somewhere around 37 wins and I even laughed at it, even though as a fan it wouldn't be funny.

I still think, as is, we overachieve, but to me, with this roster, overachieving will likely be around 25 to 30 wins including the almost inevitable injuries.
I called it at 28 wins for now, but I'll save my official prediction for late October.

[enetric]

I hear you. I am not saying its not possible. I am simply saying...its A LOT OF IFS. And most of the time you are lucky to get half your ifs come true.

We didnt factor in injuries...and failed what ifs...so? it could go the other way. Harris could put up great stats...and with no VC? We lose a lot more games.

Who knows. All I am saying is...I am rooting to SUCK NUTS...but have the what ifs translate into growth.

I think too many fans look at game predictions like a validation for how the ifs came together. I say bullcrap to that.

Lopez, Lee, Yi, T.Williams can all show growth next year...and we can STILL lose 60 games. It happens all the time.

So...that is why I say...I am rooting for growth and losses if the roster stays at this level of talent for 2009-2010.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yeah, I agree with you, I am pretty much hoping we're very bad and win between 20 and 25 games.
The chances we actually make the playoffs are so friggin slim it's not even worth talking about unless it was around the Allstar break and it was actually a reality.
That said, just like you and a few others have discussed, the worst thing in the world is to be a mediocre team like we were last season, not enough wins for the playoffs, not enough losses for a really good lottery pick.

Here's to a top 5 pick...

[enetric]

Do you remeber when I sued to say that and I had to argue with guys around here? People used to think I was nuts when I used to say...worst thing is to be mediocre...and I rooted for us to miss the playoffs the years I knew we would get swept by the Heat...

If you cant contend or see that you are developing on hte path to contention...SUCK. SUCK HARD.

[SteveNets15]

Yea we had no business in the playoffs vs miami that year we traded for VC.We could've ended up with a good draft pick that year.Instead we ended up with Antoine Wright.

[vincecarter4pres]

We also could have wound up with Danny Granger.

Contrary to popular belief, Thorn isn't a great drafter, at least when a no brainer doesn't fall his way or when he doesn't have a top pick.

[Hansel]

Picking 10th is terrible. I think the team is a little underrated and will win something like 27-32 games, which would kind of suck if it was the high end. Top-5 pick would be amazing and then forget the lotto for a long time.