Richard Peddies an IDIOT!

trellaine201 · Post #1 » by **trellaine201** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:58 am

How do we get rid of this guy? He seems to really be the root of the evilness of this MLSE.

How do we get rid of this guy and get the Leafs back on the right track?

After hearing the Scotty Bowman story and how it seems he was going to be offered the job to run the team ala Colangelo and seems Peddie blocked the move with his power! Grrrrrrr.

What a mess the Leafs are in. Reminds of the Ballard days. *sigh*

emfive · Post #2 » by **emfive** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:02 am

There is already a thread on this!

Mak · Post #3 » by **Mak** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:29 am

trellaine201 wrote:How do we get rid of this guy? He seems to really be the root of the evilness of this MLSE.

How do we get rid of this guy and get the Leafs back on the right track?

After hearing the Scotty Bowman story and how it seems he was going to be offered the job to run the team ala Colangelo and seems Peddie blocked the move with his power! Grrrrrrr.

What a mess the Leafs are in. Reminds of the Ballard days. *sigh*

Bowen is no Colangelo. Bowen is old and has not had much experience being a GM. Last time he was a GM was 20 years ago while BC just won EOY award a year before coming to Toronto. One of the best coaches ever but I don't think he would be the ideal solution in Toronto.

and Peddie is no idiot...just ask the people he is making tons of money for.

kelso · Post #4 » by **kelso** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:32 pm

Mak wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Bowen is no Colangelo. Bowen is old and has not had much experience being a GM. Last time he was a GM was 20 years ago while BC just won EOY award a year before coming to Toronto. One of the best coaches ever but I don't think he would be the ideal solution in Toronto.

and Peddie is no idiot...just ask the people he is making tons of money for.

How do you not make money running MLSE? The building is full at a premium, merchandising is and always will be strong, their properties are in demand....all they have to do is count money.

Seriously, I'm sure he's a bright guy, but any executive with a pulse could make money for that company. Lets look at the other criteria which could be used to gauge his success or lack there of:

Hiring:
Hes brutal. So brutal, he had to give up control of the basketball side, which immediately resulted in success for the Raptors.

Timing and decision making:
See above, and every move he's made on the Leafs. Horrible. He's had 2 chances to fix the Leafs and he's failed both times. Dryden didn't fix it and Ferguson has only made it way worse.

Success of the hockey team:
Do I really need to get into this? 28th out of 30 teams as I write this, AND they have nothing in the farm system, long term bloated contracts and no sign of any hope at all on the horizon.

Intangibles:
How can you give him anything but a scathing review here? Weeks ago he throws his man Ferguson under the bus, he rebukes Scotty Bowman (which was probably only because Tannebaum endorsed him- and I wouldn't be surprised if this interview Bowman did was part of a plot to undermine Peddie....one can only hope). The media and the fans cant' stand him and he basically represents everything we hate about MLSE.

Richard Peddie, if anything, demonstrates that the other 12 (or 11- I'll exclude Tannebaum) people at the Board room table dont' give a flying fadoo what we thing about what they're doing. This is all about return on investment and as long as we keep them in the black, they're going to keep doing what they are doing.

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Banger_bro · Post #5 » by **Banger_bro** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:37 am

That is the problem with having the team owned by the Ontario Teacher Pension Fund - all they care about is the bottom line

emfive · Post #6 » by **emfive** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:33 pm

Banger_bro wrote:That is the problem with having the team owned by the Ontario Teacher Pension Fund - all they care about is the bottom line

The problem is Peddie. The bottom line will be better if Leafs do well.

emfive · Post #7 » by **emfive** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:36 pm

So now it appears that JFJ went to the board 2 years ago to suggest and entire revamping and was turned down by the board. Guess who the board listens to. I hope Peddie shows and tells the board to hire Fletcher and the board tells him to take a hike.

Fletcher is the wrong guy to bring in. They are better off leaving JFJ there and letting him make the deals. What a joke.

Post #8 » by **MAS** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:08 am

There's more to the Bowman story from what I've been told by someone in the Nashville Predators press box.

He basically told me that the buzz around the box was that Peddie told Bowman the reason he wasn't hired was because "he's been out of the game too long". Which begs the question, if Bowman has been out of the game too long (considering that he's still doing a lot of the scouting for the Wings and helping his son in Chicago), then what does that make Fletcher who's been gone for a year, and Neil Smith who has had a month of work in the past 5 or so years?

whysoserious · Post #9 » by **whysoserious** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:35 pm

MAS wrote:There's more to the Bowman story from what I've been told by someone in the Nashville Predators press box.

He basically told me that the buzz around the box was that Peddie told Bowman the reason he wasn't hired was because "he's been out of the game too long". Which begs the question, if Bowman has been out of the game too long (considering that he's still doing a lot of the scouting for the Wings and helping his son in Chicago), then what does that make Fletcher who's been gone for a year, and Neil Smith who has had a month of work in the past 5 or so years?

Peddie only wants Fletcher cause he's an interim solution and with Smith he can still hold on to control. With Bowman, he's basically be pushed aside and Peddie is just trying to hold on to his power.

Tor-Rap-Tor · Post #10 » by **Tor-Rap-Tor** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:01 pm

MAS wrote:There's more to the Bowman story from what I've been told by someone in the Nashville Predators press box.

He basically told me that the buzz around the box was that Peddie told Bowman the reason he wasn't hired was because "he's been out of the game too long". Which begs the question, if Bowman has been out of the game too long (considering that he's still doing a lot of the scouting for the Wings and helping his son in Chicago), then what does that make Fletcher who's been gone for a year, and Neil Smith who has had a month of work in the past 5 or so years?

It was only a year ago that Fletcher was in charge of the Coyotes and his more current involvement with the NHL workings, make him a good candidate to be hired to take over...

I would however like to see Fletcher take over as JFJ,s mentor and guide him with an eye to becoming the Wayne Embry of the Hockey operation and replace JFJ and or Maurice as he deems necessary or not...

He should be hired as the person to see what ails the Leafs not just to trade this player or that as an interim axeman...

He should report to the board his findings and hopefully it means getting Peddie out of the Hockey decision making process...

whysoserious · Post #11 » by **whysoserious** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:25 pm

Tor-Rap-Tor wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It was only a year ago that Fletcher was in charge of the Coyotes and his more current involvement with the NHL workings, make him a good candidate to be hired to take over...

I would however like to see Fletcher take over as JFJ,s mentor and guide him with an eye to becoming the Wayne Embry of the Hockey operation and replace JFJ and or Maurice as he deems necessary or not...

He should be hired as the person to see what ails the Leafs not just to trade this player or that as an interim axeman...

He should report to the board his findings and hopefully it means getting Peddie out of the Hockey decision making process...

I can't understand that JFJ should stick around. As much as it may seem like he's been hamstrung in certain ways, once given directive by the board, he's made some gross miscalculations.

If Fletcher or whoever comes in, needs to act. There really isn't much time of assessment. That's the problem with the Leafs, no decisive action. They overthink every little thing.

They need to get rid of Peddie, JFJ and Maurice and rebuild the entire operation top down. Even someone like Bob Nicholson as President would be good.

Tor-Rap-Tor · Post #12 » by **Tor-Rap-Tor** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:10 pm

whysoserious wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I can't understand that JFJ should stick around. As much as it may seem like he's been hamstrung in certain ways, once given directive by the board, he's made some gross miscalculations.

If Fletcher or whoever comes in, needs to act. There really isn't much time of assessment. That's the problem with the Leafs, no decisive action. They overthink every little thing.

They need to get rid of Peddie, JFJ and Maurice and rebuild the entire operation top down. Even someone like Bob Nicholson as President would be good.

Well although I agree with some of what your saying, getting rid of Peddie and Maurice, should happen but JFJ has already had contact with most of the managers in the league and has some offers on the table for players, if Fletcher could confer, on what JFJ has already done the spade work on, as a tandem and depending on the terms of his employment, that Fletcher can hammer out (hopefully no interference and complete control of the club), together they could get some good deals done.

JFJ is under contract for the rest of the year and I am sure he would work in conjunction with Fletcher as every deal he has to okay with Peddie anyway, so really what difference is there in discussing moves with Fletcher rather than Peddie, at least Fletcher can guide him in a hockey related way. JFJ if I remember, also wanted to get rid of Maurice but was told that he would have to go through Peddie, at least Fletcher could concur or not and maybe even offer a name to take over as coach...

After this season is over and the draft completed then Fletcher can either retain JFJ (not likely) but could help in the selection of a new GM with complete control over the team such as Colangelo has with the Raptors, at least we will have a hockey mind, to make some decisions...

emfive · Post #13 » by **emfive** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:45 am

MAS wrote:There's more to the Bowman story from what I've been told by someone in the Nashville Predators press box.

He basically told me that the buzz around the box was that Peddie told Bowman the reason he wasn't hired was because "he's been out of the game too long". Which begs the question, if Bowman has been out of the game too long (considering that he's still doing a lot of the scouting for the Wings and helping his son in Chicago), then what does that make Fletcher who's been gone for a year, and Neil Smith who has had a month of work in the past 5 or so years?

I find it trite to respond to a post with emoticons only,

But

:roll:

and

emfive · Post #14 » by **emfive** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:55 am

I am not sure now that we can blame JFJ and Maurice for what all that has transpired.

If one is denied the rebuilding process and probably told to make sure to sign player A and B not matter what (McCabe/Tucker) and then given parameter not chosen by that GM for free agent signings, I would find it difficult to blame that GM completely. I cannot see how moving those two out at this stage even if they sign an person to oversee operation. How could they bring anyone in to handle all the hockey operations in a period of few weeks.

Not sure how it might impact longterm on his career but I would not blame JFJ if he told them to go fly a whatever, as soon as Fletcher is brought in.

Post #15 » by **bryant08** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:27 pm

www.firerichardpeddie.ca

-MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

DwntnCoyote · Post #16 » by **DwntnCoyote** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:42 pm

Richard Peddie will never get fired unless the Teacher's Fund sell MLSE.....

He represents the TPF (that's 58% of the owners) on the Board and he is the CEO of MLSE.

Peddie hired Fletcher because it allows Peddie to get the breathing room from the mediam and he gets to keep himself in the power position.

With Bowman, Muckler and some others Peddie talked to over the summer, Peddie would not relinquish control over the Hockey Operations.

SO... sorry to tell all those Peddie haters...and I am the biggest one out there.....He is not going anywhere unless the TPF tells him to stop being part of the Hockey Operations.....

emfive · Post #17 » by **emfive** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:36 am

JFJ could have stuck it to Peddie but he did not. He is a better man than I Gunga Din!

pape-a-bonner · Post #18 » by **pape-a-bonner** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:36 pm

Watch Peddie's lips move as Fletcher is talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M0KRaQDIJQ

emfive · Post #19 » by **emfive** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:01 pm

pape-a-bonner wrote:Watch Peddie's lips move as Fletcher is talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M0KRaQDIJQ

Peddie is really good. He drank water at he beginning of it. What a talent. :roll:

It would be hilarious if the situation did not mirror reality. Actually, for those that are not long suffering Leaf fans it is probably hilarious because of the situation.

:cry:

emfive · Post #20 » by **emfive** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:40 pm

I was sooooo pissed when Gainey interviewed here and did not take/get the job. I blamed Quinn at the time. It is clear now who the H the problem was.

As Parcells once said ... If you are doing the cooking you should be able to buy the groceries!

I still wonder what sort of BS arrangement Peddie is going to come up with for the new GM. God help his brave little soul ... whoever it is!