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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1401 » by Gravy » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:23 pm

Barcs wrote:If this year's Knicks make the NBA finals and have a higher win total with virtually the same team, I'll be on the bandwagon, but does anybody actually see this happening?

One side says we have the best team in the league and we will win a championship with a few minor tweaks from any coach besides Thibs.

The other side says that's ridiculous for many reasons..

We cant really prove anything until the games begin, I'll try not to deliberate about the Knicks much until the season starts and focus on the Mets and Giants until then.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1402 » by god shammgod » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:30 pm

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Barcs wrote:If this year's Knicks make the NBA finals and have a higher win total with virtually the same team, I'll be on the bandwagon, but does anybody actually see this happening?

One side says we have the best team in the league and we will win a championship with a few minor tweaks from any coach besides Thibs.

The other side says that's ridiculous for many reasons..

We cant really prove anything until the games begin, I'll try not to deliberate about the Knicks much until the season starts and focus on the Mets and Giants until then.


it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1403 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:57 pm

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Normally I always side with the worker when it comes to workplace malpractice.... but when it comes to my entertainment all ethics fly outta the window.

So im gonna need mikal to ball tf out this year or mp is gonna hear from me nonstop.


He had a good season last year! He went ham in the playoffs! Sign the god damn form already!!


See he was nice during the playoffs. I can admit that buuuuuuut he has a few things going against him. The first being there are too many nerds around here that support him and I cant be associated with said group. Ive got a rep to maintain. And to no fault of his own, but thats not going to stop me from blaming him, he cost too damn much while also fcking up are flexibility. Also his form is ugly af and he is afraid of contact. A real unappealing game. I mean did you enjoy watching him miss pull up transition 3s. Terrible. Or him having a layup and channeling his inner Ben Simmons to take a fade instead. Disgraceful.

Also he got thibs fired. (I dont actually care about this but im toeing the company line so I dont get blue text on my post) see if I can change we all can change :D


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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1404 » by Guano » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:46 am

god shammgod wrote:
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Barcs wrote:If this year's Knicks make the NBA finals and have a higher win total with virtually the same team, I'll be on the bandwagon, but does anybody actually see this happening?

One side says we have the best team in the league and we will win a championship with a few minor tweaks from any coach besides Thibs.

The other side says that's ridiculous for many reasons..

We cant really prove anything until the games begin, I'll try not to deliberate about the Knicks much until the season starts and focus on the Mets and Giants until then.


it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?


Easiest path to the finals and were relying on these guys...
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1405 » by Gravy » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:00 am

god shammgod wrote:
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Barcs wrote:If this year's Knicks make the NBA finals and have a higher win total with virtually the same team, I'll be on the bandwagon, but does anybody actually see this happening?

One side says we have the best team in the league and we will win a championship with a few minor tweaks from any coach besides Thibs.

The other side says that's ridiculous for many reasons..

We cant really prove anything until the games begin, I'll try not to deliberate about the Knicks much until the season starts and focus on the Mets and Giants until then.


it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?

Injuries are a big part of it, they should at least be top 2 with the Cavs. But all we know is how Thibs coached the team, who knows what Mike Brown will do
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1406 » by god shammgod » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:08 am

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Gravy wrote:One side says we have the best team in the league and we will win a championship with a few minor tweaks from any coach besides Thibs.

The other side says that's ridiculous for many reasons..

We cant really prove anything until the games begin, I'll try not to deliberate about the Knicks much until the season starts and focus on the Mets and Giants until then.


it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?

Injuries are a big part of it, they should at least be top 2 with the Cavs. But all we know is how Thibs coached the team, who knows what Mike Brown will do


i think he's a worst coach but the conference is so weak this year it won't matter much
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1407 » by Guano » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:20 am

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it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?

Injuries are a big part of it, they should at least be top 2 with the Cavs. But all we know is how Thibs coached the team, who knows what Mike Brown will do


i think he's a worst coach but the conference is so weak this year it won't matter much


Brown will also have a better bench than thibs did with the addition of yabu instead of precious and Clarkson instead of Cam.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1408 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:41 am

god shammgod wrote:it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?

Atlanta. Maybe Orlando.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1409 » by god shammgod » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:54 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
god shammgod wrote:it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?

Atlanta. Maybe Orlando.


improved but still a tier below i say
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1410 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:44 am

god shammgod wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
god shammgod wrote:it's not even fair to compare. there's a much easier path to the finals this year. 2 of the 4 best teams in the conference last year are not in contention this year due to injury. if the knicks can beat the cavs who is else is there that can really stand in their way ?

Atlanta. Maybe Orlando.


improved but still a tier below i say

Orlando might surprise us I think. But I think the hawks will be pretty mediocre again.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1411 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:55 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Atlanta. Maybe Orlando.


improved but still a tier below i say

Orlando might surprise us I think. But I think the hawks will be pretty mediocre again.

Atlanta has had a very good off season. Of course they're capped by being led by a midget point guard who can't defend. O wai.....
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1412 » by god shammgod » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:02 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
improved but still a tier below i say

Orlando might surprise us I think. But I think the hawks will be pretty mediocre again.

Atlanta has had a very good off season. Of course they're capped by needing led by a midget point guard who can't defend. O wai.....


but also does anyone expect kp to stay healthy all year ? i would believe in them more if he could.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1413 » by god shammgod » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:15 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Atlanta. Maybe Orlando.


improved but still a tier below i say

Orlando might surprise us I think. But I think the hawks will be pretty mediocre again.


bane will help them but there's something about their team makeup that is still clunky to me.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1414 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:31 pm

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improved but still a tier below i say

Orlando might surprise us I think. But I think the hawks will be pretty mediocre again.


bane will help them but there's something about their team makeup that is still clunky to me.

Prob cause Wagner and banchero aren’t reliable shooters from outside. Their success depends heavily on them developing a consistent 3 ball. But I still like them. Suggs getting healthy and picking up Bane should make them a much better team imo.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1415 » by Gravy » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:53 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Orlando might surprise us I think. But I think the hawks will be pretty mediocre again.


bane will help them but there's something about their team makeup that is still clunky to me.

Prob cause Wagner and banchero aren’t reliable shooters from outside. Their success depends heavily on them developing a consistent 3 ball. But I still like them. Suggs getting healthy and picking up Bane should make them a much better team imo.

Don't sleep on the pistons they turned into a tough Thibs type team and we might play too finesse.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1416 » by JayTWill » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:27 pm

I don't know if they will have an easier path than last year. Last season they feasted on the bottom of the league while struggling against the top teams to get 51 wins. In the postseason that had their entire rotation available to play. They barely got by an inexperienced Pistons team missing 2 rotation players with a little help from the refs at the end of game 4 with them swallowing the whistle on an obvious Hart foul. They ran into a broken down Celtics team in round 2 with KP sick and Brown playing on a torn meniscus.

They never faced the top seeded Cavs and eventually lost to a lower seeded Pacers team in the ECF. They didn't have an incredibly tough path in front of them this postseason which is part of the reason I was ok with moving on from Thibs despite making it to the ECF.

Last year it was expected to be a 2 team race between the Knicks and Celtics in the east. The Cavs jumped ahead of them and the Knicks didn't show any real separation between the "2nd tier" teams like the Pistons and Pacers. This year it is expected to be a 2 team between the Knicks and Cavs but I could see one of the younger "2nd tier" teams taking a significant leap in the regular season not quite as big the Cavs had with possibly another playing at a high level by the end of the year like the Pacers were.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1417 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:49 pm

JayTWill wrote:I don't know if they will have an easier path than last year. Last season they feasted on the bottom of the league while struggling against the top teams to get 51 wins. In the postseason that had their entire rotation available to play. They barely got by an inexperienced Pistons team missing 2 rotation players with a little help from the refs at the end of game 4 with them swallowing the whistle on an obvious Hart foul. They ran into a broken down Celtics team in round 2 with KP sick and Brown playing on a torn meniscus.

They never faced the top seeded Cavs and eventually lost to a lower seeded Pacers team in the ECF. They didn't have an incredibly tough path in front of them this postseason which is part of the reason I was ok with moving on from Thibs despite making it to the ECF.

Last year it was expected to be a 2 team race between the Knicks and Celtics in the east. The Cavs jumped ahead of them and the Knicks didn't show any real separation between the "2nd tier" teams like the Pistons and Pacers. This year it is expected to be a 2 team between the Knicks and Cavs but I could see one of the younger "2nd tier" teams taking a significant leap in the regular season not quite as big the Cavs had with possibly another playing at a high level by the end of the year like the Pacers were.


Thibs cost us wins with his coaching. The talent came through and carried us in the playoffs in spite of the coaching. That's why it was such a dog fight with DET. We got lucky against BOS between the injuries and the poor shooting in the first two games. We were out coached by IND.

Here we are fully healthy to start the season so far. Three of the top teams have been dropped by Achilles injuries. The path to the #1 seed is definitely easier as a result. MIL/BOS/IND will be the bottom of the playoffs teams. ATL/DET/ORL should move up. MIA/CHI/TOR/PHI will be play in level teams at best. CLE/NYK should be the top two teams. WAS/CHA/BKN will be the usual bums they are.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1418 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:37 pm

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bane will help them but there's something about their team makeup that is still clunky to me.

Prob cause Wagner and banchero aren’t reliable shooters from outside. Their success depends heavily on them developing a consistent 3 ball. But I still like them. Suggs getting healthy and picking up Bane should make them a much better team imo.

Don't sleep on the pistons they turned into a tough Thibs type team and we might play too finesse.

Ron holland is looking really good for them too in SL and they will be getting Ivey back healthy. Def won’t be sleeping on them again.
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