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Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2009 11:06 pm
by ironslave
Hello all, first post here. I'm from Canada, so I'm not Nets fanboy, but I did live in Ohio and went to high school close to where LBJ went, so I've been a big Lebron fan since. I've carefully looked it, and I've come to the conclusion that Lebron will go to the Nets, as it would be the best scenario for him from both a business standpoint, and most importantly, a competitive standpoint to win championships. Here's why.


1) Lebron wants to win championships, first and foremost. His best chance to do this will be in Jersey with the Nets.
-They already have an all star point guard in Devin Harris, who should become even better.
- Brook Lopez will be in his 3rd year, he is already one of the best young centers in the NBA, will be even better by 2010.

2) The Nets absolutely suck this year. Many people think that this is a bad thing as Lebron won't want to go to a lousy team, but saying Lebron won't go to the Nets because they suck this year is SO wrong. It means they will have a high draft pick for next year in what appears to be a very strong draft. They are 0-6, dead last in the league. If they win the lottery, or even pick in it, they could get a very good player for a great rookie price.

Dream scenario for the Nets (and I believe, this would completely seal the deal for getting Lebron to go to the nets) would be If they get the top overall pick, then they could get John Wall who has
been described as a better version of Derrick Rose . The thing about this though, they'd have to ship out Harris likely, but they would definitely be able to do that since he has a great contract. Who would they ship Harris to?.....

The Cleveland Cavaliers, in a sign and trade (6 year max contract) for Lebron. If the Cavs don't do this, they lose Lebron anyway for nothing, and he still signs with the Nets. It would be in their best interest to essentially be given an all star point guard on a very reasonable salary. Why would the Nets give up Harris for nothing, assuming they will get Lebron anyway in free agency? This would give them Lebron's "Bird Rights." With Lebron's bird rights, they now have all the cap room in the world to go out and:

3) sign Chris Bosh to a max contract too. Lebron has said that he wants to play with his Olympic team mates, the best fit would easily be Bosh, as he is a dominant power forward, arguably the best PF in the league right now, rather than a perimeter player like Wade.

Note, as of now, we could theoretically have a starting line up of:

PG- Wall
SG- Lee (who is decent himsel)
SF- Lebron,
PF- Bosh
C- Lopez

But, if they are going to have both Lebron and Bosh on the roster with max contracts, while they will be allowed to spend more than the salary cap because they have Lebron's Bird Rights from the sign and trade, sending Harris to the Cavs, they would be likely way above the luxury tax line. So, the Nets would need an owner who is willing to spend luxury tax money. This is possible, with the Nets being bought by:

4) Russian Billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, worth about 10 billion dollars, which would make him the NBA's 2nd wealthiest owner (next to the Blazers Paul Allen, of Microsoft/Vulcan fame). The thing about Prokhorov though is that he is willing to pay whatever it takes to win, and would not give a **** whatsoever how much the Nets overspend the salary cap, and have to pay luxury taxes. This is a guy that will take a 2 week vacation that costs him 10 million dollars at the most exclusive resorts, spends millions on private jets, girls, and he even spent almost $19,000 when he picked up the tab for a lunch! Who knows the amount of "under the table" bonuses he's willing to give his players for winning.

Bottom line, this guy is willing to spend like Steinbrenner if that is what it takes to win. I'm not entirely positive how the NBA's cap works, but I think I have an idea. Since it is a soft cap, the Nets could spend essentially whatever they want, with once they exceed the "tax level", they have to pay the NBA a luxury tax of "one dollar to the League for each dollar by which their payroll exceeds the tax level", which is normally redistributed to teams that are under the luxury tax line.

5) Jay-Z being part of the ownership group. Lebron and Jay-Z are very close friends, with Lebron looking up to Jay-Z as a mentor in business endeavors. Jay-Z just started a company, Translational Advertising. This article describes the mind boggling, completely limitless sponsorship opportunities that would be available for Lebron by playing in New Jersey.

6) The Nets are likely moving to Brooklyn in 2011. This brings
- A new stadium, which the current design shows is essentially a palace.
Image. What an incredible building, which you can bet with Lebron playing there from its inception, would likely be forever nicknamed as the "King's Castle".

- Lebron playing in a huge market, which would certainly make Nike and his other sponsors happy, which I'm sure would lead to more money for him.

So, with all this in mind, the Nets are by far the best fit for Lebron, he could win multiple championships, garner even more sponsors and global fame, play in the nicest arena in the league in a city James loves (Brooklyn), and he'd be playing for an owner who lives life like a king himself, which he'd share with his players.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 12:18 am
by vincecarter4pres
The Russian is reportedly worth 40 billion. :)

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 12:33 am
by jeff1624
We're getting Joe Johnson and you'll like it.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:23 am
by ironslave
Any more thoughts on this scenario though? I think as I mentioned, if all goes right, here is their lineup:

C-Lopez
PF- Bosh
SF- James
SG- Lee
PG- Wall

If the Nets do not get the first overall pick, and they draft 2nd or 3rd, and can trade Harris

C- Lopez
PF- Derrick Favors/Ed Davis (they take the best player available here)
SF- Bosh
SG- Lebron
PG-Lee

If the Nets do not get the first overall pick, and they draft 2nd or 3rd, and can NOT trade Harris. (ie, this is the worst case scenario, still one heck of a team)

C- Lopez
PF- Favors/Davis
SF- Lebron
SG- Lee
PG- Harris

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:31 am
by vincecarter4pres
Lee could never run the point...

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:32 am
by jeff1624
John Wall, Devin Harris > John wall, Courtney Lee

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:44 am
by brook_11
jeff1624 wrote:We're getting Joe Johnson and you'll like it.

Why do you think that? I mean, he´s not bad or anything and actually i think he could be a good acquisition to our team, but if we dont sign Lebron, we are going for one of the following bigs: Bosh/Amaré/Boozer.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:50 am
by jeff1624
I just think we have a more realistic chance of signing Johnson than we do Lebron. That is all.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:55 am
by Jersey Generals
vincecarter4pres wrote:Lee could never run the point...


Well, if the offense is ran through Lebron, with T-Will at the sg, I think Lee would be fine at the point, as long as his shots are dropping. In fact, I would wager a guess that he would thrive on d against the smaller guards, but generally, you're right, he can't run the point as it is right now.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 3:48 am
by vincecarter4pres
Jersey Generals wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Lee could never run the point...


Well, if the offense is ran through Lebron, with T-Will at the sg, I think Lee would be fine at the point, as long as his shots are dropping. In fact, I would wager a guess that he would thrive on d against the smaller guards, but generally, you're right, he can't run the point as it is right now.

I hear what you are saying, but he couldn't run the point no matter who you place next to him.
He would struggle just bringing the ball up and setting up the post and there is no chance in hell he can run the pick and roll. There would be too many units of subsitutions that would have to be run for him to be effective longer then the 1st 6 minutes of the game.
You can run a taller point as a shooting guard, or even a shorter one, but it is a mistake to run a shooting guard with very limited ball handling skills, passing and playmaking ability at the point.
It would put even more pressure on Lebron and Williams to make things happen.
A very bad idea.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 3:48 am
by SOUP
jeff1624 wrote:We're getting Joe Johnson and you'll like it.


:lol: Tell em Jeff!

We are only dead last in the NBA because 4 out of 5 of our starters are injured, I just hope this creates team chemistry, make us glue together, creates a brotherhood among the key pieces of this team, translating to improvement during the second half of the season.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 4:05 pm
by VCRJKidd15
if we sign joe johnson i hope he sign a big PF along with him

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2009 9:14 pm
by brook_11
Well, Avery Johnson predicted friday that we are going to land not only Lebron but also either Bosh or Joe Johnson. I hope we actually do...bosh and lebron.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:29 am
by jeff1624
VCRJKidd15 wrote:if we sign joe johnson i hope he sign a big PF along with him


Why?? We already have Josh Boone.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:02 am
by crazykidd2k6
vincecarter4pres wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Lee could never run the point...


Well, if the offense is ran through Lebron, with T-Will at the sg, I think Lee would be fine at the point, as long as his shots are dropping. In fact, I would wager a guess that he would thrive on d against the smaller guards, but generally, you're right, he can't run the point as it is right now.

I hear what you are saying, but he couldn't run the point no matter who you place next to him.
He would struggle just bringing the ball up and setting up the post and there is no chance in hell he can run the pick and roll. There would be too many units of subsitutions that would have to be run for him to be effective longer then the 1st 6 minutes of the game.
You can run a taller point as a shooting guard, or even a shorter one, but it is a mistake to run a shooting guard with very limited ball handling skills, passing and playmaking ability at the point.
It would put even more pressure on Lebron and Williams to make things happen.
A very bad idea.


I don't know I think Lee can work at the Point. It works fine in the Lakers where Lamar or Kobe brings up the ball and makes the play. He will have the same role as Fisher which is to be a threat outside, play great defense and run in fast breaks.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:18 pm
by Rockice_8
Wow that sounds amazing if that would happen but many things still need to fall our way particularly Brooklyn (I hate playing this waiting game it makes me nervous). The top pick thing looks good right now for us though. The sign and trade thing sounds great but it sounds way to good to be true. How about this team

Harris
T.Will
Turner
LBJ
Lopez

put Lebron at the PF and we'll run teams to death. Turner will spread the floor for LBJ and Harris to penetrate and kick with Lopez trailing them on the pick and roll for the dump off dunk or putback rebound. LBJ is strong enough to guard PF's in this league. T.Will plays tough D rebounds and does the dirty work.

that leaves us with some cap room to sign a backup big man like David Lee which would be sweet giving us a bench of

Dooling
C. Lee
CDR
D. Lee
(C) Dallas 1st. (we'll go big with this pick)

Legit contenders right there!!!

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:17 am
by VCRJKidd15
jeff1624 wrote:
VCRJKidd15 wrote:if we sign joe johnson i hope he sign a big PF along with him


Why?? We already have Josh Boone.
good point im a f*cking idiot

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:00 pm
by jeff1624
VCRJKidd15 wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:
VCRJKidd15 wrote:if we sign joe johnson i hope he sign a big PF along with him


Why?? We already have Josh Boone.
good point im a f*cking idiot


Boone will have a few all star appearances when all is said and done.

In all seriousness I want boone to play more alongside Lopez. He surprisingly compliments him rather nicely. I mean, since Boone doesn't play anywhere except around the basket, he could help Lopez with the boards(a weakness in Lopez' game IMO) AND when an opposing player drives to the basket so that Lopez doesn't pick up any soft fouls.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:13 pm
by ironslave
Rockice_8 wrote:Wow that sounds amazing if that would happen but many things still need to fall our way particularly Brooklyn (I hate playing this waiting game it makes me nervous). The top pick thing looks good right now for us though. The sign and trade thing sounds great but it sounds way to good to be true. How about this team

Harris
T.Will
Turner
LBJ
Lopez

put Lebron at the PF and we'll run teams to death. Turner will spread the floor for LBJ and Harris to penetrate and kick with Lopez trailing them on the pick and roll for the dump off dunk or putback rebound. LBJ is strong enough to guard PF's in this league. T.Will plays tough D rebounds and does the dirty work.

that leaves us with some cap room to sign a backup big man like David Lee which would be sweet giving us a bench of

Dooling
C. Lee
CDR
D. Lee
(C) Dallas 1st. (we'll go big with this pick)

Legit contenders right there!!!



I think it is all within the realm of possibility! Like I said, first, if they get the Brooklyn deal sorted out, that would be absolute MONEY for the franchise. Second, if they get the top pick, or even a very high (2-3) pick in the draft, which they are on pace to do, they'd be set.

If Lebron truly wants to win, his best chance is the Nets. Why would he want to stay in Cleveland with mediocre players like Mo Williams and West, instead of being able to play with a great big man in Lopez, and at least, an already star PG like Harris, plus a very high pick in a very talented draft. If they pick first and are able to get John Wall, that is just scary. Even this would give then a lineup of:

Wall
Harris
Lebron
Yi
Lopez

The sign and trade thing does sound too good to be true, but it could essentially go down like this: Lebron tells the Cavs that he is going to the Nets, period. They can either lose him for absolutely nothing, or they could lose him in a sign and trade, Bird rights for an all star point guard on a very reasonable salary, seems like a no brainer. With the Nets then owning Lebron's Bird rights, Prokhorov would not care one bit about paying a luxury tax fees, and he could go and sign Bosh to a max deal as well.

It does sound too good to be true, but with a smart GM who sees the big picture, a bit of luck in the lottery, and Prokhorov coming on board, it could easily happen. Not only could it happen, but with them all being young players, it could happen for a decade in length.

Wall
C Lee
Lebron
Bosh
Lopez

Heck, with that line up they could hold a contest at every home game and pick a random fan from the stands and have them play SG, and they'd still dominate.

Re: Why the Nets are the favorite to get Lebron

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:40 pm
by OMagic1989
Magic fan in peace..


D. West may be out for the whole year or longer... He needs to get his meds straight first and foremost. Yes Cleveland right now would have worse players but they could easily make some trades to fit pieces around Lebron considering how many quailty guys will be there next year.

My worst nightmare is D. Wade and Lebron together on an Eastern conf team. Barf...