Jeff Van Gully wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Before Mitch got hurt, iHart was playing 20mpg some nights 24 at best. Then he went to 38-40mpg nightly. With a condition that is aggravated by overuse. Now he is hurting again. So there's one simple fact that points to Thibs being a madman. Why wasn't he splitting minutes with anyone else?
Jalen was out for a few games with a leg injury. Thibs plays him 80 minutes in his first two games back. More proof. Breen and Clyde begging Thibs to take Jalen out a few games ago. Hmm. Yeah. The fans here make things up.
RJ tweaking his ankle in a blow out last year is another example of lousy minutes distribution. Countless blow out games Thibs has the starters in to the end. Then the bench guys get a minute of GT? Way to go.
Precious going from 7 mpg to 42 mpg? OG playing 44mpg before he got hurt with an injury caused by overuse?. 6-7 man rotations? Playing 5 guys an entire 2nd half of a game? Hart having jumpers knee and playing 42mpg. Even HE commented about his minutes a week ago.
Anyone denying Thibs is awful at this is high. Stop looking at avgs because like everything else stats related, it doesn't come close to telling the whole story. This was just off the top of my head. He clearly doesn't use the bench enough during the regular season until everyone else gets hurt. Even then he tends to shorten the rotation instead. This cannot be denied. When players and announcers are commenting on it...there's an issue.
it's not a simple fact. but a fair point that hartenstein may struggle with starter's minutes. i've never argued that, but thanks.
i was right there calling thibs a madman in that same game. these are not zero sum discussions. like i said, the situations matter.
precious is young and doesn't have miles or injury concerns that i know of. we literally use him to help eat innings. he's growing in an opportunity that's been presented. i don't think his minutes boost is inappropriate.
the rotations themselves are a very fair point of discussion. if the argument is that he shoud be going 10 deep or even a meaningful 9, fine. in this modern game, that's probably right.
josh hart is exhausted and needs rest. i even read an article about it. i agree with it fully. there are likely adjustments that can be made to address this. but we are also down useful/winning players. this is one of those tough stretches. prior to some of these injuries, some of which maybe can be attributed to overuse, some of which seem preposterous to (contact injuries we watched happen), hart was playing minutes that probably made more sense for him.
6-7-man rotations is one of those not real things. you can be up on your points without the hyperbole. they hurt.
and another fact remains that the mpg argument has been a real one. so to address it is not inappropriate. if the shoe doesn't fit your argument, why take it on? not talking to you then. but you have taken on an anti-thibs persona lately, so everything feels like your issue.
you can keep all the rest of that borderline personal attack if you don't agree with me you must be [x] bs. that's not productive or good faith discussion. it takes away from the validity you could have. we've discussed things like this before.