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Post#21 » by RingItUp! » Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:49 pm

kelso wrote:I don't care what he has done in the past- its irrelevant. Hurt or not (and I doubt he's hurt) he has been completely garbage this year. He's not worth the 3mil hes getting and if he wont waive his no trade, then sit him in the press box and let Robbie Earl and Ben Ondrus play. At least those guys hustle and give everything they have every shift. They don't play like we owe them something or like they're doing us a favor if they show up tonight.

I couldn't care less about our win/loss record at this point. Just carve off all the rot and decay and attitude and leave guys that can learn, take direction and want to play as a team. Spend money on young talent that will grow and for the love of God don't give ANYONE a no-movement clause again. We have more of those then all the NHL combined.


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Post#22 » by Mr Swagtastic » Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:32 pm

Crowned wrote:What skillset are we talking about? The skillset of last year and the year before? He hasn't showed anything this season. He was effective on the PP, had a chip on his shoulder, was a fantastic agitator, went around and hit players till the glass cracked and played his heart out. He hasn't done any of that this season on a consistant basis, and it's what he's getting paid for.


Yes smatass I ment last year when he was effective and even back to his Hab and Tampa Bay days. He's just lost the will to play anymore and looks horrid at times. When teams like Flordia smash you 8-0 it's time to do something like stop overpaying for avarage defense men ala Hal Gill, Kubina and McCabe.
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Post#23 » by emfive » Thu Feb 7, 2008 2:24 am

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Yes smatass I ment last year when he was effective and even back to his Hab and Tampa Bay days. He's just lost the will to play anymore and looks horrid at times. When teams like Flordia smash you 8-0 it's time to do something like stop overpaying for avarage defense men ala Hal Gill, Kubina and McCabe.


No point getting upset about Tucker. He is not worth protecting. The guy has lost it and carries himself with a sense of entitlement.

BTW the worst Leaf on defence has been Kaberle. He led the catastrophe with a minus 3 last game. Has he ever recorded a blocked shot? In the open ice he gives a little bump and lets his man skate by him. He is the opposite of tenacious when checking against the boards. I hope the scouts coming to see him are blind.
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Post#24 » by ansoncarter » Thu Feb 7, 2008 2:42 am

I think White is our worst defensive defenceman by a mile

kaberle's defence is better than kubina or mccabe's imo. I don't think he makes near as many glaring mistakes as they do. They give up at least one great scoring chance every period just by losing sense of the play
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Post#25 » by xAIRNESSx » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:59 pm

Was JFJ the genius that gave Tucker a no-trade clause?
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Post#26 » by emfive » Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:38 pm

ansoncarter wrote:I think White is our worst defensive defenceman by a mile

kaberle's defence is better than kubina or mccabe's imo. I don't think he makes near as many glaring mistakes as they do. They give up at least one great scoring chance every period just by losing sense of the play


Kaberle never stays on his man and will has never given his body up to block a shot or even a pass. His idea of a check is a quick little hit and then he lets the skater by. There is not a softer more disinterested defenceman in the league. I can not fathom why any NHL scout would suggest him to his GM!

I agree that White is weak also. The guy tries but does not have the physical attribute required to play the game. For Kaberle it is a matter of will. I find White easier to forgive.
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Post#27 » by Contract Season » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:30 pm

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Kaberle never stays on his man and will has never given his body up to block a shot or even a pass. His idea of a check is a quick little hit and then he lets the skater by. There is not a softer more disinterested defenceman in the league. I can not fathom why any NHL scout would suggest him to his GM!

I agree that White is weak also. The guy tries but does not have the physical attribute required to play the game. For Kaberle it is a matter of will. I find White easier to forgive.


I've had this discussion many times with friends.
Kaberle would be great if you never had to put him out on the PK or late in games.
He's among the best puck moving and overall offensive defenceman in the league, and among the very worst defensively.
Positionally he's fine. He's got smarts and is in the right place usually unlike McCabe/Kubina.
But, at least those guys can do the job when they are in the right place.
Kaberle is so soft and scrawny that being in the right place doesn't help him much imo, because he couldn't move a 5-year-old from in front of the net.

Kaberle, to me, is what he is. A great pp guy and a solid #2 d-man who needs to be paired with a defensive specialist to be most effective and a guy who should never be on the ice at the end of games with the Leafs up.
I would keep him and try to upgrade around him so you don't put him in situations where he looks terrible.
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Post#28 » by Tor-Rap-Tor » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:33 am

JFJ was on TSN, during the Leaf's and Buffalo game between periods and suggested there were a few teams interested in Tucker, he didn't go into much detail, on which teams, or what they were offering but that there was interest...

So if he did waive his NTC, he may bring a good return but he probably, won't do it, so it's all pie in the sky unless he does...
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Post#29 » by gniewek » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:32 pm

After the 2 goal and 1 assist performance vs Boston last night his value will rise...or maybe we want to keep him
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Post#30 » by emfive » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:37 am

He is not a leader. He is a coach killer. We can only hope that GM's are fooled.
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Post#31 » by gniewek » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:13 pm

A coach killer?
What is a coach killer?
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Post#32 » by emfive » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:28 pm

gniewek wrote:A coach killer?
What is a coach killer?


Ask Burke. He will explain it to you.

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