BowlRips wrote:What can we get for Hart straight up?
Can we get an expiring and a 1st round pick or two?
He's more valuable to us than anyone else. So, no.
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BowlRips wrote:What can we get for Hart straight up?
Can we get an expiring and a 1st round pick or two?
R-DAWG wrote:spree8 wrote:HopelessKnick wrote:I think Minnesota if they push for Durant would want him next to Gobert.
If the Knicks were to deal KAT to Phoenix they would much rather get Durant back then Gobert and DD.
I could see the argument for wanting KD over Gobert, Donte and 2-3 1st’s, but the latter also puts us 5m below the first apron… now we can spend the tax MLE, be part of a sign n trade, and have less financial restrictions on trades. Could add more depth or upgrade a starter or key bench player using a combo of these things.
Personally I would prefer a different route altogether, but I was just responding to strictly a PHX-MIN-NYK deal.
Pheonix’s trade eligible picks are the 29th pick in this years draft and the lessor of Utah/Min/Cle 2029. The 27 1st they own isn’t trade eligible since they owe a 26 1st to Charlotte in the Nurkic salary dump.
I can see the motivation for doing the KAT/Durant swap. The Rudy/DDV swap doesn’t make the team better.
spree8 wrote:R-DAWG wrote:spree8 wrote:
I could see the argument for wanting KD over Gobert, Donte and 2-3 1st’s, but the latter also puts us 5m below the first apron… now we can spend the tax MLE, be part of a sign n trade, and have less financial restrictions on trades. Could add more depth or upgrade a starter or key bench player using a combo of these things.
Personally I would prefer a different route altogether, but I was just responding to strictly a PHX-MIN-NYK deal.
Pheonix’s trade eligible picks are the 29th pick in this years draft and the lessor of Utah/Min/Cle 2029. The 27 1st they own isn’t trade eligible since they owe a 26 1st to Charlotte in the Nurkic salary dump.
I can see the motivation for doing the KAT/Durant swap. The Rudy/DDV swap doesn’t make the team better.
U sure bout that? Cuz it says on realgm draft picks owned/owed, that they only gave up the right to swap their 2026 1st… so they’ll still own one. They gave up their 2027 1st entirely, but got one back which is the same as 2029… least favorable of those same 3 teams.
Also, I think Rudy & Donte plus three 1st’s while getting under the 1st apron makes us better defensively, deeper, and more flexible. KD is a nice name but he’s 37 and clearly declining. As a 3rd option tho, like if we got Giannis too, then yea def, but as a 2nd option? Na..
If I had a choice between the two, I’m taking the Rudy/Donte/Picks/Depth/Flexibility over KD
WargamesX wrote:sol537 wrote:I don't mind:
KAT to PHX
KD to MIN
NAZ (resigned) + DDV + Shannon Jr. + 1st rounder from PHX + 1st round swap from PHX to NYK
Increases our depth and restocks our trade assets a bit.
Mitch, OG, Bridges, DDV, Brunson with Naz, Deuce, Hart, etc. off the bench is pretty nasty.
I would want at least one or two more draft picks, but I see the logic for everyone involved.
8516knicks wrote:BowlRips wrote:What can we get for Hart straight up?
Can we get an expiring and a 1st round pick or two?
He's more valuable to us than anyone else. So, no.
JayTWill wrote:I'm just trying to imagine a world where the front office basically admits they screwed up and makes another major change to the roster after 1 year. Unless it was their plan from the beginning it's hard for me to see it happening. If they do decide to make a big change I hope it's not to just go chasing after another "star". I hope they learned a little something about team building after seeing the Pacers and OKC reach the finals.
8516knicks wrote:WargamesX wrote:sol537 wrote:I don't mind:
KAT to PHX
KD to MIN
NAZ (resigned) + DDV + Shannon Jr. + 1st rounder from PHX + 1st round swap from PHX to NYK
Increases our depth and restocks our trade assets a bit.
Mitch, OG, Bridges, DDV, Brunson with Naz, Deuce, Hart, etc. off the bench is pretty nasty.
I would want at least one or two more draft picks, but I see the logic for everyone involved.
If I'm Phoenix, I'm not excited about this. Why give up a draft pick and a swap also in addition to KAT's swollen contract? And if I'm MN, that still leaves me with a JR problem (fit & contract extension).
R-DAWG wrote:spree8 wrote:R-DAWG wrote:
Pheonix’s trade eligible picks are the 29th pick in this years draft and the lessor of Utah/Min/Cle 2029. The 27 1st they own isn’t trade eligible since they owe a 26 1st to Charlotte in the Nurkic salary dump.
I can see the motivation for doing the KAT/Durant swap. The Rudy/DDV swap doesn’t make the team better.
U sure bout that? Cuz it says on realgm draft picks owned/owed, that they only gave up the right to swap their 2026 1st… so they’ll still own one. They gave up their 2027 1st entirely, but got one back which is the same as 2029… least favorable of those same 3 teams.
Also, I think Rudy & Donte plus three 1st’s while getting under the 1st apron makes us better defensively, deeper, and more flexible. KD is a nice name but he’s 37 and clearly declining. As a 3rd option tho, like if we got Giannis too, then yea def, but as a 2nd option? Na..
If I had a choice between the two, I’m taking the Rudy/Donte/Picks/Depth/Flexibility over KD
26 1st went to Charlotte when they salary dumped Nurkic.
BowlRips wrote:8516knicks wrote:BowlRips wrote:What can we get for Hart straight up?
Can we get an expiring and a 1st round pick or two?
He's more valuable to us than anyone else. So, no.
Is he?
If you have any plans to get a true SG on this roster, theres nees to be some outgoing salary.
Knicks need to embrace 5 out..
He can be replaced with Bruce Brown who will take the TPMLE...
sol537 wrote:I don't mind:
KAT to PHX
KD to MIN
NAZ (resigned) + DDV + Shannon Jr. + 1st rounder from PHX + 1st round swap from PHX to NYK
Increases our depth and restocks our trade assets a bit.
Mitch, OG, Bridges, DDV, Brunson with Naz, Deuce, Hart, etc. off the bench is pretty nasty.
BowlRips wrote:8516knicks wrote:WargamesX wrote:
I would want at least one or two more draft picks, but I see the logic for everyone involved.
If I'm Phoenix, I'm not excited about this. Why give up a draft pick and a swap also in addition to KAT's swollen contract? And if I'm MN, that still leaves me with a JR problem (fit & contract extension).
LOL what?
If Phx could get KAT for KD that trade would be done! KAT is by far the best single player the Suns could get for KD today. I do not see Ishbia leaning into a rebuild. KAT's age and relationship with Book would be seen as big factors.
sol537 wrote:I don't mind:
KAT to PHX
KD to MIN
NAZ (resigned) + DDV + Shannon Jr. + 1st rounder from PHX + 1st round swap from PHX to NYK
Increases our depth and restocks our trade assets a bit.
Mitch, OG, Bridges, DDV, Brunson with Naz, Deuce, Hart, etc. off the bench is pretty nasty.
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:The Mikal Bridges trade
Knicks receive: Daniel Gafford, Caleb Martin
Mavericks receive: Mikal Bridges
If the Knicks don’t want to move Towns or don’t find a palatable deal, this might be the direction they go.
For whatever reason, Bridges just never quite fit in with the Knicks this season and it was notable that he, a non-CAA client, was the only Knick to speak up about Thibodeau’s minutes allocation. This trade makes the Mavericks more balanced and helps solve their perimeter defense, which has been an issue since parting with Dorian Finney-Smith and Derrick Jones Jr.
After winning the Cooper Flagg lottery, the Mavs suddenly have a logjam in their frontcourt and a glaring need at Bridges’ position. The Mavericks can say all they want that the 6-foot-8 Flagg can work at the small forward slot next to Anthony Davis and one of Dereck Lively II or Daniel Gafford. But what they really need is a point-of-attack defender who isn’t a teenaged Flagg or 35-year-old Klay Thompson. And that means trading away one of their many bigs.
Gafford is a monster around the paint and would be an upgrade over Robinson, and far more reliable from an injury standpoint. While Robinson provides a lob threat for Knicks guards, he’s not the same caliber of a vertical spacer as Gafford, who averaged 20.6 points per 36 minutes last season compared to Robinson’s 10.8 figure.
In Martin, the Knicks receive a more physical player than Bridges on the perimeter, but he comes at the cost of more frequent unavailability. Bridges has never missed a game in his career while Martin has missed about 20 games a season since he became a full-time player in 2021-22. With Kyrie Irving off the books next summer, the Mavericks could fill that salary slot with Bridges’ extension (up to four years and $156 million).
We’ll pour another one out for the Nova Knicks.
Tom Haberstroh - Yahoo Sports
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:The Mikal Bridges trade
Knicks receive: Daniel Gafford, Caleb Martin
Mavericks receive: Mikal Bridges
If the Knicks don’t want to move Towns or don’t find a palatable deal, this might be the direction they go.
For whatever reason, Bridges just never quite fit in with the Knicks this season and it was notable that he, a non-CAA client, was the only Knick to speak up about Thibodeau’s minutes allocation. This trade makes the Mavericks more balanced and helps solve their perimeter defense, which has been an issue since parting with Dorian Finney-Smith and Derrick Jones Jr.
After winning the Cooper Flagg lottery, the Mavs suddenly have a logjam in their frontcourt and a glaring need at Bridges’ position. The Mavericks can say all they want that the 6-foot-8 Flagg can work at the small forward slot next to Anthony Davis and one of Dereck Lively II or Daniel Gafford. But what they really need is a point-of-attack defender who isn’t a teenaged Flagg or 35-year-old Klay Thompson. And that means trading away one of their many bigs.
Gafford is a monster around the paint and would be an upgrade over Robinson, and far more reliable from an injury standpoint. While Robinson provides a lob threat for Knicks guards, he’s not the same caliber of a vertical spacer as Gafford, who averaged 20.6 points per 36 minutes last season compared to Robinson’s 10.8 figure.
In Martin, the Knicks receive a more physical player than Bridges on the perimeter, but he comes at the cost of more frequent unavailability. Bridges has never missed a game in his career while Martin has missed about 20 games a season since he became a full-time player in 2021-22. With Kyrie Irving off the books next summer, the Mavericks could fill that salary slot with Bridges’ extension (up to four years and $156 million).
We’ll pour another one out for the Nova Knicks.
Tom Haberstroh - Yahoo Sports
MrDollarBills wrote:Any interest in Saddiq Bey?
We need an actual wing with some size and he makes 6.1m. Career 35% from 3