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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#181 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:30 am

I can't believe the FO and the team's sports medicine staff don't sit with Thibs and talk about minutes, and rotations keeping guys fresher.

But then I saw Nick Nurse and Masai in the scenario last year where Masai wanted him to play young guys more but Nick played his vets heavy minutes because he felt he had to. It was a big reason he was fired
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#182 » by Adelheid » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:05 am

WaltFrazier wrote:I can't believe the FO and the team's sports medicine staff don't sit with Thibs and talk about minutes, and rotations keeping guys fresher.

But then I saw Nick Nurse and Masai in the scenario last year where Masai wanted him to play young guys more but Nick played his vets heavy minutes because he felt he had to. It was a big reason he was fired


I think stuff like this happen when the hc doesnt feel any sort of job security; that he has to chase wins just to keep his job. The said FO may have failed in providing the notion that "they have his back so he does not have to worry about some seasonal losses for youth development"

The NBA league offices can certainly step in and solve this problem: help develop young guys and reduce risk of injuries. These concepts are actually related to each other so they can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, but I doubt they would do what I have in mind
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#183 » by K_ick_God » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:32 am

Ppl complaining about Deuce’s height but he goes in for, and has completed, 1-handed dunks. He had an off game but you know it’s all after they ripped the rug out from under him.

Saying to (showing) someone that he’s trusted … it matters, even at this level.

Now he’s losing time to a pathetic has-been, never-was bum.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#184 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:54 am

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WaltFrazier wrote:I can't believe the FO and the team's sports medicine staff don't sit with Thibs and talk about minutes, and rotations keeping guys fresher.

But then I saw Nick Nurse and Masai in the scenario last year where Masai wanted him to play young guys more but Nick played his vets heavy minutes because he felt he had to. It was a big reason he was fired


I think stuff like this happen when the hc doesnt feel any sort of job security; that he has to chase wins just to keep his job. The said FO may have failed in providing the notion that "they have his back so he does not have to worry about some seasonal losses for youth development"

The NBA league offices can certainly step in and solve this problem: help develop young guys and reduce risk of injuries. These concepts are actually related to each other so they can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, but I doubt they would do what I have in mind


I am legitimately curious. What is your idea?
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#185 » by Adelheid » Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:15 am

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WaltFrazier wrote:I can't believe the FO and the team's sports medicine staff don't sit with Thibs and talk about minutes, and rotations keeping guys fresher.

But then I saw Nick Nurse and Masai in the scenario last year where Masai wanted him to play young guys more but Nick played his vets heavy minutes because he felt he had to. It was a big reason he was fired


I think stuff like this happen when the hc doesnt feel any sort of job security; that he has to chase wins just to keep his job. The said FO may have failed in providing the notion that "they have his back so he does not have to worry about some seasonal losses for youth development"

The NBA league offices can certainly step in and solve this problem: help develop young guys and reduce risk of injuries. These concepts are actually related to each other so they can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, but I doubt they would do what I have in mind


I am legitimately curious. What is your idea?


Its as just simple as imposing a maximum amount of playtime for all players. For the idea to work, the league has to provide a uniform, periodic and obligatory time for substitutions (makes it much easier to track down minutes for each player). Though as it changes the fundamentals of game, it may need some approval from FIBA imo. I didnt elaborate on the whole scheme but thats the gist of it.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#186 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:15 pm

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I think stuff like this happen when the hc doesnt feel any sort of job security; that he has to chase wins just to keep his job. The said FO may have failed in providing the notion that "they have his back so he does not have to worry about some seasonal losses for youth development"

The NBA league offices can certainly step in and solve this problem: help develop young guys and reduce risk of injuries. These concepts are actually related to each other so they can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, but I doubt they would do what I have in mind


I am legitimately curious. What is your idea?


Its as just simple as imposing a maximum amount of playtime for all players. For the idea to work, the league has to provide a uniform, periodic and obligatory time for substitutions (makes it much easier to track down minutes for each player). Though as it changes the fundamentals of game, it may need some approval from FIBA imo. I didnt elaborate on the whole scheme but thats the gist of it.


interesting. i get the spirit of it.

seems like a challenge would be if you're in a close game and you have a healthy star who could be fine to go say, 42 minutes that night, and you have a forced substitution.

would change the game for sure. could help to protect players, but have other impacts on the sport. very interesting though.
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Post#192 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:56 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:I can't believe the FO and the team's sports medicine staff don't sit with Thibs and talk about minutes, and rotations keeping guys fresher.

But then I saw Nick Nurse and Masai in the scenario last year where Masai wanted him to play young guys more but Nick played his vets heavy minutes because he felt he had to. It was a big reason he was fired


I think stuff like this happen when the hc doesnt feel any sort of job security; that he has to chase wins just to keep his job. The said FO may have failed in providing the notion that "they have his back so he does not have to worry about some seasonal losses for youth development"

The NBA league offices can certainly step in and solve this problem: help develop young guys and reduce risk of injuries. These concepts are actually related to each other so they can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, but I doubt they would do what I have in mind


Interesting. But I think the league published some study trying to show that a shorter season, and reducing back to backs, and load management in general, don't reduce injuries. Something like that, so the league leans in the opposite direction
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#194 » by rajajackal » Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:16 pm

i can't handle any more pre brunson players coming back here. i didn't mind grabbing burks as bench help but what i've learned is that i am too traumatized by the past to watch him while we lose without feeling like i've lost my beautiful new life
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Post#195 » by louisorr » Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:33 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:I can't believe the FO and the team's sports medicine staff don't sit with Thibs and talk about minutes, and rotations keeping guys fresher.

But then I saw Nick Nurse and Masai in the scenario last year where Masai wanted him to play young guys more but Nick played his vets heavy minutes because he felt he had to. It was a big reason he was fired


I think stuff like this happen when the hc doesnt feel any sort of job security; that he has to chase wins just to keep his job. The said FO may have failed in providing the notion that "they have his back so he does not have to worry about some seasonal losses for youth development"

The NBA league offices can certainly step in and solve this problem: help develop young guys and reduce risk of injuries. These concepts are actually related to each other so they can kill 2 birds with 1 stone, but I doubt they would do what I have in mind


Interesting. But I think the league published some study trying to show that a shorter season, and reducing back to backs, and load management in general, don't reduce injuries. Something like that, so the league leans in the opposite direction

plus the players wouldn't go for it in CBA negotiations. anything that imposes limits on their ability to earn would be tossed. Do you think they mind sitting out 3/4 of a 50 million dollar contract with an injury? there are plenty of Ben Simmons malingerer types who are just peachy with it the way it is. not to mention the $$ impact on the owners.
I like the idea as an aspirational thing that clubs can look at internally, but cant see it being regulated.
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