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The balls were bouncing and people yelling inside the Nets’ newly coined PNY Center. Training camp started today with optimism and chips on everyone’s shoulder to prove that all those who picked 20-30 wins are wrong.

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Coach Lawrence Frank is so focused on it that he doesn’t even want to talk about the other end of the floor.

When do you start doing the offense?
“We’re not doing offense.”

Ever?
“No.”

In your life?
“No.”

Ever?
“We’re going to play some defense. We’re playing defense.”

So you’re going to….?
“Defense. Score off your defense.”

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NetsForce wrote:

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There's a new bandwagon in town, jump on or jump in front of it.

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There's a new bandwagon in town, jump on or jump in front of it.

S.I.C. GM wrote:Once again Frank talking more then thinking.

I like the Frank year mantra of Defense. Though I am not totally against on focusing on D, but how long will this go on. These guys also need to get comfortable with each other on Offense. They need the transition away from that Dribble Drive BS from last year. Lopez needs to work on passing out of the post, Yi needs to work on his post moves, Harris/Lee/CDR/Twill/Hayes need to work with Lopez on re-posts and cuts to the basket, and I COULD GO ON AND ON. Yeah Frank wants to work on Defense and getting points from DEFENDING but there is more this team can do.

Unlike the old Nets team, This team has the potential to be a better half court team. Run and gun is going to work until teams stop that. FRANK is neglecting the half court. This is going to lead to a 15-15 start after 30 games.

Revolutionistt wrote:

S.I.C. GM wrote:Once again Frank talking more then thinking.

I like the Frank year mantra of Defense. Though I am not totally against on focusing on D, but how long will this go on. These guys also need to get comfortable with each other on Offense. They need the transition away from that Dribble Drive BS from last year. Lopez needs to work on passing out of the post, Yi needs to work on his post moves, Harris/Lee/CDR/Twill/Hayes need to work with Lopez on re-posts and cuts to the basket, and I COULD GO ON AND ON. Yeah Frank wants to work on Defense and getting points from DEFENDING but there is more this team can do.

Unlike the old Nets team, This team has the potential to be a better half court team. Run and gun is going to work until teams stop that. FRANK is neglecting the half court. This is going to lead to a 15-15 start after 30 games.

if you ask any nets fan, theyll take that!

S.I.C. GM wrote:

Revolutionistt wrote:

S.I.C. GM wrote:Once again Frank talking more then thinking.

I like the Frank year mantra of Defense. Though I am not totally against on focusing on D, but how long will this go on. These guys also need to get comfortable with each other on Offense. They need the transition away from that Dribble Drive BS from last year. Lopez needs to work on passing out of the post, Yi needs to work on his post moves, Harris/Lee/CDR/Twill/Hayes need to work with Lopez on re-posts and cuts to the basket, and I COULD GO ON AND ON. Yeah Frank wants to work on Defense and getting points from DEFENDING but there is more this team can do.

Unlike the old Nets team, This team has the potential to be a better half court team. Run and gun is going to work until teams stop that. FRANK is neglecting the half court. This is going to lead to a 15-15 start after 30 games.

if you ask any nets fan, theyll take that!

This team is going to be better then what people think. This team has the make up of the 2001-02 Nets team. Remember that team wasnt an offensive team. It was all about Defense and fast break points. The one thing this team has that that team didnt, this team is a better half court offensive team. Will they win 52 games? I dont think so.

Harris = Kidd
Lee = Kittles
Twill = K-Marts heart and Defense without the blocks
Yi = Potential to be a better KVH
Lopez = better then MacCulloch
CDR = RJ rookie year
Bench Now = Bench Then

If Harris commits to D and gets his teammates involved, he is equivalent to Kidd.
If Lee does what I think he can, play D, run the floor, finish at the basket and hit open jumpers, we have a Kittles.
If Yi can average 12pts 6rbs, I can see a KVH comparison here.
Lopez is better then MacCulloch and Collins.
Twill though he isnt playing the Position and going to bring the same stats, but IMO he fills what the Nets have lacked over the years, Heart. IMO Twill will be our K-Mart.
Hopefully CDR can produce what RJ did in his rookie year, 9pts 3 rbs. I think he may do more.

Back to what you are saying Rev, If this team could be 15-15 that means at that point there are atleast over 5 games that were lost because of Frank. That is what happens every year. Frank tries to implement something new and it takes 30 games to get it right every year. The guy has no convictions. He is like Kerry, Flip Flop Frank.

SOUP wrote:
There is no way in HELL Harris in his prime = Kidd in his prime. I repeat myself, NO WAY IN HELLLLLLLLLLL. Yi hasn't done crap yet, and most of the off-season talk is just hype. Given that, I still think we take the 8th seed. This season we will go as far as Yi takes us.

SOUP wrote:Just telling it like it is. Not really a Kidd fan boy, but your logic is pretty flawed. Harris doesn't have the leadership and heart that Kidd had in those days. Kidd was also a great defender, you forgot about all those steals that lead to easy fastbreak points?

S.I.C. GM wrote:

Revolutionistt wrote:

S.I.C. GM wrote:Once again Frank talking more then thinking.

I like the Frank year mantra of Defense. Though I am not totally against on focusing on D, but how long will this go on. These guys also need to get comfortable with each other on Offense. They need the transition away from that Dribble Drive BS from last year. Lopez needs to work on passing out of the post, Yi needs to work on his post moves, Harris/Lee/CDR/Twill/Hayes need to work with Lopez on re-posts and cuts to the basket, and I COULD GO ON AND ON. Yeah Frank wants to work on Defense and getting points from DEFENDING but there is more this team can do.

Unlike the old Nets team, This team has the potential to be a better half court team. Run and gun is going to work until teams stop that. FRANK is neglecting the half court. This is going to lead to a 15-15 start after 30 games.

if you ask any nets fan, theyll take that!

This team is going to be better then what people think. This team has the make up of the 2001-02 Nets team. Remember that team wasnt an offensive team. It was all about Defense and fast break points. The one thing this team has that that team didnt, this team is a better half court offensive team. Will they win 52 games? I dont think so.

Harris = Kidd
Lee = Kittles
Twill = K-Marts heart and Defense without the blocks
Yi = Potential to be a better KVH
Lopez = better then MacCulloch
CDR = RJ rookie year
Bench Now = Bench Then

If Harris commits to D and gets his teammates involved, he is equivalent to Kidd.
If Lee does what I think he can, play D, run the floor, finish at the basket and hit open jumpers, we have a Kittles.
If Yi can average 12pts 6rbs, I can see a KVH comparison here.
Lopez is better then MacCulloch and Collins.
Twill though he isnt playing the Position and going to bring the same stats, but IMO he fills what the Nets have lacked over the years, Heart. IMO Twill will be our K-Mart.
Hopefully CDR can produce what RJ did in his rookie year, 9pts 3 rbs. I think he may do more.

Back to what you are saying Rev, If this team could be 15-15 that means at that point there are atleast over 5 games that were lost because of Frank. That is what happens every year. Frank tries to implement something new and it takes 30 games to get it right every year. The guy has no convictions. He is like Kerry, Flip Flop Frank.