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Post#301 » by Tor-Rap-Tor » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:58 pm

I don't think Svatos is the answer...

I feel pretty good about our defence and goal tending situation. Carlo is a second unit defenceman and his worth is more to the team than swapping him for Svatos...
Injuries can't be predicted on past seasons and I have a feeling that Carlo will play most of the season, with little games lost this year due to problems like he's had in the past...
The only trades I would make at this time would be minor and perhaps only using excess defencemen like Kronwall, Harrison or Wozniewski, even dealing them for cap space (re: draft picks) that could get a player like Peca or Yashin
Although we lack Right Wingers most forward players can play multiple positions and even thrive in doing so...
Unless we can obtain a player that is a proven high scoring Winger like Hejduk, I think we have the personnel to get us into the play-offs, how far we go is another matter...
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Re: DONE DEAL: Hejduk a Leaf (with link) 

Post#302 » by MAS » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:23 pm

juucer wrote:LINK

Bob McPhee writes, "According to several of my sources, the Avalanche and Maple Leafs have agreed on a deal that would send Pavel Kubina and Carlo Colaiacovo to Colorado for Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos. It still has to be finalized though. But they have agreed on a deal according to my sources."


To Toronto: Hejduk + Svatos
To Colorado: Kubina + Colaiacovo


Not official, and I don't know about the source... I guess we'll find out soon.


I'd stick this in the rumour section for now, if it becomes official then we make it's own thread
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Re: DONE DEAL: Hejduk a Leaf (with link) 

Post#303 » by TR50 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:52 pm

juucer wrote:LINK

Bob McPhee writes, "According to several of my sources, the Avalanche and Maple Leafs have agreed on a deal that would send Pavel Kubina and Carlo Colaiacovo to Colorado for Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos. It still has to be finalized though. But they have agreed on a deal according to my sources."


To Toronto: Hejduk + Svatos
To Colorado: Kubina + Colaiacovo


Not official, and I don't know about the source... I guess we'll find out soon.


HOLY CRAP....i'd rather deal White than Carlo though.....
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Re: DONE DEAL: Hejduk a Leaf (with link) 

Post#304 » by MAS » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:00 pm

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HOLY CRAP....i'd rather deal White than Carlo though.....


Well so would the Leafs but you see, teams don't give away stuff for nothing. Besides i don't think this is true
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Re: DONE DEAL: Hejduk a Leaf (with link) 

Post#305 » by TR50 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:18 pm

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Well so would the Leafs but you see, teams don't give away stuff for nothing. Besides i don't think this is true


i get that...i am trying to0 figure out if their is any substance to this rumour as well
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Post#306 » by Crowned » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:45 pm

The same guy that's reporting this has has 3 different variations of the trade within the last little while. I'd put no stock into the rumour as of right now.
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Post#307 » by Tor-Rap-Tor » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:35 pm

Crowned wrote:The same guy that's reporting this has has 3 different variations of the trade within the last little while. I'd put no stock into the rumour as of right now.


Agreed...

losing both our second unit defencemen would be crazy. Kubina I can see as the center player in a trade and perhaps Harrison and Stajan as throw ins and even add a third rounder in 2008...

I think something may be in the works but not as it is being reported. Eklund is saying that Islanders are thinking of signing Markov, maybe
(Nullifying a proposed trade for McCabe?)...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=8688
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Danny Markov to the NY Islanders (e4).

Talking to sources it looks like the Isles may have found their man....I was told some time ago, that Comrie and Guerin were told that one of Markov, McCabe, Jovo, or Morris would be an Islander...If this happens I would expect Morris to go to Buffalo...looks like one will go to one, and one to the other....the only other team that I am hearing linked to Markov is Chicago....
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Post#308 » by TR50 » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:09 pm

No Yashin, he went to the Euro League, Mike Peca expresses interest in going back to Buffalo...at least heard that on the fan
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Post#309 » by bryant08 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:37 pm

Eklund has been buzzing the last few days about the Leafs/Habs/Sens all having interest in Marleau. With SJ in need of a top pairing d-man, we could put together an offer of Kubina/Steen for Marleau. Marleau would be a full time Sundin replacement, and with this trade, if we wanted to despite the glut at center, we could still get Peca with Marleau's $4M cap hit. SJ could team Steen with a young core of Bernier, Pavelski, Wishart and so on. OT: You guys should visit the Sportsnet Hockey Forums as well, I find them really useful since they have such a huge fan base.
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Post#310 » by juucer » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:16 pm

bryant08 wrote:Eklund has been buzzing the last few days about the Leafs/Habs/Sens all having interest in Marleau. With SJ in need of a top pairing d-man, we could put together an offer of Kubina/Steen for Marleau. Marleau would be a full time Sundin replacement, and with this trade, if we wanted to despite the glut at center, we could still get Peca with Marleau's $4M cap hit. SJ could team Steen with a young core of Bernier, Pavelski, Wishart and so on. OT: You guys should visit the Sportsnet Hockey Forums as well, I find them really useful since they have such a huge fan base.


I don't like the thoughts of giving up a signed top defenseman (Kubina) and a promising young forward (Steen) for Marleau, who will become a UFA after this season and could walk away leaving the Leafs with nothing, or demand a ludicrous amount of money giving the Leafs no wiggle room.
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Post#311 » by TR50 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:49 pm

^^ I second that
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Post#312 » by whysoserious » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:33 pm

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I don't like the thoughts of giving up a signed top defenseman (Kubina) and a promising young forward (Steen) for Marleau, who will become a UFA after this season and could walk away leaving the Leafs with nothing, or demand a ludicrous amount of money giving the Leafs no wiggle room.


I would do it fast with a couple of conditions. SJ must include someone young or a pick and include a list of player's that would be added to the deal should Marleau walk away. The latter part really wouldn't be necessary as you wouldn't make the move until you had him signed to an extension.
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Post#313 » by TR50 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:17 pm

Now that i think of it, i kinda doubt we get marleau, just by the shear thought that we just made a pretty big deal with em for toskala....
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Post#314 » by Tor-Rap-Tor » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:21 pm

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/240437

It's being reported that Peca is seeking about half of what he earned last year, thats 1.25 million, half of 2.5 million he earned in 2006...

I for one, would have his signature on a contract right now and then worry about the cap. We have to deal a defenceman anyway because of the over abundance we have and dealing, one of Harrison, wozniewski or Kronwall should get us there...

Surely some team will give us a say a 3rd or 4th round draft choice for one of them?...
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Post#315 » by TR50 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:59 pm

^^ i agree
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Post#316 » by Mak » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:57 am

I heard a romour. Not sure how true it is but someone close to people in the organization told me that....... Leafs suck!

Can anybody confirm? ;)
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Post#317 » by UTMCretin » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:15 am

Mak wrote:I heard a romour. Not sure how true it is but someone close to people in the organization told me that....... Leafs suck!

Can anybody confirm? ;)


Its damn near official at this point
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Post#318 » by MAS » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:35 pm

Mak wrote:I heard a romour. Not sure how true it is but someone close to people in the organization told me that....... Leafs suck!

Can anybody confirm? ;)


pffft that's not a rumour at all
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Post#319 » by MAS » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:37 pm

Tor-Rap-Tor wrote:http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/240437

It's being reported that Peca is seeking about half of what he earned last year, thats 1.25 million, half of 2.5 million he earned in 2006...

I for one, would have his signature on a contract right now and then worry about the cap. We have to deal a defenceman anyway because of the over abundance we have and dealing, one of Harrison, wozniewski or Kronwall should get us there...

Surely some team will give us a say a 3rd or 4th round draft choice for one of them?...


I'm all for bringing Peca back as you guys know. I don't know why everyone was getting upset on the fan yesterday. They'd rather have Stajan than Peca. Normally you guys know I'd take the young guy over the old guy but Stajan hasn't improved since his rookie year 4 years ago. It's getting to the point where you have to think this is as good as he's gonna get

Just something of note in regards to JFJ, he's having a tougher time than expected because his mother is sick too. I expect he's back working now, but this may be why they're looking for a mentor for him, to take some of the load off
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Post#320 » by Tor-Rap-Tor » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:06 pm

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I'm all for bringing Peca back as you guys know. I don't know why everyone was getting upset on the fan yesterday. They'd rather have Stajan than Peca. Normally you guys know I'd take the young guy over the old guy but Stajan hasn't improved since his rookie year 4 years ago. It's getting to the point where you have to think this is as good as he's gonna get

Just something of note in regards to JFJ, he's having a tougher time than expected because his mother is sick too. I expect he's back working now, but this may be why they're looking for a mentor for him, to take some of the load off


Well I would much prefer to deal a defenceman rather than Stajan...

We have 10 D, that include 4 non rotation players, that are on 1 way contracts and can't be sent down to the minors because they are guaranteed. They are again Harrison, Wozniewski, Kronwall and Belak...

Belak can be used as a forward and is the enforcer so he will more than likely stay put but carrying 10 D is not a good situation and with our cap unwieldy and almost max'd out, something has got to give and if nothing in the wind in the Kubina trade rumours, one of the young D make the most sense as trade bait...

Yes, I too would like to extend condolences to JFJ, after losing his father and now his mother not being well, he is being hit with a double whammy and hopefully MLSE can get him some help...

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