KnicksGadfly wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Wes won a power play versus Rose and Thibs finally went. Dolan didn't care until the new guys said 'nah' on Thibs. Now it's find the best out there but this search says the availabke guys aren't good enough so when we end up with one of them it will look like we settled for worse.NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
The players coming into meetings and wanting him gone is the catalyst for him being fired.
If they had waited, people would be bitching about why didn't we do it sooner because there's not much time left before the season. The Knicks are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Because so many people tied their entire credibility to Thibs being our coach and him going nowhere, it needs to be spun as the wrong choice to fire him without having a cloned Red Auerbach waiting to take the job.
If they hire Mike Malone for instance he's been available so if it takes a month of looking for better and we hire him it will always be well we couldnhave done that a month earlier. So clearly we didn't get the giy we wanted. Then it's open season on that coach. Which is why NY isn't that attractove to play in.
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I'm pretty interested in narratives like these. It feels like we've heard a different variation over and over again, and there's a pattern that emerges.
Cast of characters
Leon Rose - usually the good guy, the victim. He has a good rep here (except to Wingo), so we want to avoid having him be the guy to fire Thibs. If we make him look like the victim, then we can preserve the fiction that Thibs was unfairly fired and the smartest guy in the room actually wanted to keep him
James Dolan - the boogeyman. He has the worst rep, so if we can pin the blame on him, then it looks like a really bad decision and the Thibs firing looks bad.
Wes - Actually this is kinda new. But he's tied to Dolan.
Now where the story unravels is the plot. In this story, Thibs is an undeserving victim, even though simply stated, in real life, he deserved to be fired. He was outcoached in the postseason on the court, but he also couldn't even handle the locker room. He did a lot and brought us to where we are, but he hasn't learned anything from his past experiences. So that's where this story falls apart...because whoever fired Thibs, whether it was Dolan, whether it was Wes, whether it was Rose, they did the right thing for this franchise. They're the real heroes of the story...
So, thank you Wes. Thank you Dolan, if it really was both of you.
Now the weird feeling I'm getting is that it seems like people are rooting for the Knicks to fail here, that they hire the worst coach, so they can say, "I told you so." It's not just that weird Bulls fan Susan, too. I don't know if it's just me. It feels that way.
But for me, even if the Knicks hire the wrong guy, which is entirely possible, we still made the right decision in firing Thibs. I'm onboard with that and supportive, and I'm hoping the Knicks hire the right guy, and I'm willing to be patient about it. This is a big decision, but the Knicks made those big decisions before, and they're going to need to keep making those tough decisions.
Agreed. Right decision regardless of a replacement plan ready to go. Right is right. They'll figure it out.
I don't know of any perfect FO. Ours has been very good and has also made some bad decisions. Some bad decisions were a result of Thibs (IMO), like letting go of Obi and Grimes for peanuts. But, overall, it is a good FO that leveraged the talent up.
The FO knows where Thibs fell short and I do not expect them to make the same mistake twice. The safe choice is not always the best choice and I'm reasonably confident this FO will be willing to hire a fresh talent over an older veteran NBA coach. Maybe not, but I think they'll get it right.
