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Re: PG: Knicks vs. 76ers: Philly Cheese Steaks Tonight! 

Post#141 » by Gravy » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:40 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Our players look amazing against the worst teams. So people are using that as a way to say Thibs has been holding them back. Yet those very same players disappear against the contenders.

Fans are focusing on the coaches from the other top teams but those teams made a leap when they added key players to the roster and fixed some of their issues.
OKC- Caruso, IHart
Cle- Deandre Hunter, healthier players
Celtics - Jrue + KP


What? The excuses for Thibs running 7-8 man rotations all season has reached desperately low levels.

I'm talking about how they went from good team to contender status. They needed roster upgrades.

Mazulla won 57 games and lost in the ecf. They needed Jrue and KP to put them over the top.
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Post#142 » by Guano » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:47 pm

See this is the sht that is upsetting and one of the mant things that makes this place horrible. We witnessed a once in a lifetime game last night and instead of talking about it were talking about thibs. Give this man his flowers. He out up stats no knick has ever done before. We witnessed history.

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Post#143 » by snadler » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:57 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:No team that has a core of Brunson, KAT, OG and Bridges should be getting blown out by anyone.
Two of those four play poor defence. One of those four plays slow while the other 3 play fast. All four want/need 15+ shots.

It's the mentality that is a problem. Bridges doesn't really love being a third option. Neither does OG.

The names sound good but there are holes in the seams.

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What? The holes are in the coaching. Insinuating that Bridges/OG play poorly because of mentality is ridiculous. Maybe if the HC would get EVERYONE involved on offense we wouldn't be getting blown out all of the time. Maybe if he utilized the talent he has on the bench, players wouldn't be burned out or dealing with nagging overuse injuries by the time January rolls around. We should have been playing Brunson off ball a lot sooner than waiting for him to be out with an injury. Thibs doesn't try anything other than ISO Brunson running the show. Everyone else standing in the corner waiting to see what happens next. That's not an offensive system. It's not the best use of your roster at all. We are seeing the proof unfold in real time

. Let other guys handle the ball where they are comfortable. Players like Shamet are best getting the ball in motion for catch and shoot. Thibs usually has him standing in a corner. OG has to defend the entire team and then he gets to stand in the corner on offense. Mikal has to chase guys around fighting through screens on defense for 40 minutes a night and he gets to stand in the corner on offense. KAT should be shooting way more threes. He is driving from the perimeter and getting hacked and whacked all the way to the basket with no calls. Brunson is fighting longer defenders full court to get the ball over the line. We don't even set back screens for him! Just leave him on an island.

There is no design to our offense. Let the game tell you what to do? No. Impose your will. Make the opponent play your game. Make them expend energy on defense so they have tired legs on offense. You know, like every other team does to us because they already know we will be tired from playing too many minutes as it is.

The crazy excuses for why we suddenly see better play after 60+ games due to injuries really tells the whole story. Thibs has zero business running an offense. His antiquated defense only works with the a top rim protector in the league. Without that he has no answers for anything. His positives as a HC are minimal.



Holy crap reading this makes me think this team is 27-48 not 48-27..my god this is infuriating to read all this negativity. This team has it’s flaws, but winning over 50 plus games with a brand new team and some of you are just flat out miserable. Thibs is doing a fantastic job this season, taking a brand new roster, losing brunson for 13 games, no mitch for basically 50 plus, seeing OG take his game to another level, hart having a career season. This comes off as someone who clearly has an anti Thibs agenda
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Re: PG: Knicks vs. 76ers: Philly Cheese Steaks Tonight! 

Post#144 » by Guano » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:58 pm

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snadler wrote:Right now that long term success is 50-52 wins and 2nd round exits.


Maybe it’s the 20 consecutive years of watching dog crap talking but I’m enjoying it to the fullest. All they have to do is catch lightning in a bottle one time. Happens to other teams, could happen here one of these years, that’s enough to make it worth watching

People will regret taking stretches of 50 win teams for granted when we’re back in the cellar for another generation. We could be watching the new “90s Knicks” who never won shittu


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Post#145 » by Gravy » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:15 pm

Guano wrote:See this is the sht that is upsetting and one of the mant things that makes this place horrible. We witnessed a once in a lifetime game last night and instead of talking about it were talking about thibs. Give this man his flowers. He out up stats no knick has ever done before. We witnessed history.

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This is why OG has to average 45 minutes a night, Kolek aint the backup power forward lol
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Post#146 » by robillionaire » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:27 pm

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Maybe it’s the 20 consecutive years of watching dog crap talking but I’m enjoying it to the fullest. All they have to do is catch lightning in a bottle one time. Happens to other teams, could happen here one of these years, that’s enough to make it worth watching

People will regret taking stretches of 50 win teams for granted when we’re back in the cellar for another generation. We could be watching the new “90s Knicks” who never won shittu


Rob is in here letting us know we're in the good ol' days before they go.


In basketball and beyond :lol:
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Post#147 » by robillionaire » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:29 pm

Guano wrote:See this is the sht that is upsetting and one of the mant things that makes this place horrible. We witnessed a once in a lifetime game last night and instead of talking about it were talking about thibs. Give this man his flowers. He out up stats no knick has ever done before. We witnessed history.

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Most of them weren’t even close either. No bad rim outs or anything. All bricks. He managed to airball a 5 foot hook shot. Something to tell the grandkids about
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Post#148 » by Guano » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:35 pm

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Guano wrote:See this is the sht that is upsetting and one of the mant things that makes this place horrible. We witnessed a once in a lifetime game last night and instead of talking about it were talking about thibs. Give this man his flowers. He out up stats no knick has ever done before. We witnessed history.

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Most of them weren’t even close either. No bad rim outs or anything. All bricks. He managed to airball a 5 foot hook shot. Something to tell the grandkids about


What's hilarious is idk which one you're even referring to. There were a few of them. My favorite was his second left handed hook/push shot that he didn't need to even use his off hand, but fck it, he missed the first one so badly might as well try it again. And after missing it egregiously, clyde even laughed about it and called him out on his bullcht.
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Post#149 » by robillionaire » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:37 pm

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Guano wrote:See this is the sht that is upsetting and one of the mant things that makes this place horrible. We witnessed a once in a lifetime game last night and instead of talking about it were talking about thibs. Give this man his flowers. He out up stats no knick has ever done before. We witnessed history.

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Most of them weren’t even close either. No bad rim outs or anything. All bricks. He managed to airball a 5 foot hook shot. Something to tell the grandkids about


What's hilarious is idk which one you're even referring to. There were a few of them. My favorite was his second left handed hook/push shot that he didn't need to even use his off hand, but fck it, he missed the first one so badly might as well try it again. And after missing it egregiously, clyde even laughed about it and called him out on his bullcht.


His best highlights were the intangibles that might not show up on the stat sheet, like when the ball is passed to him, he’s not even looking for it and can’t catch it. Which happened 10 times.

You could create a career lowlight video off this one game :lol:
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Post#150 » by sol537 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:46 pm

When Precious is bad... he's uber bad. I'm glad we don't have to rely on him in the playoffs. Mitch is far superior in almost every way.

I'd love to see Thibs grow some cajones and go with Mitch, KAT, OG, Mikal, and Brunson to start games in the playoffs and then use Hart, Deuce, and Shamet (or Wright) off the bench as the 8-man rotation while staggering KAT/Mitch minutes throughout.
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Post#151 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:09 pm

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It’s not so much about having very good players he’s not utilizing as much as it is simply just playing them to give the starters a break. That’s really the root of why people complain about it. People are saying these guys can play in the league at least and give you the chance to rest the starters without blowing a lead or putting the game at a major risk of getting out of hand. That’s really all. And if they prove to be better than we thought, it’s only a plus because maybe we kill two birds with one stone and up their trade value.

As for all the other adjustments or experimenting with the offense, defense, rotations, etc, it’s not so much about getting extra wins, it’s about seeing what we really got here playing at its best so we can make the best decisions in the summer to improve it.

Making a bunch of changes one summer and then wasting the season because the coach didn’t use them correctly, kinda puts you back to square one the following summer… like damn, what do we really have here and where do we really need to improve or what would help these guys even more?

The issues with our players have been going on since before Thibs has even coached them as I said in another post though. Blaming Thibs for that doesn’t really make much sense.

And again I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes and could get more creative with his offense. But ultimately I care about the wins. I don’t really see anything changing even with the adjustments you want him to do. Those are just very minor adjustments at the end of the day. At the end of the day he got KAT to be an all star starter for the first time… hart and OG are having career seasons. Hes done a lot to get guys to play better.



Sure Tom is good at getting guys to play harder and gives them free reign to go out and get buckets which is why KAT n Jalen got their starting All Star nods, but how does that translate to winning playoff basketball?

It also leaves guys like Mikal just standing in the corner and KAT (despite having an All Star starter year) not being used to his max ability… mainly 3pt shot attempts, types of looks (doesn’t come off screens much), playing in drop coverage, posting up 100 ft out, etc. Jalen n KAT aren’t really a dynamic duo either… I expected more in the way of them playing off one another. Not Joker-Jamal level, but better than this.

I haven’t mentioned anything specifically in this convo adjustments wise yet besides minutes and rotation. The schemes and actions mentioned throughout the year that he hasn’t tried are significant.

Like what I mentioned above about KAT and Mikal plus a lack of p&r with those two. With Brunson out Mikal has looked better with more opportunities to handle the rock. Thibs needs to find a way to get these guys to play better when they’re all together. Also needs to get them to shoot more from 3. Not to mention putting better lineups out there that complement each other/staggering correctly.

Defensively, it’s been beaten to death how a switch heavy defense would benefit this team and limit getting killed by the 3 like we do. Also playing zone at times with a double big lineup (KAT n Mitch) would be nice like Houston does. With a lack of wings on the team, try bringing Hart off the bench. Mikal out of position at POA, start Deuce. These things aren’t trivial.

Switching heavy defense doesn’t work with KAT unless you have a DPOY C next to him which we don’t have. And even then, KAT is pretty ass at switching which resulted him in getting benched tons of times in the playoffs for Naz Reid. The rockets have actually benched Sengun a bunch of times as well in the 4th quarter for that same reason (although he’s a much better defender than KAT).

Mikal is only looking good because we’re going against trash teams, not because Brunson is out. Watch him stink it up tonight against the Cavs.

You need to watch tape on KAT from recent seasons because he’s scoring the same way he has when he was Minny. His bag is simple, he just jacks up 3s or does straight line drives into traffic looking for a foul. Been like that for years. That’s not a Thibs problem.
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Post#152 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:11 pm

Gravy wrote:
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Gravy wrote:Shamet turned into Steve Novak all of a sudden. Let's see if he can keep this up in the playoffs or at least tonight against the Cavs. He was definitely terrible and a liability earlier in the season.

Our players look amazing against the worst teams. So people are using that as a way to say Thibs has been holding them back. Yet those very same players disappear against the contenders.

Fans are focusing on the coaches from the other top teams but those teams made a leap when they added key players to the roster and fixed some of their issues.
OKC- Caruso, IHart
Cle- Deandre Hunter, healthier players
Celtics - Jrue + KP

And all those teams have multiple starters who are excellent defenders. We literally have just one (OG).
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Post#154 » by JayTWill » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:58 pm

Gravy wrote:
Guano wrote:See this is the sht that is upsetting and one of the mant things that makes this place horrible. We witnessed a once in a lifetime game last night and instead of talking about it were talking about thibs. Give this man his flowers. He out up stats no knick has ever done before. We witnessed history.

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This is why OG has to average 45 minutes a night, Kolek aint the backup power forward lol


You got tired or waiting for the "unplayable" Kolek to have a trash game at the point guard spot so you moved onto his ability to play PF? :D
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Post#155 » by JayTWill » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:13 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:The issues with our players have been going on since before Thibs has even coached them as I said in another post though. Blaming Thibs for that doesn’t really make much sense.

And again I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes and could get more creative with his offense. But ultimately I care about the wins. I don’t really see anything changing even with the adjustments you want him to do. Those are just very minor adjustments at the end of the day. At the end of the day he got KAT to be an all star starter for the first time… hart and OG are having career seasons. Hes done a lot to get guys to play better.



Sure Tom is good at getting guys to play harder and gives them free reign to go out and get buckets which is why KAT n Jalen got their starting All Star nods, but how does that translate to winning playoff basketball?

It also leaves guys like Mikal just standing in the corner and KAT (despite having an All Star starter year) not being used to his max ability… mainly 3pt shot attempts, types of looks (doesn’t come off screens much), playing in drop coverage, posting up 100 ft out, etc. Jalen n KAT aren’t really a dynamic duo either… I expected more in the way of them playing off one another. Not Joker-Jamal level, but better than this.

I haven’t mentioned anything specifically in this convo adjustments wise yet besides minutes and rotation. The schemes and actions mentioned throughout the year that he hasn’t tried are significant.

Like what I mentioned above about KAT and Mikal plus a lack of p&r with those two. With Brunson out Mikal has looked better with more opportunities to handle the rock. Thibs needs to find a way to get these guys to play better when they’re all together. Also needs to get them to shoot more from 3. Not to mention putting better lineups out there that complement each other/staggering correctly.

Defensively, it’s been beaten to death how a switch heavy defense would benefit this team and limit getting killed by the 3 like we do. Also playing zone at times with a double big lineup (KAT n Mitch) would be nice like Houston does. With a lack of wings on the team, try bringing Hart off the bench. Mikal out of position at POA, start Deuce. These things aren’t trivial.

Switching heavy defense doesn’t work with KAT unless you have a DPOY C next to him which we don’t have. And even then, KAT is pretty ass at switching which resulted him in getting benched tons of times in the playoffs for Naz Reid. The rockets have actually benched Sengun a bunch of times as well in the 4th quarter for that same reason (although he’s a much better defender than KAT).

Mikal is only looking good because we’re going against trash teams, not because Brunson is out. Watch him stink it up tonight against the Cavs.

You need to watch tape on KAT from recent seasons because he’s scoring the same way he has when he was Minny. His bag is simple, he just jacks up 3s or does straight line drives into traffic looking for a foul. Been like that for years. That’s not a Thibs problem.


I agree that the roster construction is flawed but if you want to make changes to the roster how is Thibs helping?

Wearing KAT's knees down playing heavy minutes through pain in an offense where he is constantly forced to use his body to create something out of nothing isn't helping. A broken down KAT in year 1 of a super max is not an appealing trade asset.

The version of Mikal that we are seeing with Brunson out is a much more appealing player for other teams than the version Thibs had standing around for long periods of the game.

If you want to trade the young players for win-now pieces their trade value just depreciates sitting on the bench. Just a few weeks ago Kolek was considered unplayable in the eyes of many while getting DNP's with Brunson out. If he was able to show what he has lately for a longer stretch the New York hype machine would have pumped his value up some. All it took was half a season for someone like Grimes in his rookie year to become a desirable asset.

Thibs is coaching like there is no tomorrow for a team that you want to change tomorrow. He is actively coaching against your interests.
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Post#156 » by FrozenEnvelope » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:16 pm

Afternoon thoughts

If Shammy can hit threes we can play with Boston.

If Mitch stays healthy we WILL beat Cleveland!

What happened to Precious? He looks ill. Can't even make a layup anymore.

Wright was a sneaky good trade! Not a true floor general but I like is defense and he's been hitting his open threes.

OG is a stud! Baby Pippen!

Thibs not tied with the Rat for most wins. Says he's a very good coach and we've also had some awful coaches the last 2 decades.
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Post#157 » by Gravy » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:29 pm

JayTWill wrote:
Gravy wrote:
Guano wrote:See this is the sht that is upsetting and one of the mant things that makes this place horrible. We witnessed a once in a lifetime game last night and instead of talking about it were talking about thibs. Give this man his flowers. He out up stats no knick has ever done before. We witnessed history.

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This is why OG has to average 45 minutes a night, Kolek aint the backup power forward lol


You got tired or waiting for the "unplayable" Kolek to have a trash game at the point guard spot so you moved onto his ability to play PF? :D

Well Thibs could be more creative and try Kolek at pf or center
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Post#158 » by spree8 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:31 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:The issues with our players have been going on since before Thibs has even coached them as I said in another post though. Blaming Thibs for that doesn’t really make much sense.

And again I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes and could get more creative with his offense. But ultimately I care about the wins. I don’t really see anything changing even with the adjustments you want him to do. Those are just very minor adjustments at the end of the day. At the end of the day he got KAT to be an all star starter for the first time… hart and OG are having career seasons. Hes done a lot to get guys to play better.



Sure Tom is good at getting guys to play harder and gives them free reign to go out and get buckets which is why KAT n Jalen got their starting All Star nods, but how does that translate to winning playoff basketball?

It also leaves guys like Mikal just standing in the corner and KAT (despite having an All Star starter year) not being used to his max ability… mainly 3pt shot attempts, types of looks (doesn’t come off screens much), playing in drop coverage, posting up 100 ft out, etc. Jalen n KAT aren’t really a dynamic duo either… I expected more in the way of them playing off one another. Not Joker-Jamal level, but better than this.

I haven’t mentioned anything specifically in this convo adjustments wise yet besides minutes and rotation. The schemes and actions mentioned throughout the year that he hasn’t tried are significant.

Like what I mentioned above about KAT and Mikal plus a lack of p&r with those two. With Brunson out Mikal has looked better with more opportunities to handle the rock. Thibs needs to find a way to get these guys to play better when they’re all together. Also needs to get them to shoot more from 3. Not to mention putting better lineups out there that complement each other/staggering correctly.

Defensively, it’s been beaten to death how a switch heavy defense would benefit this team and limit getting killed by the 3 like we do. Also playing zone at times with a double big lineup (KAT n Mitch) would be nice like Houston does. With a lack of wings on the team, try bringing Hart off the bench. Mikal out of position at POA, start Deuce. These things aren’t trivial.

Switching heavy defense doesn’t work with KAT unless you have a DPOY C next to him which we don’t have. And even then, KAT is pretty ass at switching which resulted him in getting benched tons of times in the playoffs for Naz Reid. The rockets have actually benched Sengun a bunch of times as well in the 4th quarter for that same reason (although he’s a much better defender than KAT).

Mikal is only looking good because we’re going against trash teams, not because Brunson is out. Watch him stink it up tonight against the Cavs.

You need to watch tape on KAT from recent seasons because he’s scoring the same way he has when he was Minny. His bag is simple, he just jacks up 3s or does straight line drives into traffic looking for a foul. Been like that for years. That’s not a Thibs problem.



I dunno man, it seems your hate for KAT n Mikal is too strong to overcome lol.

I don’t get why you would tell me to watch more tape on KAT to see something that just isn’t true?

His 3pt attempts are the lowest they’ve been in his career… they’re at the bottom along with the other years he’s played under Thibs.

His frequency of shots off screens are also less than half of what they’ve been in Minny years prior. The guy has been between 75th-90th percentile off screens. I’m not saying it should be as much as Markkanen, but a lot more than he is.

We’ve kinda gone as far as we can with the Towns switch defense because nobody is budging. The footage has been posted often. I’ve also mentioned a few times the cases you pointed to where guys like Tatum got the better of him and it was because he was either in drop or out of position fighting thru screens and had to recover at a disadvantage. I also broke down the very play Finch benched him for in the video Gravy posted the other day, showing how it was really on Rudy not KAT. We’ve seen him handle his own against wings and pg’s on the perimeter this season enough to know he can do it.

Every defender gets beat on occasion, but I’d rather live with that than watch him in drop getting 3’s hit on him because he’s 5ft from the shooter.

The whole team only looks good against trash-average teams. We can’t beat elite teams and everyone looks bad in those 30+ point losses, so what’s that really prove about Mikal?
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Post#159 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Apr 2, 2025 8:18 pm

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prophet_of_rage wrote:Two of those four play poor defence. One of those four plays slow while the other 3 play fast. All four want/need 15+ shots.

It's the mentality that is a problem. Bridges doesn't really love being a third option. Neither does OG.

The names sound good but there are holes in the seams.

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What? The holes are in the coaching. Insinuating that Bridges/OG play poorly because of mentality is ridiculous. Maybe if the HC would get EVERYONE involved on offense we wouldn't be getting blown out all of the time. Maybe if he utilized the talent he has on the bench, players wouldn't be burned out or dealing with nagging overuse injuries by the time January rolls around. We should have been playing Brunson off ball a lot sooner than waiting for him to be out with an injury. Thibs doesn't try anything other than ISO Brunson running the show. Everyone else standing in the corner waiting to see what happens next. That's not an offensive system. It's not the best use of your roster at all. We are seeing the proof unfold in real time

. Let other guys handle the ball where they are comfortable. Players like Shamet are best getting the ball in motion for catch and shoot. Thibs usually has him standing in a corner. OG has to defend the entire team and then he gets to stand in the corner on offense. Mikal has to chase guys around fighting through screens on defense for 40 minutes a night and he gets to stand in the corner on offense. KAT should be shooting way more threes. He is driving from the perimeter and getting hacked and whacked all the way to the basket with no calls. Brunson is fighting longer defenders full court to get the ball over the line. We don't even set back screens for him! Just leave him on an island.

There is no design to our offense. Let the game tell you what to do? No. Impose your will. Make the opponent play your game. Make them expend energy on defense so they have tired legs on offense. You know, like every other team does to us because they already know we will be tired from playing too many minutes as it is.

The crazy excuses for why we suddenly see better play after 60+ games due to injuries really tells the whole story. Thibs has zero business running an offense. His antiquated defense only works with the a top rim protector in the league. Without that he has no answers for anything. His positives as a HC are minimal.



Holy crap reading this makes me think this team is 27-48 not 48-27..my god this is infuriating to read all this negativity. This team has it’s flaws, but winning over 50 plus games with a brand new team and some of you are just flat out miserable. Thibs is doing a fantastic job this season, taking a brand new roster, losing brunson for 13 games, no mitch for basically 50 plus, seeing OG take his game to another level, hart having a career season. This comes off as someone who clearly has an anti Thibs agenda


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Post#160 » by knicks94 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 4:22 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
snadler wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
What? The holes are in the coaching. Insinuating that Bridges/OG play poorly because of mentality is ridiculous. Maybe if the HC would get EVERYONE involved on offense we wouldn't be getting blown out all of the time. Maybe if he utilized the talent he has on the bench, players wouldn't be burned out or dealing with nagging overuse injuries by the time January rolls around. We should have been playing Brunson off ball a lot sooner than waiting for him to be out with an injury. Thibs doesn't try anything other than ISO Brunson running the show. Everyone else standing in the corner waiting to see what happens next. That's not an offensive system. It's not the best use of your roster at all. We are seeing the proof unfold in real time

. Let other guys handle the ball where they are comfortable. Players like Shamet are best getting the ball in motion for catch and shoot. Thibs usually has him standing in a corner. OG has to defend the entire team and then he gets to stand in the corner on offense. Mikal has to chase guys around fighting through screens on defense for 40 minutes a night and he gets to stand in the corner on offense. KAT should be shooting way more threes. He is driving from the perimeter and getting hacked and whacked all the way to the basket with no calls. Brunson is fighting longer defenders full court to get the ball over the line. We don't even set back screens for him! Just leave him on an island.

There is no design to our offense. Let the game tell you what to do? No. Impose your will. Make the opponent play your game. Make them expend energy on defense so they have tired legs on offense. You know, like every other team does to us because they already know we will be tired from playing too many minutes as it is.

The crazy excuses for why we suddenly see better play after 60+ games due to injuries really tells the whole story. Thibs has zero business running an offense. His antiquated defense only works with the a top rim protector in the league. Without that he has no answers for anything. His positives as a HC are minimal.



Holy crap reading this makes me think this team is 27-48 not 48-27..my god this is infuriating to read all this negativity. This team has it’s flaws, but winning over 50 plus games with a brand new team and some of you are just flat out miserable. Thibs is doing a fantastic job this season, taking a brand new roster, losing brunson for 13 games, no mitch for basically 50 plus, seeing OG take his game to another level, hart having a career season. This comes off as someone who clearly has an anti Thibs agenda


No.

We're not getting on Thibs because we believe he is a complete bum who is incapable of winning 50 games and coaching a team to the 2nd round. We're getting on Thibs because his system is outdated, he overplays his sarters and is constantly getting outcoached by the top coaches in the league. Those type of flaws do not translate into championship.

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