Thibs needs to go

[The KnicksFix]

you are a lost cause my guy. and you still dont know the difference between speculation and actually reporting. if shams and all those guys dont have insight KFTV sure as heck doesnt have insight.

i dont need to "counter" your list of coaches, because its pointless to debate with you. i also think its pretty funny how you type about your guy CP right now. when you call in you all over his nuts.

and i certainly dont need to defend my fandom, im a fan since around 99/00 because im a young guy you know. of course i havent lived through the 90s knicks like older people have. And now? whats your point? i have literally seen almost every game, especially the big ones since then and i also watched many many games back from the 94 run, etc. i probably been in the garden more often than you aswell.

Hahahahah now you’re talking about my nuts? Bro at least take me out to dinner with the way that you’re talking. I know you like my posts but you can’t just start talking about my nuts man, it’s not a good look for you…. Anyway you being around 25 years old proves my point that this is the first successful team you’ve watched. Although Thibs has been the first successful coach you’ve watched, it doesn’t make him a world beater. That makes him better than the rest of the pile of garbage we have had to coach us. If you understood what a continued run of success was during the early 90s and early 00s, you’d see that top tier coaching helped us to get there too from Riley to SVG. Before Thibs we didn’t have a good coach, but it’s not as though you can’t get better than him. That’s my point.

It’s like if you accept a girl who treats you like hot garbage, but you still accept her because the last one cheated on you. From the way you type it sounds as though you’re the kinda guy that would accept that behavior, hence you accept thibs.

I highly doubt you’ve been in the garden more than than me, not to flex but I’m a highly successful doctor in NY and have sat multiple games courtside in the delta lounge this season. You on the other hand live in Germany…. Like I said stop it and get help while you still can.

Furthermore it seems as though you actually listen to KFTV so you would see that I actually go toe to toe with him. And in my last call argued that we do not run offensive sets including floppy, horns, double drag screen or Spain pick and roll. Instead it’s iso brunson. If you actually listened to the call you would see that I’m not buying the narrative that it’s all on the players, and I go toe to toe with CP, it’s usually Alex and CK who agree with me. Whether or not I’d like to admit it, CP is wayyyyyy more plugged in with the Knicks than any of those reporters you listed from Shams, to Windy. They’re represented by the CAA mafia, numb nuts. Are you that oblivious or are these forums your only source??

Anyway it’s useless arguing with a guy over the internet who lives in Germany (not NY), wasn’t around to see what continued success was in the 90s, and would rather talk about my nuts than saying Thibs ain’t the coach to lead us to a chip. I showed you a video of his lack of coaching did you watch it? Or do you beee it translated to German?

you really want me to believe that you are a doctor or an actual adult? the way you acting?

all you do is get personal and apparently your reading comprehension is lacking aswell. do you really think one video proves anything? and you still havent even understood the point. in my initial post i said i agree with a lot of the criticism. so what is your little video going to achieve?

you are defensive because i checked you on your statements, that thibs is coaching his final game. you look like a fool.

Listen kid, PM me, otherwise, stop responding to me
You’re like 5 years old in Knick years, you haven’t really been a fan that long, so I’m going back and forth with a complete child really
In the end, no one wants to see this back and forth
So PM me, I’m sure mods can see me actively trying to get this off the forum and into the private messages, because now you’ve elevated to calling me a fool and riding KFTV’s nuts

You’re German right? So be a man with your little frankfurter, and PM me

[NoStatsGuy]

Hahahahah now you’re talking about my nuts? Bro at least take me out to dinner with the way that you’re talking. I know you like my posts but you can’t just start talking about my nuts man, it’s not a good look for you…. Anyway you being around 25 years old proves my point that this is the first successful team you’ve watched. Although Thibs has been the first successful coach you’ve watched, it doesn’t make him a world beater. That makes him better than the rest of the pile of garbage we have had to coach us. If you understood what a continued run of success was during the early 90s and early 00s, you’d see that top tier coaching helped us to get there too from Riley to SVG. Before Thibs we didn’t have a good coach, but it’s not as though you can’t get better than him. That’s my point.

It’s like if you accept a girl who treats you like hot garbage, but you still accept her because the last one cheated on you. From the way you type it sounds as though you’re the kinda guy that would accept that behavior, hence you accept thibs.

I highly doubt you’ve been in the garden more than than me, not to flex but I’m a highly successful doctor in NY and have sat multiple games courtside in the delta lounge this season. You on the other hand live in Germany…. Like I said stop it and get help while you still can.

Furthermore it seems as though you actually listen to KFTV so you would see that I actually go toe to toe with him. And in my last call argued that we do not run offensive sets including floppy, horns, double drag screen or Spain pick and roll. Instead it’s iso brunson. If you actually listened to the call you would see that I’m not buying the narrative that it’s all on the players, and I go toe to toe with CP, it’s usually Alex and CK who agree with me. Whether or not I’d like to admit it, CP is wayyyyyy more plugged in with the Knicks than any of those reporters you listed from Shams, to Windy. They’re represented by the CAA mafia, numb nuts. Are you that oblivious or are these forums your only source??

Anyway it’s useless arguing with a guy over the internet who lives in Germany (not NY), wasn’t around to see what continued success was in the 90s, and would rather talk about my nuts than saying Thibs ain’t the coach to lead us to a chip. I showed you a video of his lack of coaching did you watch it? Or do you beee it translated to German?

you really want me to believe that you are a doctor or an actual adult? the way you acting?

all you do is get personal and apparently your reading comprehension is lacking aswell. do you really think one video proves anything? and you still havent even understood the point. in my initial post i said i agree with a lot of the criticism. so what is your little video going to achieve?

you are defensive because i checked you on your statements, that thibs is coaching his final game. you look like a fool.

Listen kid, PM me, otherwise, stop responding to me
You’re like 5 years old in Knick years, you haven’t really been a fan that long, so I’m going back and forth with a complete child really
In the end, no one wants to see this back and forth
So PM me, I’m sure mods can see me actively trying to get this off the forum and into the private messages, because now you’ve elevated to calling me a fool and riding KFTV’s nuts

You’re German right? So be a man with your little frankfurter, and PM me

im good thanks

[KnixinSix]

Notable interview from the guy that gets a lot of stuff fed to him by the Knicks front office on Thibs

Read on Twitter

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Not exactly a ringing endorsement .....Fanchise may have been onto something ....

[TheGreenArrow]

Notable interview from the guy that gets a lot of stuff fed to him by the Knicks front office on Thibs

Read on Twitter

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Read on Twitter

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This makes a lot more sense now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think thibs maybe gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Capn'O]

If we're moving on from Thibs we need to make a hell of a hire.

[TheGreenArrow]

Read on Twitter

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[KnixinSix]

Fanchise said it wasnt speculation and Thibs is very much on thin ice. Lets see if that in fact is the case.

This has a real chance of happening. Begley normally gives a strong vote if confidence to Thibs.

Johnnie Bryant on short list?

Will the HC hired have strong connections to any certain guys either currently on team or guys that may want to come here?

Very interesting indeed.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I'm kind of thinking about the best coaches and how they bounce back, and the one who comes to mind is Popovich. Devastating loss to Miami in the finals, reinvents his team using the Summertime strategy, the precursor to what the Warriors did.

It took a lot to do what Pop did. He had to 1) rebuild his team emotionally, and then 2) adjust his tactics drastically

I don't see Thibs being able to do either 1 or 2. I don't think he can do what Pops did in terms of leading. I don't see his tactics changing much either, and I think that's really required if we want to win with KAT. Obviously, this is Pop and that's a championship level, Hall of Fame GOAT-level coach. Worse coaches than Pop have won.

However, I'd say that what Thibs is facing is an effort on that level. We've had multiple team meetings (showing the team is not on sync), we've had a postseason with inconsistent effort, we've had devastating losses on a historic sale, now locker room shat leaking, and a flawed team that just got wrecked offensively and defensively. We had Tyrese Haliburton taunting us the whole series...and it was like they just ate it. On a tactical and locker-room level, this team needs to rebuilt. Even if we argue that we're facing is 60% of what the Spurs faced...I'm not confident in Thibs being the guy.

These guys let Haliburton bitch them out.

There was a lack of pride and effort in that 3Q that goes beyond coaching.

yeah. you can think thibs is not doing a good job AND recognize what the players did or didn't do. these are never zero sum discussions.

[Jay10]

If we're moving on from Thibs we need to make a hell of a hire.

It's going to be WWW's guy Johnnie Bryant if his Cavs' colleague(Jordan Ott) doesn't get the Suns' head coach job.

"Johnnie Bryant, Jordan Ott Emerge As Two Finalists For Suns' Head Coaching Job" - RealGM

[KnixinSix]

If we're moving on from Thibs we need to make a hell of a hire.

It's going to be WWW's guy Johnnie Bryant if his Cavs' colleague(Jordan Ott) doesn't get the Suns' head coach job.

"Johnnie Bryant, Jordan Ott Emerge As Two Finalists For Suns' Head Coaching Job" - RealGM

If Suns offer him job we may have already backchanneled our interest

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280619/Johnnie-Bryant-Jordan-Ott-Emerge-As-Two-Finalists-For-Suns-Head-Coaching-Job

[GONYK]

If we're moving on from Thibs we need to make a hell of a hire.

Belicheck might be available

[Capn'O]

I could get behind Bryant.

[KnixinSix]

If they switch out Thibs....KAT and/or Bridges staying go up a decent amount. Not 100% certainty but more than if Thibs stayed.

[Fury]

Unless it’s a slam dunk coaching hire, I wouldn’t fire Thibs.

[Capn'O]

If we're moving on from Thibs we need to make a hell of a hire.

Belicheck might be available

Hear me out, I think he could devise some great defensive strategies for basketball.

Spoiler:

[nyknicks09]

I'm still trusting that Rose will be aggressive trying to improve our weaknesses. If he brings Thibs back I will assume they agreed on a lot of changes for next year, using a deeper rotation, new offensive sets, ways to hold everyone accountable on defense, etc. But I do think the simpler answer will be a new coach rather than forcing an old dog to do new tricks.

There’s no way Thibs comes back after how he ignored the bench players throughout the season to have them ready for the playoffs. A lot of our starters were running on fumes and his stubbornness and adjusting to a 8-10 players rotation caused him to win the ECF. Even at the start of the Detroit series, he was pushing a 6-7 man rotation. He needs to go.

[Jay10]

I'm still trusting that Rose will be aggressive trying to improve our weaknesses. If he brings Thibs back I will assume they agreed on a lot of changes for next year, using a deeper rotation, new offensive sets, ways to hold everyone accountable on defense, etc. But I do think the simpler answer will be a new coach rather than forcing an old dog to do new tricks.

There’s no way Thibs comes back after how he ignored the bench players throughout the season to have them ready for the playoffs. A lot of our starters were running on fumes and his stubbornness and adjusting to a 8-10 players rotation caused him to win the ECF. Even at the start of the Detroit series, he was pushing a 6-7 man rotation. He needs to go.

Someone in the front office definitely told him to extend the bench to more guys, and then we suddenly see Shamet and Wright get minutes.

This was the nail in the coffin if he's fired.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Hahahahah now you’re talking about my nuts? Bro at least take me out to dinner with the way that you’re talking. I know you like my posts but you can’t just start talking about my nuts man, it’s not a good look for you…. Anyway you being around 25 years old proves my point that this is the first successful team you’ve watched. Although Thibs has been the first successful coach you’ve watched, it doesn’t make him a world beater. That makes him better than the rest of the pile of garbage we have had to coach us. If you understood what a continued run of success was during the early 90s and early 00s, you’d see that top tier coaching helped us to get there too from Riley to SVG. Before Thibs we didn’t have a good coach, but it’s not as though you can’t get better than him. That’s my point.

It’s like if you accept a girl who treats you like hot garbage, but you still accept her because the last one cheated on you. From the way you type it sounds as though you’re the kinda guy that would accept that behavior, hence you accept thibs.

I highly doubt you’ve been in the garden more than than me, not to flex but I’m a highly successful doctor in NY and have sat multiple games courtside in the delta lounge this season. You on the other hand live in Germany…. Like I said stop it and get help while you still can.

Furthermore it seems as though you actually listen to KFTV so you would see that I actually go toe to toe with him. And in my last call argued that we do not run offensive sets including floppy, horns, double drag screen or Spain pick and roll. Instead it’s iso brunson. If you actually listened to the call you would see that I’m not buying the narrative that it’s all on the players, and I go toe to toe with CP, it’s usually Alex and CK who agree with me. Whether or not I’d like to admit it, CP is wayyyyyy more plugged in with the Knicks than any of those reporters you listed from Shams, to Windy. They’re represented by the CAA mafia, numb nuts. Are you that oblivious or are these forums your only source??

Anyway it’s useless arguing with a guy over the internet who lives in Germany (not NY), wasn’t around to see what continued success was in the 90s, and would rather talk about my nuts than saying Thibs ain’t the coach to lead us to a chip. I showed you a video of his lack of coaching did you watch it? Or do you beee it translated to German?

you really want me to believe that you are a doctor or an actual adult? the way you acting?

all you do is get personal and apparently your reading comprehension is lacking aswell. do you really think one video proves anything? and you still havent even understood the point. in my initial post i said i agree with a lot of the criticism. so what is your little video going to achieve?

you are defensive because i checked you on your statements, that thibs is coaching his final game. you look like a fool.

Listen kid, PM me, otherwise, stop responding to me
You’re like 5 years old in Knick years, you haven’t really been a fan that long, so I’m going back and forth with a complete child really
In the end, no one wants to see this back and forth
So PM me, I’m sure mods can see me actively trying to get this off the forum and into the private messages, because now you’ve elevated to calling me a fool and riding KFTV’s nuts

You’re German right? So be a man with your little frankfurter, and PM me

i actually see two people lobbing ad hominem attacks on each other over god knows what. it needs to stop or head to hamsterdam. stay out of each other's PMs.

[sol537]

Throw a 5-6 year deal at Dan Hurley (I believe he has an out clause at CT)... hand him the keys and let him have a voice in optimizing the roster.

That dude is the future we need.

[Capn'O]

I'm still trusting that Rose will be aggressive trying to improve our weaknesses. If he brings Thibs back I will assume they agreed on a lot of changes for next year, using a deeper rotation, new offensive sets, ways to hold everyone accountable on defense, etc. But I do think the simpler answer will be a new coach rather than forcing an old dog to do new tricks.

There’s no way Thibs comes back after how he ignored the bench players throughout the season to have them ready for the playoffs. A lot of our starters were running on fumes and his stubbornness and adjusting to a 8-10 players rotation caused him to win the ECF. Even at the start of the Detroit series, he was pushing a 6-7 man rotation. He needs to go.

Someone in the front office definitely told him to extend the bench to more guys, and then we suddenly see Shamet and Wright get minutes.

This was the nail in the coffin if he's fired.

If he was instructed to play those guys that's worst case for him because the strategy worked.