Game Thread: Montreal Canadiens vs. Toronto Maple Leafs

[WHAT_DA]

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The MTL goal is off-topic and it's irrelevant. Next time try watching a game before you solely believe that the opposing teams lead evaporated solely because of goaltending and feel that both goalies deserve ALL the blame. Raycroft caught a bad break in the second and was yanked, that period was dominated by Montreal. They needed a change, and I don't know what Paul Maurice said to his boys in the 2nd intermission, but it was the turning the point. Montreal took some gutsy penalties, and it costs them the season. By your theory, I guess Aubin deservers much praise and even the Vezina for the Leafs performance in the 3rd. Whether you want to accept it or not, Raycroft was a contributor to these 91 points and is one of the reasons why this team could be heading into the playoffs

Awesome win, and what a way to cap off a rough season. Great atmosphere and glad that there was a big time buzz in the ACC. As a fan, they

[Geddy]

Can't believe the leafs pulled that one off. It was looking really bleak there for a while.

However, I don't think the Devils will be going too hard tomorrow. Islanders will be pumped.


As for Raycroft - some of the bashing he's got this season has been unwarranted, but i have to say the second period comeback by montreal had a lot to do with raycroft's piss poor play. That second goal should never have been a goal to start with.


btw has anyone see GQ around

[The-Insider]

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Assuming the Islanders can't beat Jerseys farm team tomorrow, aren't you getting just a wee bit ahead of yourself? Why would Jersey play any of their stars?

Assuming? I can't stress enough about tomorrow's game.

As for Jersey, they're going with the back-up. They're under a new head coach, their closing the season at home, and their up for a great prep. for the playoffs. Lou has something to prove, but he

[Death Knight]

8 straight minutes of penalties for the Habs, down 2 men twice, I knew once the habs were up they would be paraded to the box.

I am looking at the boxscore and the penalties...why does Begin's high stick penalty at the end of the 2nd period get recorded twice?

[Marmoset]

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I am looking at the boxscore and the penalties...why does Begin's high stick penalty at the end of the 2nd period get recorded twice?

That had me too for a minute - it's because it's was 4 minutes for high-sticking, 2+2 - they consider it two minor penalties rather than one 4-minute penalty.

[The-Insider]

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Wow, you need to learn how to read. If the montreal goal is irrelevant why did you bring it up? Stop dancing in circles. All I did was prove your "irony" wrong. And Aubin does deserve praise for his performance in the third. If that was raycroft in net, it would be doubtful that he would get even one save.

Claiming that I don't know how to read is even more ironic. The only thing you've proved is an opposition of ignorance and a great deal of character. Try staying on-topic here. It was intended for Toronto's tying goal, and their go-ahead goal. Not the Montreal goal. That's besides the point. Stating that blaming Raycroft is warrant for Montreal

[Marmoset]

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The MTL goal is off-topic and it's irrelevant. Next time try watching a game before you solely believe that the opposing teams lead evaporated solely because of goaltending and feel that both goalies deserve ALL the blame. Raycroft caught a bad break in the second and was yanked, that period was dominated by Montreal. They needed a change, and I don't know what Paul Maurice said to his boys in the 2nd intermission, but it was the turning the point. Montreal took some gutsy penalties, and it costs them the season. By your theory, I guess Aubin deservers much praise and even the Vezina for the Leafs performance in the 3rd. Whether you want to accept it or not, Raycroft was a contributor to these 91 points and is one of the reasons why this team could be heading into the playoffs

I still totally disagree with you about tonight. I thought Raycroft was putrid in the second and deserved to be pulled. But I agree with you overall, in that he took too much heat during the season. If you're just frustrated over that, I understand! But tonight was not his finest moment, and the criticism is warranted in the opinion of the vast majority.

As for the game as a whole - the Leafs clearly wanted it more. Montreal had a few guys who played like they wanted it, but for the Leafs most of the team did. Don Cherry was 100% right on about Kovalev - I barely noticed he was even there. I really like Michael Ryder though - always have. Maybe when he's 34 the Leafs can sign him to a 5-year, $30-million deal with a no-trade clause. (OK, that doesn't really belong here - but I couldn't resist! )

[Brownman06]

Awesome win. Thank god I don't have any kind of heart problems. This game could've given someone a heart attack.

GO LEAFS GO!

[The-Insider]

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I still totally disagree with you about tonight. I thought Raycroft was putrid in the second and deserved to be pulled. But I agree with you overall, in that he took too much heat during the season. If you're just frustrated over that, I understand! But tonight was not his finest moment, and the criticism is warranted in the opinion of the vast majority.

And nobody is trying to refute that. He caught a bad break, and he was yanked. But blaming him for Montreal's dominance in the second as well, is blowing it out of proportion.

A great thanks to Luuuigi Mario, for the game thread tonight. It's paid dividends my friend!

[WHAT_DA]

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Claiming that I don't know how to read is even more ironic. The only thing you've proved is an opposition of ignorance and a great deal of character. Try staying on-topic here. It was intended for Toronto's tying goal, and their go-ahead goal. Not the Montreal goal. That's besides the point. Stating that blaming Raycroft is warrant for Montreal

[Death Knight]

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That had me too for a minute - it's because it's was 4 minutes for high-sticking, 2+2 - they consider it two minor penalties rather than one 4-minute penalty.

thanks

[Crowned]

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Wow, you need to learn how to read. If the montreal goal is irrelevant why did you bring it up? Stop dancing in circles. All I did was prove your "irony" wrong. And Aubin does deserve praise for his performance in the third. If that was raycroft in net, it would be doubtful that he would get even one save.

Praise for what? He faced 6 shots in 32 minutes of play. I don't even think Montreal had a legit scoring opportunity during that time.

[WHAT_DA]

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And nobody is trying to refute that. He caught a bad break, and he was yanked. But blaming him for Montreal's dominance in the second as well, is blowing it out of proportion.

A great thanks to Luuuigi Mario, for the game thread tonight. It's paid dividends my friend!

That I get! If that's you're sticking point on the matter(which you havent made clear to this point) then you're entitled to your opinion. I played hockey for 10 years and I know how deflating it can be when my goaltender lets in a bad goal. I feel (and it seems quite obvious by looking at the chain of events that took place after the goal) that this is what happened here.

[Crowned]

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I am looking at the boxscore and the penalties...why does Begin's high stick penalty at the end of the 2nd period get recorded twice?

Begin got the 2 for high sticking, and an additional 2 for drawing blood (I'd assume). The penalty is recorded as a double minor. If a team were to score during the first 2 minutes, the penalty would then be knocked down to another 2 minutes.

For example...

Wayne Gretzky scores 1:45 into a 4 minute penalty. After the goal, the penalty would then be knocked down to 2 minutes.

[The-Insider]

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I seriously do not get a word you just said. I've proved a great deal of character? Montreal's collision? All I understood was you saying that I am going off topic and changing the subject when in reality I've just been continuing on the path you started. I can't respond adequately to your post if I don't know what you're trying to say.

A great way to back out of an argument. Everybody seems to be getting along just about fine. Are you done yet?

[WHAT_DA]

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Praise for what? He faced 6 shots in 32 minutes of play. I don't even think Montreal had a legit scoring opportunity during that time.

I'd argue that the second goal on AR wasnt all that legit of an opportunity either. Praise, i agree, is a strong word though. I was trying to go with the flow of what insider said. But I do believe that he should be commended for not totally imploding in the third and letting in one of the weak shots the habs threw at him.

I'm not a huge fan of aubin either though. He's very up and down. We'll see what happens if we make the playoffs. Maybe Raycroft can redeem himself.

[WHAT_DA]

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A great way to back out of an argument. Everybody seems to be getting along just about fine. Are you done yet?

read my above post. All you have to do is make it clear what your opinion is and you'll get a response.

[Crowned]

I like Aubin as a backup, nothing more. He's more than capable in that role. I'd like to bring him back in the same role next season, but I think he'll be wearing another jersey next year.

[WHAT_DA]

I like Aubin as a backup, nothing more. He's more than capable in that role. I'd like to bring him back in the same role next season, but I think he'll be wearing another jersey next year.

I would rather he didn't come back. Him and Maurice don't seem to get along. He also doesn't seem like a "locker-room guy" and for an older goaltender that's important.

[The-Insider]

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That I get! If that's you're sticking point on the matter(which you havent made clear to this point) then you're entitled to your opinion. I played hockey for 10 years and I know how deflating it can be when my goaltender lets in a bad goal. I feel (and it seems quite obvious by looking at the chain of events that took place after the goal) that this is what happened here.

Are you mentality disabled?

It seems you have a hard time understanding