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Post#1 » by Crowned » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:17 pm

According to Yahoo and 640, Tucker has refused to waive his no trade clause.


Jan 30 Tucker has indicated he will not waive his no-trade clause in order to be moved to a playoff contender before the trade deadline in late February, reports Toronto's AM640.

Recommendation: Tucker's fantasy value right now is far less than his perceived on-ice value, particularly for those teams looking for an injection of energy, grit and character. Maybe a change of scenery would help his fantasy game, too. We'll watch this for you.


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Post#2 » by Griff83 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:31 pm

It'll be so funny if all our players use there no trade clause's at the deadline and nothing gets done because of it.
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Post#3 » by Mr Swagtastic » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:01 am

Haha I feel sorry for you Leaf fans you stuck with a overpriced 3rd line foward. You would be lucky to get a 4th or 6th round pick for him.
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Post#5 » by emfive » Sat Feb 2, 2008 2:55 am

xbl_sucks wrote:Haha I feel sorry for you Leaf fans you stuck with a overpriced 3rd line foward. You would be lucky to get a 4th or 6th round pick for him.


I would waive him without a second thought. The guy is poison. I would threaten to send him to the Ricoh center and if he did not play a different tune I would send him home.
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Post#6 » by kelso » Sat Feb 2, 2008 10:15 pm

I wouldn't waive him. I'd sit him in the press box until he relented. Hes' been so brutal this year its not like its going to hurt us- I'd much rather give guys like Earl, Tlusty, Ondrus and others some ice time instead of Side-Show-Bob, sho should thank his lucky stars he plays in Toronto, because no ther city would have given him a contract like he has.
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Post#7 » by emfive » Sun Feb 3, 2008 12:15 am

kelso wrote:I wouldn't waive him. I'd sit him in the press box until he relented. Hes' been so brutal this year its not like its going to hurt us- I'd much rather give guys like Earl, Tlusty, Ondrus and others some ice time instead of Side-Show-Bob, sho should thank his lucky stars he plays in Toronto, because no ther city would have given him a contract like he has.


I would not want a mouth piece like this guy near young players. Can you imagine what he would be saying about his unfair treatment, coaches and the org. No thanks! Go home and let us know if you change your mind about anything.
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Post#8 » by MAS » Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:24 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:Haha I feel sorry for you Leaf fans you stuck with a overpriced 3rd line foward. You would be lucky to get a 4th or 6th round pick for him.


1. Tucker's value, despite his play, is still reasonably high. But not high enough that I would consider trading him.

2. Tucker is one of the few players that I would KEEP, due to the fact that his style of play is the type you want on your team no matter what stage they're in. On top of that, if after the deadline we just say "your done Tucks, sit out the rest of the year", then he will be well rested for next year and we should see the same old Tucker. Then I would look at trading him

To me there's no point in selling low in his case because at $3 mill a year, he's not going to really hurt this team
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Post#9 » by whysoserious » Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:48 pm

Griff83 wrote:It'll be so funny if all our players use there no trade clause's at the deadline and nothing gets done because of it.


I'm actually feeling more and more like this will indeed be what happens and that we're going to end up with a pick around seven or so and still be in the same position come next season.

If somehow we are unable to make moves for some prospects and picks by the deadline, it's time for the Leafs to start buying out some of these guys. Money really isn't an object for the Leafs. While no owner's would want to cut down on their profits, the Leafs could afford to buyout these guys and still turn a profit for the season.
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Post#10 » by Griff83 » Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:59 pm

whysoserious wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I'm actually feeling more and more like this will indeed be what happens and that we're going to end up with a pick around seven or so and still be in the same position come next season.

If somehow we are unable to make moves for some prospects and picks by the deadline, it's time for the Leafs to start buying out some of these guys. Money really isn't an object for the Leafs. While no owner's would want to cut down on their profits, the Leafs could afford to buyout these guys and still turn a profit for the season.


On the intermission hotstove last night they were talking about how MLSE has told Fletcher if it comes down to having to buy a player out they will give him the extra money to do so.
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Post#11 » by whysoserious » Mon Feb 4, 2008 12:19 am

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On the intermission hotstove last night they were talking about how MLSE has told Fletcher if it comes down to having to buy a player out they will give him the extra money to do so.


I'll believe it when I see it. In 20 year's growing up as a fan of this team, rarely have I seen a true commitment to build a contending team. There were a few seasons we were good, quite a few that we overachieved and the rest have been mediocre to bad.

Until that philosophy changes, nothing has changed in my opinion of this team and organization.
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Post#12 » by The_Child_Prodigy » Mon Feb 4, 2008 2:29 am

I bet he would waive it to come to Calgary...too bad for him, we don't want him
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Post#13 » by emfive » Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:32 am

MAS wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



1. Tucker's value, despite his play, is still reasonably high. But not high enough that I would consider trading him.

2. Tucker is one of the few players that I would KEEP, due to the fact that his style of play is the type you want on your team no matter what stage they're in. On top of that, if after the deadline we just say "your done Tucks, sit out the rest of the year", then he will be well rested for next year and we should see the same old Tucker. Then I would look at trading him

To me there's no point in selling low in his case because at $3 mill a year, he's not going to really hurt this team


I was never a Tucker fan ever since that Corson thing. And this year he has shown very little. I don't think it is injury. I believe the game has passed him by. If you are small you need great wheels. He does not have that. Good hands can sometimes get you by, but he is not great in that department either. He was tough down low in the past but defences are collapsing low almost every play and he does not have the size to get himself free in those situations. Or so it seems. On top of that his salary is a killer for the game he brings. If someone does not bite (and the story to date out there says someone will :-? ) he needs to come of the cap. It cannot happen soon enough for me.

I know what you are saying about his game. He no longer seems willing to pay the price. Perhaps his ability to so so has gone.

PS Do you know something about his situation that would mitigate what has gone on this year? Is there some sort of injury situation?
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Post#14 » by Griff83 » Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:57 am

I dont know how paying 3 million a year wouldnt hurt us if he continues to play like this?
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Post#15 » by emfive » Mon Feb 4, 2008 4:13 am

Griff83 wrote:I dont know how paying 3 million a year wouldnt hurt us if he continues to play like this?


I would not pay him 3mil. But I would be willing to look him straight in the eye and tell him I would rather pay him 1.5 to play on another team and that MLSE has given me the funds and the go ahead to have him play at the Ricoh center for the full price ... if need be. 8)

I am sure Fletcher can say that much nicer than I just did. :P

That is what he is getting the big bucks for and I am just a fed up fan who has more than a faint recollection of that Corson thing and how much leadership this guy has actually shown in the dressing room.
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Post#16 » by Crowned » Mon Feb 4, 2008 5:51 am

3 million a year is a lot of money, especially under the cap. What has Tucker provided this year and we can't afford to lose in the future? He's not going to improve, he's lost a step, he's no longer as physical...what does he bring to the table besides leadership? For 3 million a year, I want more than a leader in the dressing room.
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Post#17 » by ansoncarter » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:29 am

I don't think there are many teams that would want his contract

last time he scored 20, those were all gimme's on the powerplay. Anyone can stand beside the net and wait for a pass. Media made it sound like some secret play only tucker could pull off lol

and gm's notice he hasn't been hitting. In years. They'll take that as a sign he's worn down. I think those 3 years will scare most teams off
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Post#18 » by Mr Swagtastic » Tue Feb 5, 2008 11:29 pm

Well MAS I agree to a point that you need Tucker's skillset not his production and contract. He's a guy that hurts your cap room, guys like Kris Draper do the same thing for cheaper and better. Tucks should be moved for something the Leafs would be lucky if they could nab a expiring deal for him or a pick.
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Post#19 » by Crowned » Tue Feb 5, 2008 11:34 pm

What skillset are we talking about? The skillset of last year and the year before? He hasn't showed anything this season. He was effective on the PP, had a chip on his shoulder, was a fantastic agitator, went around and hit players till the glass cracked and played his heart out. He hasn't done any of that this season on a consistant basis, and it's what he's getting paid for.
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Post#20 » by kelso » Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:48 pm

The only way Tucker was getting on the scoresheet last night was by taking his incredibly selfish penalties and putting his team down 2 men, which made a ridiculous night even more ridiculous.

I don't care what he has done in the past- its irrelevant. Hurt or not (and I doubt he's hurt) he has been completely garbage this year. He's not worth the 3mil hes getting and if he wont waive his no trade, then sit him in the press box and let Robbie Earl and Ben Ondrus play. At least those guys hustle and give everything they have every shift. They don't play like we owe them something or like they're doing us a favor if they show up tonight.

I couldn't care less about our win/loss record at this point. Just carve off all the rot and decay and attitude and leave guys that can learn, take direction and want to play as a team. Spend money on young talent that will grow and for the love of God don't give ANYONE a no-movement clause again. We have more of those then all the NHL combined.

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