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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#61 » by R-DAWG » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:19 pm

JayTWill wrote:I wonder what the purpose of all these unguaranteed deals are. I assume it provides a little more financial flexibility. I just can't imagine a bunch of guys that have been in the league for years using a short training camp period to prove themselves for a spot on the roster. Last year they had guys like Shamet, Warren, Okeke and Morris on camp deals. Shamet was the only one that was given a guaranteed contract while Warren and Okeke competed in the G-League all year just for the last roster spot to be given to Tucker.


These guys either can’t get a guaranteed deal elsewhere or would prefer to risk it to play for a contender. It’s likely the former as both Brogdon and Shamet have to know that it’s likely that only one of them makes the roster.
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Post#62 » by F N 11 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:21 pm

koogiking wrote:Is he healthy? I heard he was injured which is why Washington didn't bring him back

This is a legit question mark. However we won’t need him to be playing all that much. Just settle down bench and give Brunson a breather.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#63 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:22 pm

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koogiking wrote:Is he healthy? I heard he was injured which is why Washington didn't bring him back

This is a legit question mark. However we won’t need him to be playing all that much. Just settle down bench and give Brunson a breather.


He wasn't healthy for Wash, but they already traded for CJ and they have a logjam with CJ, Carrington and Tre now.

There's some risk here with Brogdon and his health, but the upside for a minimum non-guaranteed is really high.
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Post#64 » by F N 11 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:25 pm

Healthy Mitch and improving bench. Yabusele looking like him. Only thing I would want is another big guard who is on younger end that can add athleticism and someone who won’t get backed down every play.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#65 » by TheGreenArrow » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:27 pm

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Post#66 » by R-DAWG » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:29 pm

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JayTWill wrote:I wonder what the purpose of all these unguaranteed deals are. I assume it provides a little more financial flexibility. I just can't imagine a bunch of guys that have been in the league for years using a short training camp period to prove themselves for a spot on the roster. Last year they had guys like Shamet, Warren, Okeke and Morris on camp deals. Shamet was the only one that was given a guaranteed contract while Warren and Okeke competed in the G-League all year just for the last roster spot to be given to Tucker.


These guys either can’t get a guaranteed deal elsewhere or would prefer to risk it to play for a contender. It’s likely the former as both Brogdon and Shamet have to know that it’s likely that only one of them makes the roster.


Another option might be - similar to last year - the Knicks delay signing contract for 14 days into the season to create more flexibility. Spotrac has us with about $148k in space below the 2nd apron after signing a rookie scale player to round out the roster. Most of that room, 105k, would be used up if Kolek was salary dumped to create room for Brogdon.

I’m not sure the cap math, but could delaying signings for 14 days create some room to work under the 2nd apron. Or does keeping a non guaranteed on the books for a player with an injury history also create the flexibility.

In hindsight, not playing it out with OG Anunoby last year was a mistake. His market was limited to Philly and once PG signed there NY could have gotten OG on a much better deal, closer to the 37.5per year that Mikal signed for va the 41per year he got. In a 2nd apron world, that 3.5mm difference matters.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#67 » by DaGawd » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:29 pm

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we had too many guards any way. it’s up to dadiet, huk, mccullers and diawara now to pan out in to something
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Post#68 » by Capn'O » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:29 pm

Oh so we get ring chasers now. Most excellent.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#69 » by Wildcat » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:30 pm

JayTWill wrote:I wonder what the purpose of all these unguaranteed deals are. I assume it provides a little more financial flexibility. I just can't imagine a bunch of guys that have been in the league for years using a short training camp period to prove themselves for a spot on the roster. Last year they had guys like Shamet, Warren, Okeke and Morris on camp deals. Shamet was the only one that was given a guaranteed contract while Warren and Okeke competed in the G-League all year just for the last roster spot to be given to Tucker.


It's happening all around the league. And I have to double check, but it's always happening with players that played for a tanking team. That's the other downside of tanking. Shots some players serviceability.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#70 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:31 pm

He can keep Mitch and OG company as they collect DNPs due to injury
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Post#71 » by G_K_F » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:31 pm

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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#72 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:33 pm

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Bye bye Kolek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we had too many guards any way. it’s up to dadiet, mccullers and diawara now to pan out in to something


It's got to be Kolek.

It COULD be Dadiet, but that would be trading one of the few wing height players, unless the Knicks think Diawara can bring what Dadiet does at a reduced cost (be developmental guy)

Considering they added 2 guards (and Matthews fighting Shamet for one of those spots), feels like it's Kolek.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#73 » by ctorres » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:34 pm

Do we need at least some young guys to keep up with OKC, HOU, DET, and others, or are our vets young enough to take them on?

Also, if our guys are balling off the bench, does Clarkson still fit?

Brogdon might be a better player but he is almost 33 and hasn't had a healthy season in 3 years. Him, Deuce, and Hart off the bench is legit.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#74 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:35 pm

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Yep I’m sure they’re calling every team with cap space as we speak. Kolek was always a surprising draft pick with how much the Knicks value pull up shooting.
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Post#75 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:41 pm

YOOOOOOOO!

didn't think we had the money. we not f'n around.

let me read back see if we talked blunston off the ledge. :lol:
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#76 » by Guano » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:43 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
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Bye bye Kolek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we had too many guards any way. it’s up to dadiet, mccullers and diawara now to pan out in to something


It's got to be Kolek.

It COULD be Dadiet, but that would be trading one of the few wing height players, unless the Knicks think Diawara can bring what Dadiet does at a reduced cost (be developmental guy)

Considering they added 2 guards (and Matthews fighting Shamet for one of those spots), feels like it's Kolek.


No longer have to watch kolek or read absurd hype post about how he is the next mark price is nice.
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Re: Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks 

Post#77 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:46 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:YOOOOOOOO!

didn't think we had the money. we not f'n around.

let me read back see if we talked blunston off the ledge. :lol:


ok. i see. non-guaranteed. might be more moves... or might not make it if cooked.

i'm with it. love this man.
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Post#78 » by spree8 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:50 pm

Called it. Hopefully he starts over Hart
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Post#79 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:51 pm

spree8 wrote:Called it. Hopefully he starts over Hart


let's start with him making the team.
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Post#80 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:51 pm

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