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OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:14 pm
by Devon_s_biring
Although not 100% confirmed, the leafs have made the following trades:
The Calgary Flames have traded defenceman Dion Phaneuf, forward Fredrik Sjostrom, and defenceman Keith Aulie to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for forwards Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers and defenceman Ian White.
http://tsn.ca/
and not as certain as the above trade:
These deals have the leafs eating a lot of money, possibly even going into the tax. I have no clue as to how the CBA works in the NHL, but if the Leafs go into the nhl's luxury tax with support from MLSE, how does this impact the decision to do the same with the Raptors?
Basically, with these huge moves for the leafs, are the raptors less likely to be allowed to go into the tax ???
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:17 pm
by Korr
Give BC a call see what he thinks.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:17 pm
by dagger
Since there is a hard salary cap in the NHL, I don't know how you come to the conclusion that MLSE is "willing to spend".
There is no such thing as paying luxury tax in the NHL now.
It has no impact on the Raptors whatsoever. It does show the value of having competent general managers - or at least guys with big stones - running the two teams, as opposed to Babcock and Ferguson who were junior guys and comparatively timid.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:20 pm
by Raptor/LakerFan
The only thing that these trade mean is that you won't be seeing the Raptors getting much attention in the upoming weeks.
Other than that the Leafs will still suck, they have no scorers now.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:21 pm
by Mak
Leafs suck pretty bad, I don't know why you would start a thread about them here?
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:21 pm
by Death Knight
Acquiring Phaneuf is very impressive, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still "GOLF LEAFS GOLF"
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:21 pm
by youngLion
Phaneuf? ****' A I'll take that.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:22 pm
by Dr Octagon
F**k the Leafs.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:22 pm
by kassian
Phaneuf to the Laffs? Damn.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:23 pm
by Winggfly
Steal trade IMO, because they didnt give up any young guys, and also all those guys that Burke traded werent his, so its all good.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:23 pm
by Devon_s_biring
I thought the NHL would have a luxury tax system somewhat like the NBA and i stand corrected that they have no such thing.
I do have a strong feeling however, that the Raptors will be having a lot of games moved to tsn2, so people can be disappointed by a new Leafs team ... again ...
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:26 pm
by Avenger
dagger wrote:Since there is a hard salary cap in the NHL, I don't know how you come to the conclusion that MLSE is "willing to spend".
There is no such thing as paying luxury tax in the NHL now.
It has no impact on the Raptors whatsoever. It does show the value of having competent general managers - or at least guys with big stones - running the two teams, as opposed to Babcock and Ferguson who were junior guys and comparatively timid.
Well, there are loopholes in their CBA just like ours, Burke can take some over the hill veterans and bury their contracts in the minors, very few teams have the financial backing to do that.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:29 pm
by latino469
wooooooooo
Although the leafs are still bad , Dion Phaneuf is my favourite Canadian defensemen
I heard we also traded Vesa Toskala for JS Giguere
and Burke is not done yet.
Things are starting to get exciting
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:29 pm
by Komodo
It's exciting times for the Leafs today, I've been following this like a hawk so far. Awesome news.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:29 pm
by DreamTeam09
Dion Phaneuf, Kaberle, and Schenn should form a good defensive group... They still suck asses tho, buh that was a good move
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:30 pm
by Nothingface
Obviously if the Leafs pick up these players it means MLSE is going to trade all Raptors core players for scrubs. Mostly likely they will keep the Raptors around to clean the Leafs dressing room.
Jeez, why do Raptors fans have such an inferiority complex about hockey. The puckheads are out to get us!
Why it it beyond the comprehension of some that MLSE wants both the Leafs and Raptors to succeed? Have they actually done anything to prove otherwise???
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:34 pm
by Devon_s_biring
Nothingface wrote:Obviously if the Leafs pick up these players it means MLSE is going to trade all Raptors core players for scrubs. Mostly likely they will keep the Raptors around to clean the Leafs dressing room.
Jeez, why do Raptors fans have such an inferiority complex about hockey. The puckheads are out to get us!
Why it it beyond the comprehension of some that MLSE wants both the Leafs and Raptors to succeed? Have they actually done anything to prove otherwise???
See the TSN2 fiasco, and record low ratings for the Raptors
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:35 pm
by Harold_and_Kumar
Great Trade ... sleeper player in Aulie who's still a young good defenceman
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:40 pm
by Upgrayedd
Devon_s_biring wrote:Nothingface wrote:Obviously if the Leafs pick up these players it means MLSE is going to trade all Raptors core players for scrubs. Mostly likely they will keep the Raptors around to clean the Leafs dressing room.
Jeez, why do Raptors fans have such an inferiority complex about hockey. The puckheads are out to get us!
Why it it beyond the comprehension of some that MLSE wants both the Leafs and Raptors to succeed? Have they actually done anything to prove otherwise???
See the TSN2 fiasco, and record low ratings for the Raptors
The TSN2 fiasco was Rogers fault, and the record low ratings were because the team was bad. Most Canadians would rather watch a bad hockey team than a bad basketball team.
Re: OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:48 pm
by Devon_s_biring
MLSE gave tsn Raptors TV rights, tsn went and put a majority of games on tsn2 and used the raptors as leverage against Rogers ... MLSE allowed it to happen by selling the rights w/ or w/o knowledge of what would occur and thereby left a lot of us without a legitimate and quality means of watching Raptors basketball. MLSE cost Raptors fans ...