ImageImageImageImageImage

Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread

Moderators: HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36, j4remi

User avatar
Im Coming Home
RealGM
Posts: 27,407
And1: 20,066
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
Location: The Island
       

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1601 » by Im Coming Home » Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:10 am

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Is Kerr kinda washed up now a days or is it just the Warriors roster being old


I think Ian was trolling a bit with that one but I'll bite because I'm not a big Kerr guy on multiple fronts

Kerr has basically never shown he can win without Steph. Nor has he shown a consistent ability to ever develop anybody. Almost all of Golden States first round picks have flipped or disappointed in the Kerr era.

He was a disaster in the FIBA world cup where they didn't medal with one of the most talented squads in the tournament and the US struggled in the Olympics but ultimately took the golf against France because Steph went nuclear. Take it for what it's worth.

He runs a very motion/modern triangle based system. Almost no pick and roll. It's very unique and tailored specifically to Steph's abilities.

When it's working well it looks great because it's an extremely fluid read and react brand of basketball. But it's a very hard system for players to adapt to because it takes a ton of off ball movement, IQ and screen setting to fit in. It's why he's had such struggles generating offense when Steph is off the floor in recent years.

It would be interesting experiment to see how this roster would be able to transition into a Kerr type offense. I could see him really unlocking a guy like Hart (a guy he played a ton in FIBA FWIW) for example but the lack of pick and roll and iso ball may be a really tough adjustment for Jalen (A guy who struggled at FIBA under Kerr)

Good insight.

I think KAT could thrive under Kerr as a passing big.

But yeah doubt he actually is gonna be allowed to come here anyways. I would worry about our defense under him. Brunson would be fine I think as he doesn't really rely on PnR too often just uses them to get a different defender on him
BAT/BAF - OG Build a Team Player

BAT 2.0 - Bobcats - 2010
BAT 3.0 - Wizards - 2010

BAT 4.0 - Wizards - 2010
BAT 7.0 Nuggets - 2012

BAF Rockets 2024-2025
matchman
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 12,745
And1: 3,276
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Location: Hong Kong
 

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1602 » by matchman » Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:47 am

matchman wrote:Does it take 30 pages of this thread to reveal our next coach? More or less?

80 pages now :o :lol:
Are you fans of the team or the player?
The KnicksFix
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,666
And1: 4,547
Joined: Oct 28, 2011
       

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1603 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:49 am

matchman wrote:
matchman wrote:Does it take 30 pages of this thread to reveal our next coach? More or less?

80 pages now :o :lol:


Oh this is going to be multiple different topics, locked and then new thread opened. I see this going until July
Adelheid
RealGM
Posts: 11,637
And1: 7,871
Joined: Jul 10, 2014
 

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1604 » by Adelheid » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:29 am

maybe on the third thread, thats when the knicks sign the next coach
User avatar
Besart19
RealGM
Posts: 13,728
And1: 5,017
Joined: Feb 12, 2012
Location: Dibra, Albania
   

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1605 » by Besart19 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:47 am

This team would thrive under Carlisle

Mitch (Chandler)
KAT (Nowitski)
Hart (Marion)
Anunoby (Stevenson)
Bridges (Butler)
McBride (Terry)
Shamet (Peja)
Brunson (Kidd)
Hukporti (Mahinmi)
Dadiet (C.Brewer)
Payne (Barrea)
Wright (Beaubois)
Strength and Honour!
User avatar
SpreeNYK
Ballboy
Posts: 20
And1: 20
Joined: May 19, 2024
Location: Germany
 

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1606 » by SpreeNYK » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:33 am

Dolan is a clown!!! 4 rejects now, 25 Teams left. :lol: :banghead:

[x]
Read on Twitter
[/x]


I've said it many times, firing Thibs is a big mistake!
In the end we get Monty Williams... :lol:
One Team - One New York
The real Knicks wear orange & blue.
I still believe, take me to the Garden!
Knicks Fan since 1994 and damn proud of it.
NiceLikeChrist
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,724
And1: 1,692
Joined: Mar 16, 2012
 

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1607 » by NiceLikeChrist » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:37 am

The only reason this is being looked at with a negative lens is because it looks like our plan was to try and poach a coach currently under contract and we are being denied interviews.

If we fired thibs and hired Bryant next week most of us would be on board and we and the media would've moved on to roster speculation. But now we're sitting here hearing Mike Brown and bum coaches who we should never allow near our roster and we look like clowns.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
User avatar
aq_ua
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 21,593
And1: 7,660
Joined: May 08, 2002
Location: Optimistic but realistic

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1608 » by aq_ua » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:49 am

knickstape4ever wrote:I actually wouldn't mind Mike Brown as HC. he'd get the most out of Brunson/KAT offensively, which even tho they were great, there's still another level they can reach, especially utilizing KAT more in PnR/PnP situations

maybe they can lure Frank Vogel in as the lead assistant...get best of both worlds w/ his ability to coach defense

Vogel just might be my top remaining and realistic choice. He’s got championship pedigree and a system that worked with a jump shooting big man and an iso heavy ball handler, while getting touches for the rest of the team and developing a deep bench. He also seems to listen to his assistant coaches. I thought he got a bad hand with injuries to the Lakers after the bubble season, and then a dysfunctional Suns roster (that still did much better than when Bud took over).
User avatar
Kampuchea
RealGM
Posts: 11,219
And1: 9,120
Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Location: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw
       

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1609 » by Kampuchea » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:40 am

When do the Knicks reach out to Pacers for permission to interview Carlisle?

The top 2 I’d look at are still out there, Bryant and Budenholzer.

Here at current odds that go against reports of Bryant not being a top choice.

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=ZScbCOS-e1RwvSq7ABkKLQ
Image
User avatar
god shammgod
RealGM
Posts: 137,409
And1: 135,292
Joined: Feb 18, 2006

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1610 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:43 am

ctorres wrote:
Read on Twitter


Kidd I understand because of his pre-existing relationship with Brunson and the Knicks

Some of these other choices seem pretty out of left field though, especially Snyder and Donovan


so sham was right. these are the knicks top choices. it's not a smoke screen or misdirection or whatever. that's all i wanted you guys to admit. jesus.
User avatar
god shammgod
RealGM
Posts: 137,409
And1: 135,292
Joined: Feb 18, 2006

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1611 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:58 am

As noted last week, the timing of the Thibodeau firing was not tied in any way to the Suns' decision on Johnnie Bryant, a former Knicks associate head coach. Bryant was a finalist for the Suns' job, though they ended up hiring former Cleveland assistant Jordan Ott. I don’t believe that Bryant – at the moment – is at the top of the Knicks’ list of candidates – if such a list exists. This is not a reflection of Bryant, but more so the idea that the Knicks prefer a coach with experience.


https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2025/6/11/24447202/report-knicks-definitely-interested-in-kevin-durant-trade
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 80,376
And1: 93,439
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1612 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:17 am

DaGawd wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:Does anyone know why Taylor Jenkins was let go? He seemed to be doing a good job in Memphis.

ja allegedly hated that he took the ball out of his hands. and memphis fans say his offensive sets were ass and the assistant now head coach was the brains behind their offense


I personally can't wait for the Knicks to hire White Fizdale.
Image
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 80,376
And1: 93,439
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1613 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:21 am

Should just migrate the forum to twitter at this point, since all the posting is posting twitter stuff and then shrieking over it like gibbons, which is also the Twitter way.
Image
User avatar
gavran
RealGM
Posts: 18,080
And1: 8,785
Joined: Nov 02, 2005
Location: crossing the line

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1614 » by gavran » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:35 am

Kampuchea wrote:When do the Knicks reach out to Pacers for permission to interview Carlisle?

The top 2 I’d look at are still out there, Bryant and Budenholzer.

Here at current odds that go against reports of Bryant not being a top choice.

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=ZScbCOS-e1RwvSq7ABkKLQ

Image

Frank? FRANK? FRANK WHO? FRANK WHO GOD DAMN IT, QUIT T PLAYING GAMES WITH MY HEART, FRANK WHO?

Image
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 6,658
And1: 3,593
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1615 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:55 am

One comment: Thibs defenders are acting as if the Elfrid Payton/pre All-Star version of Julius Randle Knicks still exist. This year’s team had a very talented starting lineup. They don’t need the same things from the coach that they needed five years ago. That earlier version needed to build a culture around a bunch of kids who’d never won anything as pros. This year’s team needed to get the best possible version of the players they have on the roster. That’s the main point. That’s a big reason why Thibs was fired. He was a floor raiser but not the guy who maximizes top end talent to shine its brightest on the floor by Xs and Os ,better rotations, and utilization of star players.

general thibs talk unrelated to coaching search. you can continue to discuss the firing in the firing thread. -JVG
For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2nd Corinthians 4:6
User avatar
BKlutch
RealGM
Posts: 17,497
And1: 15,430
Joined: Jan 11, 2015
Location: A magical land of rainbows and cotton candy trees where the Knicks D gonna F you up
   

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1616 » by BKlutch » Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:30 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Should just migrate the forum to twitter at this point, since all the posting is posting twitter stuff and then shrieking over it like gibbons, which is also the Xitter way.

FIFY. Did you forget Musk renamed his service to celebrate its enshittification?
.

____________________
____________________


:basketball: * We have a Brunson Burner™ * :basketball:
* * Make the Knicks Great Again * *
:basketball: ** GO NY GO NY GO NY GO! ** :basketball:
____________________
____________________

.
.
User avatar
Synciere
General Manager
Posts: 8,452
And1: 5,562
Joined: Jun 08, 2004
     

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1617 » by Synciere » Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:57 am

80 pages huh?

How many different ways can one say we look like we don’t have a plan or know what we’re doing?
VirginiaKnickFan
RealGM
Posts: 12,285
And1: 3,231
Joined: Aug 15, 2005
Location: Virginia

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1618 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:06 pm

SpreeNYK wrote:Dolan is a clown!!! 4 rejects now, 25 Teams left. :lol: :banghead:

[x]
Read on Twitter
[/x]


I've said it many times, firing Thibs is a big mistake!
In the end we get Monty Williams... :lol:


Talk about a clown. Nobody cares what the #1 Knicks Hater Charles Barkley says.
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 24,314
And1: 26,039
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1619 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:14 pm

Synciere wrote:80 pages huh?

How many different ways can one say we look like we don’t have a plan or know what we’re doing?


It's the most bizarre coaching search I can remember. We contacted several teams to ask to speak with coaches under contract. Has this ever happened? This has to be some sort of smoke screen. I can't imagine they are serious with this approach because it makes zero sense.
:beer: RIP mags
User avatar
BKlutch
RealGM
Posts: 17,497
And1: 15,430
Joined: Jan 11, 2015
Location: A magical land of rainbows and cotton candy trees where the Knicks D gonna F you up
   

Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1620 » by BKlutch » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:18 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Synciere wrote:80 pages huh?

How many different ways can one say we look like we don’t have a plan or know what we’re doing?


It's the most bizarre coaching search I can remember. We contacted several teams to ask to speak with coaches under contract. Has this ever happened? This has to be some sort of smoke screen. I can't imagine they are serious with this approach because it makes zero sense.

I believe I've recently read this point of view before.
.

____________________
____________________


:basketball: * We have a Brunson Burner™ * :basketball:
* * Make the Knicks Great Again * *
:basketball: ** GO NY GO NY GO NY GO! ** :basketball:
____________________
____________________

.
.

Return to New York Knicks