ImageImageImageImageImage

PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort

Moderators: Deeeez Knicks, dakomish23, mpharris36, j4remi, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, HerSports85

LFGK
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,843
And1: 1,486
Joined: Apr 24, 2024
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#221 » by LFGK » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:41 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:
LFGK wrote:
those injuries weren't on Thibs though.

I'm not talking about injuries

I'm saying you're using a hypothetical scenario to explain your undying fanaticism of someone who has never been able to translate regular season success into postseason success

You guys are in here after every win talking like it proves how great of a coach Thibs is just like Randle stans after every good regular season game he had, despite the fact that we all know they're good in the regular season, it's just about the playoffs

We have a championship caliber starting 5. Anything less than a Conference finals would be a disappointment, I don't care if he goes 82-0 in the regular season.


Tom treats the regular season like the playoffs and then people are shocked when the team sputters out in the 2nd round. It's happened twice in two years now.


the team lost last year because we didnt have bodies(just randle and mitch would have been enough) not because ppl were tired. The year before they were not winning that series without Randle there was not enough scoring without him. People wanna blame Thibs for everything, if he gets to the ECF this season it'll end up turning to He better have got there the roster is nasty.
LFGK
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,843
And1: 1,486
Joined: Apr 24, 2024
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#222 » by LFGK » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:58 pm

GettinitDone wrote:
DOT wrote:
LFGK wrote:
those injuries weren't on Thibs though.

I'm not talking about injuries

I'm saying you're using a hypothetical scenario to explain your undying fanaticism of someone who has never been able to translate regular season success into postseason success

You guys are in here after every win talking like it proves how great of a coach Thibs is just like Randle stans after every good regular season game he had, despite the fact that we all know they're good in the regular season, it's just about the playoffs

We have a championship caliber starting 5. Anything less than a Conference finals would be a disappointment, I don't care if he goes 82-0 in the regular season.


Also remember Thibs was on the verge of being fired before he put Divo and IHart in SL, and before we made the OG trade.

The 2 guys he wouldn't have used rotting on the bench saved him.

Also buried Burks with DNPs for a 1+ month then when players dropped like flies he was forced to play him and immediately produced. The same Burks he was playing 40mpg/ couldn't take off the floor years ago.

I doubt Deuce really needed years of DNPs to become the good role player he is today. Deuce had been Deuce all this time, the difference is he gets minutes today.

Ball don't lie, Huk can block shots, CAN PASS to cutters or to outside shooters in high post/ even AS HE DRIVES TO THE RIM, isn't afraid to take shots and actually CAN MAKE SHOTS, he's far away better than Sims yet Sims stays ahead in rotation. I mean sure, if you wanna base on "experience" (tho you can hardly tell if today's Sims has improved at all from rookie Sims), you want Sims to be ahead in rotation, but to actually give 0 mins to Huk, how can ANY PLAYER (even prime MJ or prime LeBron) NOT SUCK with DNPs? The same Sims he wouldn't play when Precious is healthy, but when KAT is out he plays Sims STRAIGHT FROM MONTHS LONG DNPs to STARTING. This man has lost it. He's just not making substitutions because the players can't perform, but because HE IS LAZY DOING IT.

Our bench doesn't suck, they just don't get opportunities. I have no doubt actual good coaches like Daignault, Atkinson, Spo (just found a "good" bench player in Kel'el Ware, started him a few games ago, and this kid may now save the Heat franchise) would find minutes for Huk, Kolek (who can also play), and even Pac. Give them minutes first, and determine whether they can or can't play. How can anyone make determination a player sucks FROM DNPs?? Only **** like Thibs and his BLIND defenders do that !!

When it comes to BASIC HUMAN FATIGUE CONCEPT, you play a player 40 mins every 2 days, weeks/ months later he's not gonna run around any fresher than another player who plays 30-32 mins every 2 days.

I just can't with Thibs anymore... he's surely as smart as people around the L regard him to be, so it's IMPOSSIBLE for him not to understand basic human fatigue concept, the failure to keep our key players fresh in 4th qs of games, and when it matters at the end of season just comes to LAZINESS. Similar to a good chef who can cook and understands the concept of hygiene but is just TOO LAZY/ CAN'T BE BOTHERED to clean his own station, it's left uncleaned for days/ weeks/ months until hygiene starts affecting the quality of the very food he serves. Thibs would rather spend all those secs thinking about/ doing subs yelling on the sidelines.

I have no doubt had we had a coach who made use of our bench we would've won those games we should've when it was clear we didn't have legs in the 4th (the 2 Bulls games, the road Jazz game, Magic game without Paolo/Wagner, even the road Thunder game), and we could be ahead of the Celtics today, maybe only 1-2 GB of the Cavs instead of currently 6.5 GB.



how many top tier guys are playing 30-32 min? 32 MPG is the 69th ranked player Hacimura, Tobias, Zubac, Brooks, Vucevic. Most of the star players start at that 34-35 min mark(which is what KAT and Brunson is at). People are complaining about 2-3 min a game? i wonder if minn fans complain about edwards or den about jokic or philly about maxey.
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 96,096
And1: 137,805
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#223 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:25 pm

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
:lol:
This isn't defending its incriminating.

I know we're all miserable here. And we have to nitpick every lil thing. But at some point we should maybe try to enjoy what we have instead of lusting over some prospect on the blazers. Or not. Be a heathen. I know you can't help it.

Image

We’re 0-4 against the top 4 teams in both conferences. It’s hard for me to get excited beating up on bad teams knowing this team isn’t a contender. I have higher standards mf. Be better guan0!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
No you don't.
Spoiler:
Image

The audacity when this guy was ur wiseman!
Spoiler:
Image
Image
It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
User avatar
Guano
RealGM
Posts: 39,621
And1: 66,995
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Location: any port

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#224 » by Guano » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:53 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Image

We’re 0-4 against the top 4 teams in both conferences. It’s hard for me to get excited beating up on bad teams knowing this team isn’t a contender. I have higher standards mf. Be better guan0!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
No you don't.
Spoiler:
Image

The audacity when this guy was ur wiseman!
Spoiler:
Image


1. You liked him.
2. I'm not in here lying about having. Standards
3. You're terrible
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 96,096
And1: 137,805
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#225 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:02 pm

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
No you don't.
Spoiler:
Image

The audacity when this guy was ur wiseman!
Spoiler:
Image


1. You liked him.
2. I'm not in here lying about having. Standards
3. You're terrible

1. Betraying your first love is nasty work
2. The audacity of u
3. I’ll see u in hell
Image
It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
User avatar
Guano
RealGM
Posts: 39,621
And1: 66,995
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Location: any port

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#226 » by Guano » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:07 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:The audacity when this guy was ur wiseman!
Spoiler:
Image


1. You liked him.
2. I'm not in here lying about having. Standards
3. You're terrible

1. Betraying your first love is nasty work
2. The audacity of u
3. I’ll see u in hell


:lol:
I'll save you a front row seat.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Knicks Byke
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,888
And1: 4,908
Joined: Aug 11, 2015
   

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#227 » by Knicks Byke » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:47 pm

was Thibs really in the hot seat at one point?
User avatar
Guano
RealGM
Posts: 39,621
And1: 66,995
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Location: any port

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#228 » by Guano » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:59 pm

Knicks Byke wrote:was Thibs really in the hot seat at one point?


If it fits your agenda run with it if it doesn't don't believe it. Thats how I typically deal with rumors.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Spree2Houston
Head Coach
Posts: 7,425
And1: 8,845
Joined: Feb 21, 2015
     

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#229 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:46 am

52 bench points
seren
RealGM
Posts: 24,720
And1: 4,949
Joined: Jul 21, 2002

Re: PG: Knicks vs. Kings: All Around Effort 

Post#230 » by seren » Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:46 am

Just came back from MSG. Amazing atmosphere. The crowd was hyped. Loved to watch the angles Bridges running on fast breaks. He is so much fun to watch live. OG is a solid dude. When he goes for the dunk almost slow motion, it is something. I loved KAT taking it to the rack. Everyone was on attack mode tonight. They were merciless. Precious was shooting threes without any hesitation and even took the ball all the way in a fast break. I loved Thibs letting the bench play tonight. There was a short period at the end of the third and start of fourth when the bench slowed a bit. Shamet and Payne looked ineffective. I was thinking here goes Thibs. He will definitely take them out. But credit to him, he waited. And what do you know? Those two started making plays and hitting their shots. Just a bit of patience paid off.

Return to New York Knicks