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Ferguson Done 

Post#1 » by Griff83 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:24 pm

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Post#2 » by ansoncarter » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:54 pm

finally

now we just need all those guys with no-trade clauses to waive them
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Post#3 » by UNC Tar Heel Fan » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:06 pm

So with Cliff Fletcher and Damon Stoudamire possibly coming back what year is this?

1997?
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Post#4 » by zong » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:18 pm

yes! finally, dayum!
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Post#5 » by Viperstrike » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:28 pm

Finally!!!! :clap: :clap:
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Post#6 » by whysoserious » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:51 pm

It's about time. Then again, when do the Leafs act decisively.

The sad thing about reading that article is that Peddie keeps saying that Fletcher has full autonomy to make hockey related decisions, yet Peddie is retaining Gord Kirke to help him find the new GM along with Fletcher.

Sorry, but this is where all the problems continue to reside. Get Peddie the F*** away from the hockey team.
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Post#7 » by yeehamasai » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:05 pm

before the moderators lock this up, please let the raptors fans reply to this who know how long a dread it has been with jfj as the leafs gm. For all the raptors fans who witnessned what the raptors and leafs were like during the fergueson/bobcack era THIS IS FOR YOU. BOTH GMS ARE GONE FINALLY !!! as bc has transformed the raptors so will the next leafs gm. HOLD YOUR HEADS UP HIGH TORONTO for this is an aspicious occasion. wow did 2008 ever start right or what
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Post#8 » by inrapscity » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:07 pm

congradulations to leafs fans. hopefully, MLSE will bring in the right guy and they'll get it right. in the meantime, go habs, go sens.
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Post#9 » by whysoserious » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:07 pm

It was nice to hear in the PC just now that they are looking for a new President and GM, but the fact that Peddie is heading up that search still scares me.

From what I remember it was Tanenbaum that got the ball rolling on the Colangelo hire and I have zero faith in Peddie at all.
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Post#10 » by Turnpikebandit » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:10 pm

Ferguson was bad but he certainly deserved a lot better.

And as per usual, the rat escapes unscathed yet again. I'm pretty hard-pressed to believe much is going to change as long as Peddie is still collecting an MLSE paycheque.
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Post#11 » by ansoncarter » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:13 pm

cliff press conference is on leaftv right now. Said fergusons will be on at 4 o'clock (or 4:30 not sure)

peddie says the new gm (after cliff) will build for the future but also short term. Which kind of makes no sense lol
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Post#12 » by whysoserious » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:16 pm

Turnpikebandit wrote:Ferguson was bad but he certainly deserved a lot better.

And as per usual, the rat escapes unscathed yet again. I'm pretty hard-pressed to believe much is going to change as long as Peddie is still collecting an MLSE paycheque.


I missed the entire question but someone did basically call Peddie on why he's involved in the next hire based on his history and not involving Cliff.

I don't remember his answer and didn't expect Peddie to answer clearly but I'm glad someone called him on it.
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Post#13 » by Turnpikebandit » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:21 pm

whysoserious wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I missed the entire question but someone did basically call Peddie on why he's involved in the next hire based on his history and not involving Cliff.

I don't remember his answer and didn't expect Peddie to answer clearly but I'm glad someone called him on it.


Very glad to hear this as well. Let's hope the words are just as sharp in the dailies today and tomorrow.

And if anyone can provide any recaps of the pressers, much appreciated.
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Post#14 » by Canuck9 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:23 pm

The leafs gm will never have full autonomy because Richard Peddie is the voice of the OTPP. Scotty Bowman said he wanted similar power to what Brian Colangelo had, and once Peddie, heard that he called him back and said sorry we are going to stick with JFJ. RP knew as soon as Bowman came in he would not be allowed to have anything to do with the daily hockey opearations, his job on the hockey side was being replaced, similar to that of the basketball operations.

Lets remember cliff fletcher is the "draft smaft" guy. He thinks the draft is useless, good luck getting good prospects and picks from these losers.

If hal gill isnt gone within 2 weeks, this team is screwed.
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Post#15 » by ansoncarter » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:24 pm

cliff asked about mats no trade clause, and cliff says the most important thing is to do whats best for mats
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Post#16 » by whysoserious » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:24 pm

Seems like the media is focusing and trying to put heat on Peddie. As usual he's dodging questions but hopefully they keep it up. He can only dodge so much and without one of his written releases, he's bound to slip, just keep the pressure on him throughout the conference.
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Post#17 » by Turnpikebandit » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:27 pm

I'd argue that the problem isn't the OTPP. Teacher's dont' care if they make their money by winning the cup every year or playing the way they currently do.

It's Peddie's vision about how to maximize profits and his incessant need to interject into his team's day-to-day operations that's been the stumbling block.
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Post#18 » by ansoncarter » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:30 pm

cliff's making it sound like he plans to do absolutely nothing
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Post#19 » by whysoserious » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:32 pm

Very true. If you look at the Boston Red Sox, winning just led to more profits and being ultra competitive has just brought new fans to Red Sox nation.

The Teacher's Pension Plan is a small problem. I'd rather see one owner, but that is a small issue. The biggest problem is Peddie.
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Post#20 » by Canuck9 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:33 pm

if that is cliffs vision than Peddie has made another mistake.

if all they do is deal Hal Gill at the trade deadline, I will laugh my ass off. This organization is a joke.

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