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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#121 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:36 pm

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lol. I mistakenly opened this thread and was appalled by all the 6er glazing going on. Something had to get said.

Idgaf what maxey averaged in one playoff series. Thats a silly use of stats. He hasn't carried a team. Also in that series against Brunson averaging all that HE LOST to Brunson. So he isn't quite as good as Brunson. Which isn't a slight. He is nice. But just not as nice as Brunson.

As for pg13 - empty calories, a paper tiger, a fraud. No pg13 is better than pg13. So by that simple math tobias bridges is better than pg13. Can't argue math, homie. :D

maxey vs brunson can go either way so idc if you think brunson is better

where you cross the line is tobias bridges being better than paul george :lol: that man has a career average of 21.2 ppg 7.5 rpg 4.1 apg in the playoffs. mikal is never touching those numbers in the playoffs.


Counting stats are pointless. Bridges is a better defender, better 3rd option, didn't get clowned by an Australian who likes like the pr rep from the office, healthier, plays for the knicks, doesn't have a stupid pod, leg isnt held together by Adamantium, is on the right side of 30, has a weird hitch in his shot, doesn't have highlight reels of being clowned in the playoffs.

But if you want to champion for wayoff p by all means have at it. Don't let me or your self respect get in your way.

:lol: Tobias bridges made ingram look like prime t-mac in the playoffs

im not even much of a pg13 fan but the guy is 1000232903213x better than mikal. every player ranking list out there agrees on that. you have no shame in having bad takes eh
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#122 » by KnixinSix » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:03 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:maxey vs brunson can go either way so idc if you think brunson is better

where you cross the line is tobias bridges being better than paul george :lol: that man has a career average of 21.2 ppg 7.5 rpg 4.1 apg in the playoffs. mikal is never touching those numbers in the playoffs.


Counting stats are pointless. Bridges is a better defender, better 3rd option, didn't get clowned by an Australian who likes like the pr rep from the office, healthier, plays for the knicks, doesn't have a stupid pod, leg isnt held together by Adamantium, is on the right side of 30, has a weird hitch in his shot, doesn't have highlight reels of being clowned in the playoffs.

But if you want to champion for wayoff p by all means have at it. Don't let me or your self respect get in your way.

:lol: Tobias bridges made ingram look like prime t-mac in the playoffs

im not even much of a pg13 fan but the guy is 1000232903213x better than mikal. every player ranking list out there agrees on that. you have no shame in having bad takes eh


A healthy PG sure. But he is past his prime so he isnt quite at his heyday AND he is super injury prone to begin with.

Sometimes the best ability is availability and Bridges is almost a decade younger, quite durable and a better defender.

Id take Bridges 10x out of 10x at this point in their careers when you consider all factors.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#123 » by KnixinSix » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:05 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Philly's depth behind their "big 3" that likely will only play 20-40 games together because of health issues

Big Bad Kelly Oubre :o
Caleb Martin (not in a Heat uniform and not coached by Erik Spoelstra)
The corpse of Eric Gordon
The corpse of Kyle Lowry
Tik Tok McClain
Yabusele (Fat)
Drummond (also fat)
Reggie Jackson (just cheeks)
Kenyon Martin Jr. (Not his dad)

But yeah tell me more about how I should be scared of this supporting cast LMAO.


Philly is a ticking time bomb. Their top 2 players are about injury prone as they come.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#124 » by KnixinSix » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:10 pm

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Ahhh... I think there was my original disconnect. You were talking about the players getting ahead of themselves?



Haha maybe I’ve spoken in a little bit of column A & column B. Apologies for the confusion.

Certainly regarding the players, I think having a team captain like Brunson is invaluable because he has the fire within but never gets ahead of himself. That kind of leadership is key imo.

For me as a fan / outsider, I need to see a fair bit more before feeling confident in some of the other opinions in this thread. Maybe that’s partly managing expectations.
To be clear though, I like our squad on paper more than Philly. I think our chemistry should only further assist here.

Boston imo, deserve to be bookmaker’s favourites. But we have the right ingredients to make it damn interesting.


Honestly if we had Ihart next to Towns right now I would put us ahead of them. RIght now I have usneck and neck but you're right we have to see it played out on the court.


Post OG we blew them Celts out on their homecourt. Folks claim they weren't playing I absolutely believe they were at least in the 1st half.

Folks don't realize just how good Thibs system is when he has an elite wing defender. Now we added Bridges to OG!

I mean they had a great season last year and the KAT dynamic I havent fully figured out just how much better that will make us. But if it is what I think it will be coupled with Bridges/OG (and Hart and McBride) 4 elite defenders we absolutely cam give them a run for the money.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#125 » by KnixinSix » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:16 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:embiid has regularly owned kat. this is probably the opponent who the trade will be the least helpful for.

Karl-Anthony Towns is very talented, but now in the East, he’ll have to compete against top big men, including his toughest opponent, Joel Embiid.

In their 11 head-to-head matchups, Embiid has won eight of them and posed much better box score averages than KAT. It’s also worth noting that Embiid had a 51 point, 14 rebound, and 8 assist night against KAT in 2023.
Head-to-head stats

Joel Embiid: 28.6 PPG, 9.7 RPG, 3.2 APG, 0.8 SPG, 1.4 BPG

KAT: 21.4 PPG, 10.4 RPG, 2.2 APG, 1.0 SPG, 1.0 BPG

Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.

This matchup has been very one-sided. Embiid’s impact on both offense and defense has overwhelmed Towns. In their last ten games, Embiid has shot over 50% while limiting Towns’ shooting efficiency when they face off.


https://thelibertyline.com/2024/09/28/joel-embiid-owns-karl-anthony-towns/



it certainly can't be as ineffective ihart was guarding him. It was an auto bocket.

Embiid scored what 33 ppg vs us. So that better than what Ihart was doing.

But ultimately if we keep Mitch...that is singularly the reason you keep Mitch to throw him on embiid for like 20 mins and make his life hell.


Good perspective.

We had some success guarding him by committee. Achiuwa, OG and especially Mitch.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#126 » by RHODEY » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:49 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Parraknick wrote:

Haha maybe I’ve spoken in a little bit of column A & column B. Apologies for the confusion.

Certainly regarding the players, I think having a team captain like Brunson is invaluable because he has the fire within but never gets ahead of himself. That kind of leadership is key imo.

For me as a fan / outsider, I need to see a fair bit more before feeling confident in some of the other opinions in this thread. Maybe that’s partly managing expectations.
To be clear though, I like our squad on paper more than Philly. I think our chemistry should only further assist here.

Boston imo, deserve to be bookmaker’s favourites. But we have the right ingredients to make it damn interesting.


Honestly if we had Ihart next to Towns right now I would put us ahead of them. RIght now I have usneck and neck but you're right we have to see it played out on the court.


Post OG we blew them Celts out on their homecourt. Folks claim they weren't playing I absolutely believe they were at least in the 1st half.

Folks don't realize just how good Thibs system is when he has an elite wing defender. Now we added Bridges to OG!

I mean they had a great season last year and the KAT dynamic I havent fully figured out just how much better that will make us. But if it is what I think it will be coupled with Bridges/OG (and Hart and McBride) 4 elite defenders we absolutely cam give them a run for the money.


Despite what Celt fans will tell you , they wanted that win and we destroyed them. From that team we lost Ihart and Divenczo, but we added Mikal and Towns. But they do have the advantage right now in familiarity/cohesion. But we get Mitch back (or whoever we trade him for) and some reps in and I'm hopeful.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#127 » by Guano » Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:05 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:maxey vs brunson can go either way so idc if you think brunson is better

where you cross the line is tobias bridges being better than paul george :lol: that man has a career average of 21.2 ppg 7.5 rpg 4.1 apg in the playoffs. mikal is never touching those numbers in the playoffs.


Counting stats are pointless. Bridges is a better defender, better 3rd option, didn't get clowned by an Australian who likes like the pr rep from the office, healthier, plays for the knicks, doesn't have a stupid pod, leg isnt held together by Adamantium, is on the right side of 30, has a weird hitch in his shot, doesn't have highlight reels of being clowned in the playoffs.

But if you want to champion for wayoff p by all means have at it. Don't let me or your self respect get in your way.

:lol: Tobias bridges made ingram look like prime t-mac in the playoffs

im not even much of a pg13 fan but the guy is 1000232903213x better than mikal. every player ranking list out there agrees on that. you have no shame in having bad takes eh


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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#128 » by KnixinSix » Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:05 am

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Honestly if we had Ihart next to Towns right now I would put us ahead of them. RIght now I have usneck and neck but you're right we have to see it played out on the court.


Post OG we blew them Celts out on their homecourt. Folks claim they weren't playing I absolutely believe they were at least in the 1st half.

Folks don't realize just how good Thibs system is when he has an elite wing defender. Now we added Bridges to OG!

I mean they had a great season last year and the KAT dynamic I havent fully figured out just how much better that will make us. But if it is what I think it will be coupled with Bridges/OG (and Hart and McBride) 4 elite defenders we absolutely cam give them a run for the money.


Despite what Celt fans will tell you , they wanted that win and we destroyed them. From that team we lost Ihart and Divenczo, but we added Mikal and Towns. But they do have the advantage right now in familiarity/cohesion. But we get Mitch back (or whoever we trade him for) and some reps in and I'm hopeful.


Familiarity and cohesion advantage no doubt . But in theory by mid season we should have been pretty gelled. And Mitch back potentially well before the end of season.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#129 » by RHODEY » Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:56 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:maxey vs brunson can go either way so idc if you think brunson is better

where you cross the line is tobias bridges being better than paul george :lol: that man has a career average of 21.2 ppg 7.5 rpg 4.1 apg in the playoffs. mikal is never touching those numbers in the playoffs.


Counting stats are pointless. Bridges is a better defender, better 3rd option, didn't get clowned by an Australian who likes like the pr rep from the office, healthier, plays for the knicks, doesn't have a stupid pod, leg isnt held together by Adamantium, is on the right side of 30, has a weird hitch in his shot, doesn't have highlight reels of being clowned in the playoffs.

But if you want to champion for wayoff p by all means have at it. Don't let me or your self respect get in your way.

:lol: Tobias bridges made ingram look like prime t-mac in the playoffs

im not even much of a pg13 fan but the guy is 1000232903213x better than mikal. every player ranking list out there agrees on that. you have no shame in having bad takes eh

Call him pg133 cuz he old! :D
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#130 » by Wildcat » Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:02 pm

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
Counting stats are pointless. Bridges is a better defender, better 3rd option, didn't get clowned by an Australian who likes like the pr rep from the office, healthier, plays for the knicks, doesn't have a stupid pod, leg isnt held together by Adamantium, is on the right side of 30, has a weird hitch in his shot, doesn't have highlight reels of being clowned in the playoffs.

But if you want to champion for wayoff p by all means have at it. Don't let me or your self respect get in your way.

:lol: Tobias bridges made ingram look like prime t-mac in the playoffs

im not even much of a pg13 fan but the guy is 1000232903213x better than mikal. every player ranking list out there agrees on that. you have no shame in having bad takes eh


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