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Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:16 am
by Revolutionistt
What would we have to give to get this guy on our team. He would be great in my opinion and im not sure how long is contract is for but i think if hes here next summer he will be an attractive piece to a big name free agent. His style of play is just what this softee team needs. hes the kind of guy wholl tell frank to shut the f**k up and then drop 30. he just puts fear in others players eyes which is great.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:06 am
by NetsForce
No thanks. He's basically a significantly worse version of Vince on a better contract.
His contract is:
2009-2010: $7,650,000 (31 years old)
2010-2011: $8,453,250 (32 years old)
2011-2012: $9,256,500 (33 years old)
2012-2013: $10,059,750 (34 years old)
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:17 am
by deviljets7
I want absolutely zero part of that contract and attitude.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:18 am
by vincecarter4pres
deviljets7 wrote:I want absolutely zero part of that contract and attitude.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:49 pm
by Rockice_8
I didn't even read your reasons, NO CHANCE. Keep this nut job and his terrible contract away for this team.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:50 pm
by Revolutionistt
wow, just wow. grow some hair on your nuts fellas. this guy has the same attitude and intensity as kenyon martin, just not as big or athletic BUT better offensively on his own. hes not afraid to be physical and work hard on the court. every single player on the nets roster except for MAYBE sean williams would get shoved around by any other player in the NBA at their position. even though the nets are 0-7 the main reason nobody in the NBA fears this team is because its a soft team. and so what about his contract, the nets have one of the most if not the most amount of money to spend.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:24 pm
by Preludepunk27
I'll make a note that until this trade request, most of his teammates have defended him and talk about how much of a team player he is. I remember specifically in the first season Reggie Miller was broadcasting for TNT, he almost got in an argument on air when one of the other guys took a jab at Stephen Jackson. Reggie went on this rant saying that he was one of the best teammates he's ever had in his career. As soon as you become part of the team, the guy will basically take a bullet for you. I think he's psychotic, but a good psychotic and would be totally happy with him on the Nets if we got him for a fair deal that wouldn't destroy our total long term plans. He can be a chucker at times, but he leaves it all on the floor on both ends of the court and I love him for that. I'll never say a bad thing about Captain Jack. I think he's just a little frustrated for the fact he asked for a trade months ago. I don't blame his teammates for being kind of bitter playing with a guy burnt out with his situation, but I don't blame Jackson for complaining now either.
Now, I mentioned I would be happy with him on the Nets, but I'd rather stick to our current long term plans because we a few solid young 2s and 3s. If that wasn't the case, I'd push harder for him; however, if GSW just wanted something like an expiring, Najera, their pick returned, I'd entertain it. I don't know, I'm bad at guaging value in trades though. I wouldn't give up a lot for him, but I'd be happy if the Nets brought him in. I won't lose sleep if we don't though.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:25 pm
by deviljets7
if he's frustrated playing in Golden State, why would anyone expect him to be feel differently in New Jersey?
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:54 pm
by Jersey Generals
No. He's not even close to worth eating into cap room.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:10 am
by Revolutionistt
deviljets7 wrote:if he's frustrated playing in Golden State, why would anyone expect him to be feel differently in New Jersey?
the amount of money nba players make off of endorsements they barely touch the money they make from their contracts. the biggest names in next years free agency class want to win championships. stephen jackson is one of those type of guys people like james, wade, bosh want on their team. nobody is going to sign with new jersey because of yi, boone, simmons, and najera. its a long shot the nets get any of those big name players. but having a guy like jackson makes this team more appealing. the nets have a nice core of young and talented players in harris, lopez, lee, twill and most likely this years pick. add a guy like stephen jackson who is a seasoned vet known for being a hard nosed and dedicated player. thats a good looking team and a good situation for jackson to want to be in.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:27 am
by vincecarter4pres
No, having Lopez, Harris, a top pick and the possibility of two max FA's being able to join forces here, is what is going to attract FA's to NJ/Brooklyn, not Stephen F'ing Jackson.
He's a nice player, he has heart, he plays good D, but he is overrated, has a bad attitude and is too expensive for his age.
He wants to personally go to a true contender anyway, and that we are not and won't be without a major FA signing or trade. If we strike out in FA the last thing you want is an albatross contract of an aging vet that will complain and create a bad environment for the young in's.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:13 pm
by Revolutionistt
vincecarter4pres wrote:No, having Lopez, Harris, a top pick and the possibility of two max FA's being able to join forces here, is what is going to attract FA's to NJ/Brooklyn, not Stephen F'ing Jackson.
He's a nice player, he has heart, he plays good D, but he is overrated, has a bad attitude and is too expensive for his age.
He wants to personally go to a true contender anyway, and that we are not and won't be without a major FA signing or trade. If we strike out in FA the last thing you want is an albatross contract of an aging vet that will complain and create a bad environment for the young in's.
youre not understanding that the free agents next year dont care about the max contracts, they want to win. none of those guys are gonna talk to each other and say, hey you want to check out the nets? with the roster in place now, hell no!
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:54 pm
by NetsForce
They do care about max contracts they just like claim they want to win.
Imagine how it would come off if they spoke how they really felt.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:01 pm
by vincecarter4pres
Revolutionistt wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:No, having Lopez, Harris, a top pick and the possibility of two max FA's being able to join forces here, is what is going to attract FA's to NJ/Brooklyn, not Stephen F'ing Jackson.
He's a nice player, he has heart, he plays good D, but he is overrated, has a bad attitude and is too expensive for his age.
He wants to personally go to a true contender anyway, and that we are not and won't be without a major FA signing or trade. If we strike out in FA the last thing you want is an albatross contract of an aging vet that will complain and create a bad environment for the young in's.
youre not understanding that the free agents next year dont care about the max contracts, they want to win. none of those guys are gonna talk to each other and say, hey you want to check out the nets? with the roster in place now, hell no!
You're not understanding, they do care about max money and they do talk to each other.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:10 pm
by deviljets7
Revolutionistt wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:No, having Lopez, Harris, a top pick and the possibility of two max FA's being able to join forces here, is what is going to attract FA's to NJ/Brooklyn, not Stephen F'ing Jackson.
He's a nice player, he has heart, he plays good D, but he is overrated, has a bad attitude and is too expensive for his age.
He wants to personally go to a true contender anyway, and that we are not and won't be without a major FA signing or trade. If we strike out in FA the last thing you want is an albatross contract of an aging vet that will complain and create a bad environment for the young in's.
youre not understanding that the free agents next year dont care about the max contracts, they want to win. none of those guys are gonna talk to each other and say, hey you want to check out the nets? with the roster in place now, hell no!
And Steven Jackson isn't going to change that perception around the league because the Nets will still suck with him.
Letting LeBron, Wade or Bosh pick their sidekick(s) with the $10 or so million remaining cap space is going to be a lot more appealing than a 32-year-old malcontent like Jackson.
Re: Stephen Jackson
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:28 am
by SOUP
This has to be the most (Please Use More Appropriate Word) thread ever. Why the hell would we need Stephen Jackson's massive contract, and cancer-like attitude? Ok, he can score, and probably earn us a couple of extra wins.... so? How the hell will that help us in the future? We're in a rebuilding mode, and we are doing very well so far. He would take away shots from our young players and pollute the locker rooms.